Holocaust survivor abused by Israeli security. watch!
au.youtube.com — How dare you question our actions you "self-hating" Jew.
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- glennkachmar, on 07/05/2008, -24/+131If only the Israelis could see what they have become.
- Minarchian, on 07/06/2008, -8/+48You are now a terrorist.....
Bend over!- ConAmoreEFuoco, on 07/07/2008, -2/+4Prepare for justice!
- SuperShlomo, on 07/06/2008, -19/+8If only gentiles could see who the Israelis are
- yosserhughes, on 07/07/2008, -2/+3We do.
- zombies187, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1Cause Peter Griffin can't tell you guys apart from Muslims? I can! You tell by the hats. Right?
- ChileanGoD, on 07/07/2008, -3/+16If by "see" you mean" realize, yeah, i hope they do.. someday.
- Livewire, on 07/07/2008, -9/+45This isn't what they've become. This is how they've been since their creation in 1948:
"I had it 3,400 years ago, now give it back! No I don't care if generations upon generations of people have settled here, it's mine!"- Elranzer, on 07/07/2008, -3/+6Only according to a very old and fictional book did they have it 3,400 years ago.
- Fubarepublic, on 07/07/2008, -3/+2Stupid England for giving them a right to deny Palestinians in Palestine. Damn the Australian Light Horse for Charging into Turkish machine guns and ruining their day.
- Scruffydan, on 07/07/2008, -12/+10This may be a horrible abuse of power, but I get the feeling that we aren't getting the full story here
- OldJesser, on 07/07/2008, -6/+21Yeah, I have a feeling those two guys and the whole state of Israel was cowering in fear from the various bomb threats this old lady called in.
- flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -6/+14The eternal zionist argument... we never know the full story. The part where the old lady gets fingers stuck up her butt just doesn't tell us enough.
- Scruffydan, on 07/07/2008, -7/+8no it doesn't. There are plenty of security situations where cavity searches are perfectly legitimate, but all we have is her side of the story and nothing else.
- vault, on 07/07/2008, -9/+9She wasn't just a random civilian, she's an ISM (intl solidarity movement) protester. http://www.zombietime.com/epstein/ Draw your own conclusion on the ISM if you really believe they're a committed nonviolent movement and don't condone the murder of Israeli soldiers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Solidar ...
They have to lie and deceive the border guards to get into the West Bank. Sometimes they get caught, sometimes they don't. It's not like they just picked a random 80-year-old to strip search for the hell of it.
- pintomp3, on 07/07/2008, -9/+12more importantly, if only americans could see what really goes on, they might put pressure on their elected officials to stop supporting it with our taxpayer dollars and military support. most israelis aren't like this. most israelis and palestinians just want to live in peace. it's the extremists on both sides who are unwilling to share the land who cause these problems. the zionists believe no one else should be able to live there because they treat the bible like a real estate contract. many palestinians are so full of hate at being expelled from their ancestral homes that they refuse to acknowledge that jews have just as much right to live there as they do. as long as the economic and military support goes to the extremists on both sides, there will never be peace.
- warsongs7, on 07/07/2008, -3/+5"Refuse to acknowledge that jews have just as much right to live there as they do"
If you actually try to learn about the history of the Nakbaa (The Great Disaster) then you would discover that just because it was the home of the Jews one and a half thousand years ago doesn't mean it still theirs. Events in history and immigration had reduced there population to negligibility in the Jerusalem and surrounding regions and thus also stripped them of there rights to claim the land as a different country.
if we were to apply their argument elsewhere then all minorities in all the countries would have the right to claim a piece of the existing country as their own and a separatist state. - wpi97, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3If you actually try to learn about the history of Israel, you would discover that during the past 2000 years Jews have lived in the land of Israel continuously. In fact, Jews were a majority in Jerusalem for at least the past 100 years. Likewise, Jews were a majority in the areas allocated for Israel by the UN partition plan.
Unfortunately, the Arab leaders did refuse to acknowledge that Jews have just as much right to live there as they do and launched a series of wars against Israel, which continue to this day.
- warsongs7, on 07/07/2008, -3/+5"Refuse to acknowledge that jews have just as much right to live there as they do"
- darkciti2, on 07/07/2008, -5/+7Holocast?!? Don't we have enough streaming codecs already?!
- jabberwolf, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4If only all these people simply pick up books or old newspapers.
Its like people have decided they wish to be retarded rather then educated.
And that the last 60-100 years of history do not matter...
Lets pretend there was no 1st gulf war, this is all new, and if we leave AGAIN, it will solve everything AGAIN right?!?!?!?!?!
Lets ignore that before 1915 there were NEVER EVER any group of people called Palestinians. EVER!
There was a region of Syria called Palestina, the ottoman empire owned it, then the british empire.
Lets ignore the facts that Palestinians use population and crop data of "Palestine" (but use the entire "BRITISH PALESTINE" which includes all of Jordon.) to spread propaganda.
Hell lets just believe EVERY ***** we are fed and just think wikipedia is always accurate. Lets not look up a DAM ***** FACT and have our minds made up. That will should the world how smart we are on Digg !!
- Minarchian, on 07/06/2008, -8/+48You are now a terrorist.....
- 0Xonox0, on 07/05/2008, -22/+28Is this real? I no big fan of Israel, but this seems a bit hard to believe.
- insurgente, on 07/05/2008, -31/+12Why? Israel is guilty of the greatest genocide in recent history.
Solidarity with the Palestinian people! Long live the heroes of the PFLP!- sgtbutterscotch, on 07/06/2008, -6/+24Selective memory FTL!
- BZKyle, on 07/06/2008, -8/+16You sir, are a moron.
- Tenlow, on 07/07/2008, -4/+22According to the UN - http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/d9d90d845776b7af8 ...
5848 people have died since 2000 in the Israeli - Palestinian conflict.
According to National Geographic -
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/06 ...
up to 500,000 people have died from 2003 to 2006 in Darfur. (even the US State Department's numbers are 10 times higher than the Israeli thing)
Which number is higher? - MWeather, on 07/07/2008, -7/+4Yeah, they're only responsible for the second largest genocide in recent history. Take that!
- vault, on 07/07/2008, -2/+14The Palestinian population grew 30% in the past decade. Some genocide, huh? http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL0 ...
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5Huh, as much as a despise the military actions of Israel that conflict is nowhere near the greatest genocide in recent history. In terms of numbers I assume that would be Rwanda with about 1 million people killed.
- EIderofzion, on 07/07/2008, -2/+6The greatest genocide would be the 80 000 000 Hindu's and Sikhs who were "cleansed", from the same religious intolerance that killed off the Armenians.
- Scruffydan, on 07/07/2008, -16/+15I get the feeling that we aren't getting the full story here
- xrisnothing, on 07/07/2008, -12/+7I know, right. She probably had an AK up her snizz. Terrorist jew beotch.
Moron. - DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -3/+9@xrisnothing
I think you need to learn to not always take things at face value. - flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -6/+6What is that? A tactic you guys get in your talking points e-mail?
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -4/+1What more story do you expect to find? She's a pacifist and the government assumed this equals terrorist and searched her (internally...) at the airport. End of story.
- xrisnothing, on 07/07/2008, -12/+7I know, right. She probably had an AK up her snizz. Terrorist jew beotch.
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -9/+22What? You mean a video where all the contextual information is provided by spliced in text-filled frames, from a group called "the struggle" might not be accurate?
But I really, really want to believe it!!- EIderofzion, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3So basically the group is "Kampf" without the "mein"
- jhartely, on 07/07/2008, -6/+10I have visited Israel 6 times in the last 6 years, and I have often been interrogated for up to an hour at a time. I have also been asked to take my clothes off, during security checks. My only crime is being a non-jewish person travelling to Israel (I am a white European, with a British passport). I am in no way involved in any political aspect of this struggle. They didn't find anything suspicious in my luggage and still I was subjected to this. My reason for visiting Israel was simply to visit my girlfriend.
Once when I was waiting for the plane to take off an elderly Dutch lady sat next to me. She said that she had been interrogated for 2 hours and strip searched. The reason was that she was visiting her daughter, who was working for an aid organisation that helped Palestinian children.- lamjester313, on 07/07/2008, -2/+8Clearly there is no reason for this to happen to you or the Dutch woman, but Israel does it for a reason. As a country that is hated by its Arab neighbors and recently went through a period in which suicide bombings killing innocents were commonplace, Israel needs to take the appropriate security measures to protect itself. In the past Israeli planes have been hijacked, and therefore Israel needs to take necessary precautions. Obviously, you did not warrant a search, but these searches have saved innocent lives in the past and hopefully will in the future.
- munawarali2, on 07/09/2008, -2/+1"Israel needs to take the appropriate security measures to protect itself. "
Right - those anal cavity checks on 60 year old women is critically important!
- insurgente, on 07/05/2008, -31/+12Why? Israel is guilty of the greatest genocide in recent history.
- Fangsinmybeard, on 07/06/2008, -23/+63That is funny, the Israeli's have lost their history and their minds. No respect for the tragedy for the holocaust. Wow. Their heading straight from being an armpit of the world right into being the ***** hole of the world. They have no respect for themselves.
- rlbond86, on 07/07/2008, -14/+5The Israelis are insane but keep in mind they have been under constant threat of extinction since the day they became a country. It's not really their fault they're insane.
- GassyTurd, on 07/07/2008, -4/+3Why does everybody want to kill them? They are a bunch of winy *****.
- rlbond86, on 07/07/2008, -2/+7Considering that Arab countries declared war on them THE DAY they got their independence, they have a good reason to be nuts.
- rlbond86, on 07/07/2008, -14/+5The Israelis are insane but keep in mind they have been under constant threat of extinction since the day they became a country. It's not really their fault they're insane.
- brainboy77, on 07/06/2008, -23/+8and like all other stories that don't fully support israel 100%, this will be buried to oblivion and never reach the front page.
- EIderofzion, on 07/07/2008, -3/+19Are you new to digg?
- rdoger6424, on 07/07/2008, -1/+6no, but you will.
- kaka30, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0talk about the video you a**
- rdoger6424, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1@kaka30 cool, a topic nazi!
- damian7, on 07/07/2008, -18/+57Zionism is destroying Israel from within. The fascist core leaders of Israel are using and abusing an extremist religious belief to further their own domestic and foreign political agendas. Absolutely disgusting.
- cheesehead, on 07/07/2008, -5/+6Zionism is destroying America from within. The fascist core leaders of America are using and abusing an extremist religious belief to further their own domestic and foreign political agendas. Absolutely disgusting.
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3LOL
Zionism is destroying Israel from within? Isn't Zionism the cause for The State of Israel's existence?
That's like saying Manifest Destiny destroyed western-bound expansionism... makes zero sense.- zombies187, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Zionism is the cause for a Jewish state. If a separation isn't made soon, there will be a one state solution. Birth trends between the two groups predict that there will be a majority Palestinian population. Hence, the end of Israel.
3 outcomes are possible:
a. round up the Palestinians Nazi style (who could go through with it?)
b. one state solution with voting rights for all (this would result in a non-Jewish state)
c. two state solution (don't wait for a peace partner; get it done)
Pull ALL settlers out of the west bank. Unilaterally declare a contiguous Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital and the western world is back on the moral high ground. It would not be the safest country in the world but that's the only way it can stay Jewish.
- zombies187, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Zionism is the cause for a Jewish state. If a separation isn't made soon, there will be a one state solution. Birth trends between the two groups predict that there will be a majority Palestinian population. Hence, the end of Israel.
- jabberwolf, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1LOL I love retards like this!
Zionism is the movement for the creation of ISRAEL!
ISRAEL is created already.
Why are you so stupid?
- cheesehead, on 07/07/2008, -5/+6Zionism is destroying America from within. The fascist core leaders of America are using and abusing an extremist religious belief to further their own domestic and foreign political agendas. Absolutely disgusting.
- ExitMoose, on 07/07/2008, -18/+48Please don't put quotes around things that aren't actually a quote from the video.
This should be common sense.- pintomp3, on 07/07/2008, -7/+10i don't think the quotes around self-hating are meant to indicate that it was a quote from the video, but a play on the label applied to any jewish person who doesn't fully support the actions of the israeli government or it's policies.
- flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -4/+3Thank you for pointing that out. That's exactly what it meant.
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -3/+2There are Israeli's that teach at my school that told us in the class room that they deeply disagreed with the way the Second Lebanon War was handled. No one accused them of being self-hating.
Israel isn't an infallible nation just like America or any other.
Why don't you cut through your biases and cut Israel some ***** slack.
- NeoConSlayer, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2I'll post how I please. Thanks for playing.
- pintomp3, on 07/07/2008, -7/+10i don't think the quotes around self-hating are meant to indicate that it was a quote from the video, but a play on the label applied to any jewish person who doesn't fully support the actions of the israeli government or it's policies.
- mohamedmansour, on 07/07/2008, -15/+39Welcome to the everyday life of Palestinian people.
- lamjester313, on 07/07/2008, -2/+5And they did absolutely nothing to warrant security procedures against them, right?
- RDinSB, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1Sure - in 2005 45 israeli citizens were killed by Palestinians. In the same year 255 Palestinians were killed by Israel (with about 993 injured) link here: http://www.black-iris.com/2006/01/02/israel-death- ...
Thats about the same statistic for every year (i.e. - many times more palestinians are killed by israel than the other way around). Since those living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are not part of a state - they are called terrorists. They use bombs strapped to their bodies. Israel uses Tanks, Helicopters, Heavy Artillery and other bombs designed by the top munition makers (USA and others) to take a heavy toll on the Palestinians as cited above. They are not called Terrorists (I guess because they are a state) although they certainly terrorize the ***** out of the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. They are defending themselves by killing many more Palestinians than the Palestinians can kill. Israel takes the best land, the water and puts a wall around the West Bank cutting off Palestinian communities from each-other. They don't let food in, they don't let gas or energy in - they are suffocating the Palestinians. This creates a cycle of killing, where Israel is always winning and losing. Its really sad all around. - lamjester313, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0Rdinsb --
You fail to see the whole picture here. An Arab suicide bomber goes into a crowded marketplace filled with INNOCENT people and blows himself up, killing and injuring many. Israel retaliates with an incursion into Gaza or the West Bank, going door to door, risking the lives of its soldiers in order to kill ONLY the terrorists and no innocent people. The terrorists then boobytrap houses, while hiding behind innocent Palestinians in crowded hospitals. Quite a difference, huh? And yet, Israel still decides to attempt peace, giving away Gaza, repeatedly calling for cease fires, not responding to terrorist attacks... the list goes on. And the Palestinian terrorists take full advantage of this. Israel gives away Gaza, the terrorists fire hundreds of rockets a week into neighboring Israeli towns. Israel calls for a cease fire, and almost immediately afterwards rockets are fired into Israel and 4 people are killed in a terrorist rampage. And then there are instances in which Israeli security fails--- a terrorist walks into a crowded Israeli school, enters the library, and fires 300 rounds into the children sitting there, innocently learning there. Palestinians attack innocents. Israelis attack terrorists. That is the difference.
- RDinSB, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1Sure - in 2005 45 israeli citizens were killed by Palestinians. In the same year 255 Palestinians were killed by Israel (with about 993 injured) link here: http://www.black-iris.com/2006/01/02/israel-death- ...
- mayhemchaos, on 07/07/2008, -7/+1Palestinians are not a real "people"
- lamjester313, on 07/07/2008, -2/+5And they did absolutely nothing to warrant security procedures against them, right?
- xsquirrel378x, on 07/07/2008, -17/+32Israel doesn't care about what happened to the jews during the 40s. They just use the Holocaust for black mail
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -12/+7I challenge you to actually prove your point rather than just vomit a quote from one of the other Israel haters on digg.
- MWeather, on 07/07/2008, -3/+8Well, just look how they treat the survivors...
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -12/+7I challenge you to actually prove your point rather than just vomit a quote from one of the other Israel haters on digg.
- superkendall, on 07/07/2008, -11/+12Pallywood!
- TinternAbbot, on 07/07/2008, -21/+15Israeli security guard != Israel.
- Konformitee, on 07/07/2008, -2/+5Chimpy McFlightsuit != America.
- Enkairi, on 07/07/2008, -3/+1good ole programming syntax
- medfreak, on 07/07/2008, -2/+2Terrorist of Palestinian origin !=Palestinians.
- Arghblarg, on 07/07/2008, -1/+6And, criticizing the current Israeli goverment's policies != anti-semitism.
- blackmesa, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2Well actually, if he was a government employed security guard, then that makes him an agent of the state, and therefore as long as he was following protocol, legally Israeli security guard == Israel.
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -0/+5On that logic a racist cop would thereby make America a racist country.
You != Intelligent || Rational && Should shut the ***** up
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -0/+5On that logic a racist cop would thereby make America a racist country.
- aenegeling, on 07/07/2008, -13/+9What happened to this lady (not to mention what happened to her parents) is appalling, but it does not mean that Israelis as a whole have completely lost the plot. There's always a couple of bad apples that are going to do stupid crap like this to others. These so-called secrity agents should be given swift kicks in their behinds.
- source1984, on 07/07/2008, -1/+8And those soldiers that watched settlers beat a handicapped palestinian man with clubs.. also bad apples? And those soldiers that do what they did to this woman to arab women? more bad apples? And those that shoot guns at civilians? more bad apples? Wow, the whole stinkin tree is spoiled isn't it?
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5Bad apples are usually the result of the government watering the wrong trees.
- ninjasenses, on 07/07/2008, -16/+4The holocaust never happened.
/crazyconspiracytheory- xsquirrel378x, on 07/07/2008, -5/+4gotta love those progressive European laws :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial#Laws ... - blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5I have to admit those holocaust denial penalties are a bit weird, but you have to consider what we've been through. This is one of the tools we have put in place to make sure something like this won't happen again. I fully agree that someone should have the right to study (and contest) historic facts but the truth is most of the people who deny the holocaust are simply neonazis get a better judgment from history for their spiritual fathers.
As such in many European countries, negationism is associated with hate crimes. And it turns out those who got condemne (in France for example) were definitely haters. That said from a principles point of view I don't think I could go to jail for denying slavery. I'd just be and idiot.
- xsquirrel378x, on 07/07/2008, -5/+4gotta love those progressive European laws :)
- flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -13/+5You see? They've got their greedy little fingers in everything. Our butts are next.
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -4/+7How is that relevant at all?
Buried for blatant antisemitism. Don't you dare ***** call it "anti-Zionism".- flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -3/+3I was referring to the authoritarian security officers and their greed to violate every last natural right humans have. I had to work greed into it because I was crossing multiple visual references for a humorous effect. One being fingers in pies, the other with fingers in butts. How dare you bring zionism into this.
- GassyTurd, on 07/07/2008, -5/+1I'm a proud antisemite. These ***** think they are special, they have their own brand name for their discrimination. Nobody likes a crybaby, especially a spoiled one.
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -2/+3Well, flogistan, that was sure a pretty bad choice of words. "Greedy little fingers" is definitely one of the worst antisemitic stereotypes around. Haven't you seen the propaganda from the old days?
If you want to criticize the so-called security-policy of Israel, be my guest, and I'll rejoin you. Just use the right terms.
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -4/+7How is that relevant at all?
- Exilon, on 07/07/2008, -9/+25Israel has gone crazy long ago and the United States' leaders all seem too eager to follow their path.
- RoflCoptah, on 07/07/2008, -14/+21christ, she's just an old lady! terrorist my ass... the israelites are just repeating history
- flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -7/+2Eeeeexxxactly!! Tell the world... oh wait, you can't tell anyone but the internet.
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -4/+6Israelites?
You haven't the slightest ***** idea about Israel at all.- GassyTurd, on 07/07/2008, -3/+4Jewche bag.
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4I have to say I am wary of the word Israelites indeed. Although correct in a biblical context, we're talking about Israeli policy here.
Not sure about how it is elsewhere but in France the only people who use the term israelites (aside from historians) use it as a replacement for jews, not israelis. And frankly, these are not the kind of people I like to hang out with (a.k.a Front National, a.k.a not the most tolerant people around).
I call jews, jews and israelis israelis. As for israelites I haven't heard of them since 423 BCE. - DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2@GassyTurd
(Your name is my rebuttal.) - flogistan, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1At blackjack75. How do you refer to secular jews in the united states without being called an antisemite?
- cam0man, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3yes, the inhabitants of a biblical nation were the ones who abused this woman.
- Pusod, on 07/07/2008, -12/+22"Why are they doing this?" Well, you just crossed the border from Palestinian territory, and in their eyes you could be a Palestinian sympathizer sneaking in something illegal! That area is a war zone and these factions have been going at it for God knows how long! Besides, how would the security forces have known you were a Jewish Holocaust survivor? And what makes you think they'll treat you any better? Sorry to to inconvenience you, but that's how they roll in that part of the world.
- colincornaby, on 07/07/2008, -5/+8Huh? Sneaking in something illegal? How would she be sneaking in something illegal on an OUTBOUND plane?
There is no legitimate reason why she should be subject to such a search in the airport when she is taking a plane out of the country. Honestly, if Israel was so worried about her, they should have hurried her on the plane and been glad to get rid of her.- Pusod, on 07/07/2008, -3/+7sorry, what I meant by illegal was sneaking something out, perhaps top secret government info on microfilm.
- flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -3/+8Aaahhh yes, the old microfilm in the holocaust suvivors butt trick. Works every time... except this one.
- Chicken, on 07/07/2008, -5/+10The fact that they had their name tags turned around and hidden just proves that they were up to something malicious.
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -4/+9The fact?
What fact? Because some old lady said some gaurds (she never *actually* mentioned what nation she was in - all that "context" was provided by spliced in edits) had their tags turned inside out makes it a *fact* now? - tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3there are sooo many organizations in any country that isnt like your typical security guard which has a name tag to be that forthcoming. everseen an fbi agent? what.. no name tag? .. must be malicious stuff going on!
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -4/+9The fact?
- kd7tck, on 07/07/2008, -5/+2It has only been going on for about 100 years. Ever since the Zionists started flooding back demanding their ancient land.
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7Airport security officers allegedly strip searching Holocaust survivors?
- colincornaby, on 07/07/2008, -5/+8Huh? Sneaking in something illegal? How would she be sneaking in something illegal on an OUTBOUND plane?
- colem, on 07/07/2008, -27/+20Thankfully, Digg has plenty of Nazi Youth posters to keep things interesting whenever there is a story about Israel.
Without them, the stories about Israel would be no fun.- Opiate, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4Yeah, them zionists are pretty entertaining.
- waspbr, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7No dude, no nazis here. Though it is shocking to see that the Israeli are becoming nazis themselves. If that does not shock you then there's something seriously wrong with u.
- Pootle4rthur, on 07/07/2008, -0/+8a critic of Israel is no more a Nazi than a critic of the US is a communist.
Such terms mean nothing in the modern world and only show the sorry ignorance of those who use them
- Akraz, on 07/07/2008, -5/+17ill just keep my comments to myself, all ill say is im sick and tired of hearing this inhumane ***** from these countries. how do people live like that...
- toetagger, on 07/07/2008, -9/+15They don't mind genocide per se, as long as they are the ones committing it. Try erecting a memorial to the Palestinians and AIPAC will be up your ass.
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2I definitely a sympathizer of the Palestinian cause but again, genocide isn't the correct term. Israel is occupying territories and oppressing civilians populations. That's bad enough. But it's not genocide.
- toetagger, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1There are many who are close to this that describe it as such, including Israeli human rights groups. Here is a google search: http://preview.tinyurl.com/64ekbb
- zombies187, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1If they're trying to clean the land of a certain kind of person, is that genocide? I realize they haven't rounded ALL of them up at once yet but aren't they really trying to get the Muslims to move? Is rounding them up so different from terrorizing them into moving?
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2I definitely a sympathizer of the Palestinian cause but again, genocide isn't the correct term. Israel is occupying territories and oppressing civilians populations. That's bad enough. But it's not genocide.
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -18/+36Ah I see. The old lady never specifically mentions being in an israeli airport, or ever even identifies what country she was in, with the only context we have being the description that was spliced in. Classic misrepresentation editing technique. Notice how the "quote" in the description doesn't even match anything said in the video! Certainly wouldn't be the first time something like this was released...
Buried unless more context is revealed.- flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -12/+5Why are you arguing for sticking fingers up old holocaust survivors butts onetimer? Do you guys just like that kind of thing?
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -6/+16Well, that certainly was a stretch. I guess it takes a demented individual like yourself to look at one person questioning an edited video and see someone making your pathetic claim.
Of course, we know why you're *really* here:
"God I wish we'd nuke these heebs."
http://www.digg.com/world_news/Israel_must_end_sie ...
""Hey, I love christians. It's the jews that cause all the problems""
http://www.digg.com/world_news/Syria_fires_on_Isra ...
""Rod Carew's mother was not jewish and neither was he and they put him in this list? I thought the month of jew lie had already passed."
http://www.digg.com/baseball/The_18_best_Jewish_ba ...
-flogistan
Take your anti-semitism else where. - flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -11/+2Damn, you are a big fan of mine. Those are from so long ago I barely remember saying them. You're not going to try and put your fingers up my butt for that are you?
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -3/+12Guess you hoped people would have forgotten about your blatant anti-semitism by now, eh?
It's ***** up that digg doesn't ban bigots like you - flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -7/+3Not at all. You're right though. Digg provides a hell of a public service.
- kd7tck, on 07/07/2008, -7/+3So merely bring up something bad about Israel is anti semitic? Wow, I put down The U.S. and Bush every day but that doesn't mean I'm anti American, I love my country and I put it down because I wish to better it.
- flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -7/+2Yes onetimer! Can't you see I'm trying to better you? Pay no attention to this cartoonishly giant hammer I'm hiding behind my back.
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -2/+12kd7tck:
Did you actually read any of the posts I linked to? He mentioned nothing about israel, and everything about his opinions on the "heebs". Of course you saw the words "anti-semitic" and *assumed* I must be talking about critique of israel, right? As if flogistan was the victim or something.
Now go on, delete your post if you still have time. You wouldn't want to look like a jackass, now.
Was that a threat, flogistan? - rz8472, on 07/07/2008, -2/+7flogistan, you forgot about the part about the international banking cartels and the western media being controlled by Jews, and that Mossad secretly caused 9/11. What's the point of being an anti-Semite if you can't even do it correctly?
Amateurs... - flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -7/+2You may check my profile. I assure you I'm a full service attendant.
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -1/+9"What a surprise, another jew who tells the story leaving out wtc 7. I'm surprised."
http://digg.com/comedy/Bill_Maher_Takes_a_Jab_at_t ...
-flogistan
"Well then it's a sure thing since a jew doesn't run human rights watch, ***** face."
http://digg.com/politics/No_charges_over_Israeli_c ...
-flogistan
So kd7tck, what part of these comments was I now wrong to call anti-semitic? - kd7tck, on 07/07/2008, -4/+4I made that first post only after reading his snide remarks about you and asses. After looking carefully now at his history profile, I see he is a racist. Mind you the comments I made where from the prior perspective only and still hold true to that context. This is regardless of the fact that flogistan is racist and rude.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3are you serious? mossad caused 911? where did you get that ignorant load of *****? although discussing it is pointless because you will believe whatever you want to regardless of the lack of any evidence whatsoever. Oh well, its late , better get off to those meetings, the priory of sion is waiting... oh , by the way , i know you probably believe in that ***** so im going to take this opportunity to let you know... suprise... your a dumbass
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -6/+16Well, that certainly was a stretch. I guess it takes a demented individual like yourself to look at one person questioning an edited video and see someone making your pathetic claim.
- kd7tck, on 07/07/2008, -7/+3I wasn't sticking up for flogistan I was merely clarifying my view that the term antisemitism is too widely applied to people who are critical or poke fun at Jews. There is a line that can be crossed, but be careful when applying it. I find the term to be offensive in that it shuts people up and occasionally is used to manipulate truths. Mind you my mother is a Jew, however I still find the nation of Isreal to be very corrupt like the U.S. and Bush are. I very much like to poke fun at both because they have it coming in my opinion.
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -2/+8Well, considering you nested your reply within the sub-comment tree where I accused flogistan of being anti-Semitic, than yes, it reasons that you were sticking up for flogistan.
Admit it man, you simply saw "anti-Semitic" and went into the standard knee-jerk "criticizing israel isn't anti-Semitic" (when I had never claimed it was) mode.
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -2/+8Well, considering you nested your reply within the sub-comment tree where I accused flogistan of being anti-Semitic, than yes, it reasons that you were sticking up for flogistan.
- s2ao, on 07/07/2008, -3/+2Onetimer, I wonder if apply the same scrutiny on stories criticizing Arabs/Muslims/Palestinians?
There is nothing wrong with bias, we all have it, but we should admit it and not pretend we're just being objective. - WileEPeyote, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4Onetimer,
It took all of two minutes for me to find the context:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Epstein
http://www.zombietime.com/epstein/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19 ...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19 ...
Given the information at these sites, I can see why they wouldn't like her.
- flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -12/+5Why are you arguing for sticking fingers up old holocaust survivors butts onetimer? Do you guys just like that kind of thing?
- 2clone, on 07/07/2008, -4/+13The music makes them look extra bad.
dugg for music. - insomniac8400, on 07/07/2008, -11/+7What does this woman being a holocaust survivor have to do with being searched by a countries security agents because she just participated in a protest against that country? If you aren't going to search the people you know have participated in demonstrations with actual terrorists, who are you going to search? Sure she might not be a terrorist and the demonstration she was in was peaceful, but if she thinks all the participants were peaceful non-terrorists, she is an idiot.
- flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -4/+5We get it... everyones a terrorist so you have to stick your fingers up their butts. We've lived in this country for the past seven years. We know where you're taking us. It simply has to be that way.
- insomniac8400, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2She is lucky. If this had been the U.S. they would have just denied her the right to fly. I wouldn't doubt by the time she got back she was added to U.S. no fly lists. It would not surprise me that if Israel sees you as a threat, so does the U.S.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -1/+0maybe because just like on 911 the us was attacked because of their association with israel. no, that would have nothing to do with the fact they may have "suspects" in common. nothing at all.
- flogistan, on 07/07/2008, -4/+5We get it... everyones a terrorist so you have to stick your fingers up their butts. We've lived in this country for the past seven years. We know where you're taking us. It simply has to be that way.
- pintomp3, on 07/07/2008, -8/+13i'm so glad billions of our tax dollars to go fund this.
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -6/+7pintomp3, i've seen your posts and you look like a pretty intelligent guy. But are you really going to dismiss any critical thinking and buy into this video (which I explained the flaws above) simply because it affirms a world-view of yours?
- pintomp3, on 07/07/2008, -5/+5regardless of the context of the video, why should billions of us taxpayer dolllars go to israel every year? there are many videos which get aired in the corporate media that lack context and show an exclusively israeli point of view. even the translations they rely on are provided by MEMRI, which was founded by former IDF members. would the corporate media rely on former iranian national guard members for hebrew translations? i don't see you jumping on those videos to refute them. this video may have it's own bias, but it's hardly a drop in the bucket against the bias in the corporate US media.
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -5/+5So can I assume by you accusing me of "only" refuting the lack of context in this video, and then going off on a tangent about the US media that I never even brought up, that you passively admit that this video proves nothing?
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -2/+3pintop- bias of us media is in support of israel? do you know what sderot is? and the same way we have a responsibility to the human race to stop genocide in darfur, so too the us helps israel to stop the terrorist attacks aimed at killing all jews/israelis and all who sympathize with them. its just preservation of human life. im sorry if you dont support that.
- onetimer, on 07/07/2008, -6/+7pintomp3, i've seen your posts and you look like a pretty intelligent guy. But are you really going to dismiss any critical thinking and buy into this video (which I explained the flaws above) simply because it affirms a world-view of yours?
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -20/+18obviously none of you realize the constant terror which israel lives in. Hamas, a terrorist organization which engages in exploiting impoverished men WOMEN and CHILDREN making them into human bombs- targeting israeli CIVILIANS, was actually voted into power by the people living in gaza. 9/11 was awful wasnt it? imagine that on a regular basis! Thats how israel lives! So yea, israel will take some steps to try as best as possible to protect their innocents. Maybe you missed the news this week? A terrorist took a bull dozer and rampaged through the streets of Jerusalem wounding over 40 people and killing 1. But yea, sure, israel should stand aside and allow this to happen. God forbid they cut the power to gaza, oh no! That would be violating the rights of those nice people who harbor terrorists and voted for the annihilation of anything/anyone jewish. Its easy to say how israel should act when you are not living in their situation. Digg should be ashamed of their unbalanced coverage of the middle east crisis.
- kd7tck, on 07/07/2008, -5/+1this isn't a one sided deal both sides are suffering like you described not just the jews. Both sides are very angry and both wish to commit genocide.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2when have the jews ever taken any action to commit genocide? they are just trying to "mind their own business" and live in peace. in 1948 the un offered the palestinians their own state, in case you never read about it, and they refused it. They wanted everything or nothing. The jews on the other hand accepted the fraction of what israel now is today. It wasnt until the neighboring countries simultaneaously waged war on the fledgling state (in an genocidal effort- to destroy israel completely) that israel actually managed to push back the borders to where they are today, minus gaza. so actually we were defending ourselves and wound up with spoils of war. no provocation was done by israel.
- medfreak, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2Except one side has Nukes, F-16s and the backing of the Super power of the world...
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1all the more so israel is praiseworthy for their restraint! they have all these forces available yet don't use them, even under such awful circumstances! They are too humane to kill out everybody, they just want the attacks to stop.
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Neither party actually wants to commit genocide. Israel has the means to do so. So if they wanted to do it, it'd be done by now. As for the Palestinians, I have heard some of the extremists on their side call for horrible things (just like you'd find individual Israelis saying the darndest things) but that's just a knee-jerk reaction to the current conflict.
- medfreak, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1You apparently don't see the tens of missiles being lobbed into the west bank and Gaza on a daily basis that actually destroy entire homes, but just hear of missiles shot from Gaza which barely deserve the word "missile". Ah well it is not your fault your media is so biased.
Zionists were never minding their own business in 1948. They were commiting systematic terrorism. Irgun was a well known Zionist terrorist organization and its leader Began who at one point was as wanted then as bin laden is today became the prime minister of Israel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bomb ...
- xrisnothing, on 07/07/2008, -4/+2I guess they should have taken a page from the USA and exterminated the resident population before they stole their land to set up their racist ***** country.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2kudos on contributing! just curious how you would resolve constant guerrilla attacks on your people by people whose mission is actually to die, bringing as many of you as possible along with him? perhaps an invite for some tea and krumpets? and i think if anything you should applaud israel for not wiping out the whole city and being done with it! instead they are resorting to more humane methods! and although cavity searches arent the most pleasant of things, its better than your alternative, and is brought about by their own hate and blood thirst! israel never provoked any attack and has never displayed any overly aggressive behavior for the circumstances.
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3I would resolve that easily. Put a solid frontier on the lines defined by Camp David and leave them the ***** alone. I am pretty sure that will definitely limit the amount of bombin they'll do.
- foopirata, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1blackjack75: Let me refer you to the Hamas Charter - they explicitly point that no frontier (border) would stop them - they're out for the eradication of every Jew available.
Now what?
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -0/+01) not all palestinians live in gaza, meaning you are calling for the uprooting of all those palestianians who live elsewhere in the country and their forced relocation to gaza (that doesnt sound so good, oops!) 2) Maybe you dont remember they tried building a wall between the two territories, but that was deemed inhumane so they were forced to tear parts of it down now, so much for that. 3) even from within their own boundries they have been causing terror. every day close to 100 missiles are fired from gaza into the neighboring city sderot. So no matter what you give them as territory and close them off in, whatever is nearby will be at risk. Try again.
- WileEPeyote, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Terror is a lousy excuse for hurting innocent people...no matter what country you live in.
- kd7tck, on 07/07/2008, -5/+1this isn't a one sided deal both sides are suffering like you described not just the jews. Both sides are very angry and both wish to commit genocide.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -11/+17I didnt even mention Sderot! yea , you all know that city next to Gaza, because its been so widely covered on the news. On AVERAGE they have 100 missiles fall on their city per DAY!! 100 missiles a day! From Gaza, the land israel as a gesture of peace and good will! but meanwhile 10s of houses are blown up a day and every few minutes every daylife is interrupted by a siren and a mad dash to the bomb shelter! have any of you ever experienced such a day? no! so before you say how extreme israel is, learn about the conditions they are living in ! and how they are being terrorized daily by guerrilla forces, and due to political pressure have lost so many soldiers lives by sending them door to door to booby trapped houses rather than bombing the whole city to get rid of the terrorists, who mind you, hide in hospitals for cover! using the ill and the innocent for protection... if anything i would say hamas are the ones violating human rights!
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3According to google, these rockets have killed a total of 10 people. I am not condemning these of course but I hardly believe of numbers of a sustained 100 missiles à day. Not to mention usually every time someone launches a rocket our friends from the army just storm into gaza and kill just as many civilians.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -1/+01st of all, if 10 people dying isnt enough, it hasnt stopped hamas from trying. how many have been wounded? and what saves those people from astronomical death toll is the alarms that sound every couple of minutes that tell them to run to the bomb shelters! since you said you have trouble believing the number of missiles a day here it says "As of January 2008, over 8,000 Qassam rockets and more than 2,500 mortar shells have been launched at Sderot." http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?articl ...
And if the army went in to gaza every time there was an attack, there wouldnt be a gaza left. The fact that israel boasts an airforce and nuclear weapons and gaza still exists is a huge credit to them. And when israel dooes strike gaza, they go door to door to booby trapped houses to avoid civilian casualties. If israel didnt deliberately avoid civilian casualties then they would have a much easier job just dropping a bomb and taking care of their problems. instead not only do they not target civilians, they take measures and put their own soldiers at risk to avoid them. Hamas, however, and other organizations such as hesbollah, actually target israeli and jewish civilians alike, As demonstrated by their repeated attacks on restaraunts and schools, public places where civilians (women and children too!) congregate. And palestinian women and children are put under scrutiny as well because they have been exploited by the powers as bomb traffickers. So sometimes with their knowledge, and sometimes without, they are threatening countless lives, and are subject no matter who, to searches. The organizations offer several thousand dollars to those families who have someone carry out a bombing, and are kept in poverty by their own government. They are coerced into this way of thinking and these actions, and not by the israelis. Mordy Zuckerman, editor in chief of us news world report payed 5 million dolars before the evacuation of gaza for the greenhouses that provided most of gaza inhabitants with a means to make a living. This way, those palestinians would have a chance to make better lives for themselves. The Palestinian authorities had them torch it, ensuring the people's dependance on them. They are being oppressed by their own leaders. Arafat had hundreds of millions of dollars donated to his cause, and the people never saw a cent. This past week a man took a bulldozer and rampaged through the streets, heading towards a busy market place, but fortunately was killed before he reached it. Or just a few months ago a gunman emptied 8 clips of an automatic weapon in a school library killing 8 teenagers. These organizations dont play very nicely and should be given due scrutiny for their disgusting guerrilla tactics and disregard for human life. The Israelis should be given credit for their continuous effort on preserving innocent humanlife, no matter what religion they are.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -1/+01st of all, if 10 people dying isnt enough, it hasnt stopped hamas from trying. how many have been wounded? and what saves those people from astronomical death toll is the alarms that sound every couple of minutes that tell them to run to the bomb shelters! since you said you have trouble believing the number of missiles a day here it says "As of January 2008, over 8,000 Qassam rockets and more than 2,500 mortar shells have been launched at Sderot." http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?articl ...
- zombies187, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1100 missiles fell on Sderot today? It should be easy for you to find a source confirming this.
- tazd1010, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0i really do apologize, 100 missiles a day was from lebanon in the summer of 2006. A missile falls on sderot an average of every 2 hours. Regardless of my error, thats way more terror than anybody should have to deal with. These are civilian men women and children. And these Rockets and mortors arent designed to explode to cause damage, instead they are filled with shrapnel such as metal ball bearings which, although may have killed "only 10" people, have caused permanent severe injuries and amputations to many more than that. fyi most Qassams are made out of the metal piping given to gaza to build their plumbing system...
But yea, only 12 rockets a day targeting anybody within range... no biggie.
And for those who will respond about how israel rataliates... A) they do not retaliate for every attack B) they make deliberately planned assaults on known Hammas strongholds and bunkers, in an attempt to minimize civilian casualties, A curtesy not returned to them. What country shouldnt have the right to take out terrorist cells targeting its, and its citizens existence? - zombies187, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1I hear ya chief. I hear ya. So its like 12 a day. More than anyone should have to deal with I agree. Its a little more complicated than simply self-defence however. That stuff matters too.
- tazd1010, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0i really do apologize, 100 missiles a day was from lebanon in the summer of 2006. A missile falls on sderot an average of every 2 hours. Regardless of my error, thats way more terror than anybody should have to deal with. These are civilian men women and children. And these Rockets and mortors arent designed to explode to cause damage, instead they are filled with shrapnel such as metal ball bearings which, although may have killed "only 10" people, have caused permanent severe injuries and amputations to many more than that. fyi most Qassams are made out of the metal piping given to gaza to build their plumbing system...
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3According to google, these rockets have killed a total of 10 people. I am not condemning these of course but I hardly believe of numbers of a sustained 100 missiles à day. Not to mention usually every time someone launches a rocket our friends from the army just storm into gaza and kill just as many civilians.
- SaladCactusKing, on 07/07/2008, -10/+28Edited Footage + Ominous Music + Easy attempt to pull heartstrings by using the holocaust + Source being from a group called "The Struggle" = Propaganda that I won't Digg. Just the facts, please, thanks.
- WileEPeyote, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1Edited Footage: I am pretty sure most footage people watch is edited, what is your point?
Ominous Music: Chosen for the ominous subject matter I suppose. You would have preffered "Dance of the Sugerplum Faeries"?
Pull Heartstrings / Mentioning Holocaust: The whole point of the video is that she is a Jew who escaped the holocaust and is now labeled a terrorist by Jews.
Propaganda: One mans truth is another mans propaganda. Tell you what, turn down the volume and just read the text. There's your facts.
- WileEPeyote, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1Edited Footage: I am pretty sure most footage people watch is edited, what is your point?
- handheldchimp, on 07/07/2008, -8/+3Can you spell I-R-O-N-Y?
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7Obviously you can although that doesn't change the fact you're a tool.
- 9Digits, on 07/07/2008, -13/+11The beauty of this story is that it flushes out all of you anti-Semitics, and thus the block user / report comment features are finally useful.
I love how Digg's building a bridge straight to StormFront. Assholes.- FrenchAnarchy, on 07/07/2008, -4/+10So any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic? Oh please.
- 9Digits, on 07/07/2008, -5/+7No, criticism is alright. But the bulk of the criticism here is just bigotry, versus well-considered points.
That is, unless you think Holocaust denial isn't anti-semitic. - GassyTurd, on 07/07/2008, -2/+2Bigotry? Sounds like the horse ***** that "persecuted" Christians spew.
- jaymzdean, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Notice they always go for the "holocaust denyer!" accusation.
Do they deny we slaughtered 11 million native Americans settling this continent?
Yes, millions of people have been exterminated throughout history because of either ethnic reasons, or because they were living their lives on land someone powerful wanted.
Native Americans, Jews in Germany, and today, Palestinians, ironically, yes, at the hands of the government of Israel. - helpfulcorn, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1That's interesting jaymzdean, because I didn't know Israel had a large extermination program for the Palestinians. They seem to be failing, going on 40 years now for the most part and still haven't been able to flush the majority of them out.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -2/+0jaymzdeam- why is it exactly according to u the israeli government wants to destroy the palestinians? Their land? Is that why in 1948 both the palestinians and jews were offered seperate states side by side, which israel accepted and the palestinians denied, wanting all or nothing? in fact, the land israel agreed to is less that half of what they have today! They were happy with much less! it wasnt until 5 surrounding arab countries attacked simultaneously in an effort to destroy israel (that sounds like genocide for both land AND ethnic reasons) that israel recovered the land it now enjoys. Remind me about a time in history that israel provoked an attack or used unnecessary force against the palestinians either for ethnic or greed based reasons... i sure as hell cant think of any.
- zombies187, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1I guess half of Israeli Jews are anti-Semitic.
- 9Digits, on 07/07/2008, -5/+7No, criticism is alright. But the bulk of the criticism here is just bigotry, versus well-considered points.
- blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4There's a bit of everything around here. I agree this kind of subject does wake up the anti-semites but that doesn't prevent us from having a sound discussion on the matter.
- FrenchAnarchy, on 07/07/2008, -4/+10So any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic? Oh please.
- kd7tck, on 07/07/2008, -6/+7Well when you march into someone else's land and say give it to me or else then you will have problems. Most of that land was Philistine and was seized to give land to Jews because Christians wish to fulfill bible prophecies and bring about the end times. President Bush gave this as one of the reasons to protect Israel.
- diggadigga, on 07/07/2008, -2/+6Full Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4145947943 ...
- Crossmenjeff, on 07/07/2008, -2/+7maybe they said tourist, not terrorist.
- LongBong, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1hahaha!
- DanQuist, on 07/07/2008, -4/+10Maybe you forget that it was the united nations who formed the Israeli state, and that all of Israel's neighboring countries have planned to wipe the country from existence. How about that Palestinians are continually shooting rockets into peaceful communities, or blowing themselves up in marketplaces, or running bulldozers into buses.
But never mind that, we'll take a horrible example of one security guard and apply it to the whole country.- pintomp3, on 07/07/2008, -4/+4just because someone else takes your house and gives it to me doesn't make it right. you seem to ignore the fact that israel shoots missles at buildings and bulldozes homes. they manage to kill 3 palestinians for every israeli killed. there is unjust violence being committed on both sides, let's not try to pretend otherwise.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1where is it you get your information from? when does israel shoot missiles into buildings and bulldoze homes? even when provoked by ... say that very behavior like this past week? in fact they go door to door searching for terrorists and unnecesarily risking soldiers' lives! Where was it reported that 3 palestinians die for every israeli? and may i ask you to clarify... are those palestinians innocent women and children? or are they malicious males who provoked their attack? and are those israelis, perhaps, women and children and civilian men who... were eating in a restaraunt, or riding on bus or driving on a car when blown up or crushed by a bulldozer? I'm just curious... i would love a response!
- helpfulcorn, on 07/07/2008, -1/+0You would love a response, but won't get one from these people. In the end, Israel is the greatest evil in the world (after the US) and Palestine can do no wrong, no matter the circumstances.
- diggadigga, on 07/07/2008, -3/+2Nobody is doing that, all we just want is more oversight into how Israel practices some of its defense strategies.
- badlydrawn69, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2So now that you suddenly remembered that, how about following the huge numbers of UN resolutions, and stop asking the US to veto further more... BTW, if you look at the UN charter closely, you will also find that it is a Right to fight against occupation. Nice example of cherry picking there.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -2/+2so you condone suicide bombing, and missile shooting in public areas TARGETING civilian women and children? Or perhaps the gunman several months ago who opened fire in a school killing 8 teenage boys in a library? regardless of "right to fight" or not.. there are humane ways of fighting. And wouldnt that same clause in the charter grant israel the right to fight the resistance? correct me if im wrong. Then shouldnt israel be granted the right to fight without resistance?
- WileEPeyote, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Now that's hypocritical...
"How about that Palestinians are continually shooting rockets into peaceful communities, or blowing themselves up in marketplaces, or running bulldozers into buses."
"But never mind that, we'll take a horrible example of one security guard and apply it to the whole country."
So, in one sentence you say Palestinians are killing, but in your next you say there is only one bad Isreali security guard...how about both sides are fighting a rediculous religious war. If I they were my kids both countries would be in time out...- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1one is continuous... and the other is a response. By the way, Hamas, a terrorist organization which calls for the destruction of jews and israel, was VOTED into power over gaza. in other words, it expresses the view of the majarity of households. The israeli government however enjoys the company of arabs and christians and jews alike. No call for the destruction of anybody in its charter...
- WileEPeyote, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1"one is continuous... and the other is a response."
I think you misunderstand my reply. You seem to be saying that Palestinians are all bad, but there is just the one bad Isreali security guard.
There are bad people on both side IMHO, but I don't live there. I can only view through the news (mostly pro-Isreal). I know that bombing innocent people (yes, there are innocent Palestinians as well as innocent Isrealis) never resolves anything. - tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0no im not saying all palestinians are bad, what i am pointing out is that a large number (i dont know the percentage of who voted) support hamas, what they stand for, and their actions. The israeli security guard, however unfavorable, is in that type of position in response to the situation in that region. Nowhere does israel provoke attacks except by existing, which seems to piss of alot of people. What they do is retaliate, and no matter how little and tactfully done to avoid civilian casualties, are under constant scrutiny. So occasionally something unpleasant like this may occur, indeed, however it is not done maliciously against anybody, merely in the interest of israels own self preservation. Nobody has been proven safe from palestinian extremist influence, as proven by their repeated use of women and children as bomb traffickers.
- pintomp3, on 07/07/2008, -4/+4just because someone else takes your house and gives it to me doesn't make it right. you seem to ignore the fact that israel shoots missles at buildings and bulldozes homes. they manage to kill 3 palestinians for every israeli killed. there is unjust violence being committed on both sides, let's not try to pretend otherwise.
- despisedIcon, on 07/07/2008, -6/+1since when do women not enjoy being internally searched??
- whiterice0, on 07/07/2008, -8/+17Why only 1:51 minutes of the interview? Odd, but understandable. This story is nothing more than another disgusting example of the anti-Israeli content that's rampant on Digg. Israel, a country surrounded by enemies, that has been attacked over and over, but never instigated a single aggresive action against its enemies. The Digg users voting this propaganda up need an education in history and true human rights violations by the Middle Eastern countries that hate Israel.
- urik88, on 07/07/2008, -4/+8After googling a bit and seeing that indeed this did happen, I have to digg this.
It's true that she could have been transporting important information and collaborating with terrorists, in fact, someone like her would be the perfect human to use by terrorists. But geez, they could have used X-rays or other methods! It's an old woman! - NuclearIsShit, on 07/07/2008, -4/+5Instead of that fear based background music they should have played the duck tales theme. The the whole video would have gained a huge amount of credibility.
- SaladCactusKing, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3Life is like an Intifada
Here in Duckburg
- SaladCactusKing, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3Life is like an Intifada
- LongBong, on 07/07/2008, -9/+11her family died in the holocaust, which is unquestionably tragic,
but she left before ***** went down (thankfully)
that having been said she is NOT a holocaust survivor - - in the same way someone who dodges a bullet is NOT a bullet wound survivor
plus wtf did she expect, Id ***** search the ***** out of the folks who are friendly with those who want to see me dead. when you do suspect things, in suspect parts of the world, be prepared to get treated like a suspect.....- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -2/+3damn straight. cant associate with terrorists and then expect to be welcomed by the ones they hate.
- WileEPeyote, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1"in the same way someone who dodges a bullet is NOT a bullet wound survivor"
How long did it take you to come up with the awkward phrase "bullet wound survivor"?
How about gunfight survivor or shooting survivor...Oh Yeah! That would invalidate your point...sorry...
- Arghblarg, on 07/07/2008, -6/+3Bomb all of Israel and the Middle East with pork rinds until they smarten up. Sick of them both.
- LongBong, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1for real.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2israel is in the middle east comma you idiot
- Arghblarg, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0Fair enough. I knew that, just wanted to be crystal clear that I consider both major players in the region to be equally bloody-handed.
- ricoboy24, on 07/07/2008, -6/+1no one should ever have to be subjected to two genocides.
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Getting strip searched in an airport is the same as GENOCIDE?
I guess maybe your discomfort is equal to the unmerciful slaughter of hundreds of thousands of women in children in Darfur.
Is doing your taxes is tantamount to a World War?
- DrDreyfus, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Getting strip searched in an airport is the same as GENOCIDE?
- zzt711, on 07/07/2008, -9/+5Over the past year, reading, watching media, learning more about Israel, I personally see it as the biggest terrorist state in the middle east. I don't want to put blame on the general populace, although many are still guilty, but FU** the authorities and SCREW the US politicians, and I forgot what you call them both those people in Washington who push political agendas with donations.
Oh yeah, and screw BUSH!- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5please explain how israel is a terrorist state. i know generalizations are fun, but intelligent people like facts. sorry =(
- shayben, on 07/07/2008, -4/+8Mistaken identities happen all the time, just look of the post 9-11 U.S. airport security, Israel actually has one of the best security systems in the world. The fact that she is a holocaust survivor has nothing to do with the story, although as a 3rd generation to a holocaust survivor i sympathize.
The people digging up comments such as "if only israelies could see what they have become" are simply ignorant and blind to the world we live in. I am simply amazed at the amount of anti-Israeli propaganda on digg.- WileEPeyote, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Judging from her history, I doubt it was mistaken identity. Look her up...
- ArmenTamzarian, on 07/07/2008, -2/+8Airport security sucks in general. Remember airport security searched Al Gore shortly after the 2004 elections? I agree, it is a sad day when an elderly woman is searched in such a way, but, at the same time, if you think 70 year old women haven't carried out serious violence against Israeli citizens, then you're quite misinformed.
The concepts of civil liberties as per safety in Israel are much different than in the United States. The Israeli security procedure is generally consistent (historically speaking) and extremely thorough. These circumstances and procedures have arisen organically as 60 years of militantly hostile neighbors have taken their toll on policy. Frankly, I feel we've taken much more extreme steps to ensure our safety in the face of significantly lesser danger. In the United States, we have egregiously curbed our longstanding and cherished civil liberties - suspending habeas corpus, widespread domestic spying, etc. Perhaps that is a much larger crime, especially considering that over 200 years of proud history stand antithetically to our current course of actions. - blackjack75, on 07/07/2008, -2/+7This story doesn't have anything to do with the holocaust (her parents were killed but that's not related to the issue here, she could have been anyone).
This is however an important warning about what is coming towards us if we accept to live in a world divided in two camps where all the others are considered terrorists. She's obviously a pacifist and I find it sad, whatever the country is, that the police is starting to anally search old ladies because they "could be" terrorists. - Carburetor, on 07/07/2008, -4/+7I'm not saying what she's been through is 100% justifiable (we don't know all the details, and people can do mistakes sometimes)
But i can tell you this - whatever the reason was for the internal search, you can see the Israelis
don't do different if the suspect is a Jewish, Muslim or Christian.
The security suspected here, and did what they had to do, there's nothing to do with the holocaust here. - 13ohemian, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4Just the same way the Palestinian are terrorists , anyone standing to their authority is a terrorist , i don't know how can all this go unnoticed its sad how the worlds strongest nation is a supporter of all this themselves.
hmm..where is the world going too? - tr0j, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5I was stripped searched at Tel Aviv airport about 14 years ago. The security folk were polite, though persistent with their questions. All my electronic goods were packed into my case and I was escorted by 2 soldiers to the plane. I actually felt sorry for them having to go through 2 weeks of my unwashed clothes looking for suspicious items. I don't blame them in the least for it.
At least they knew what a harmonica was, unlike the Egyptian border police who got a bit fidgety until I played "Oh Susanna" on it.- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0it comes with living in a war zone. precautions must be taken, and the same practices go on everywhere. searching someone may not be pleasant but when traveling into a country, or out of one, its something you may be subject to, for israels survival. if the circumstances were different over there, then israel wouldnt strip search so frequently. i doubt anybody volunteered to search that woman.
- jussipupu, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1They were just being careful. The old lady could have been carrying a snuke.
- forceuser, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1Snuke?.. That sounds pretty funny.
- tr0j, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0Dugg for nick.
- phillykid162, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2I don't know about you guys, but I distinctly remember being killed by a granny with a grenade launcher in GTA 3.
oops.. - citizen782, on 07/07/2008, -2/+3I wish US political candidates didn't feel some overwhelming requirement to show unrelenting support for Israel "or else". Or else what? You might make a few hyper religious nuts upset? Who cares.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -1/+0im guessing you watch john stewart because you just completely ripped off his material. nice job. and what the politicians support is israel's right to exist the same way, unfortunately you enjoy that right. What are some reasons israel should not have that right? in 1948 the palestinians were offered their own state, even bigger than that of israel, but Arafat turned it down because he wanted all or nothing. only once all 4 surrounding countries + saudi arabia attacked simultaneously did israel recover the territory it has today. if only the palestinians had been agreeable to live in peace side by side with israel. The way the israelis had been.
- citizen782, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1Actually, I don't watch John Stewart and although it may have matched his that was my very own, original thought. You see, I do that, think for myself. Unlike those who sit around listening to others tell them what they should think about things like "Isreals right to exist". Sorry, sounds like Isreals problem to me. Haven't heard one thing about why I should care what happens to Isreal. Do they have some commodity we need or investment dollars that will be a huge loss if we don't get their back? No. All we're confronted with is a Jewish lobby that fear mongers politicians into compliance with their agenda that has little or nothing to do with the US.
- tazd1010, on 07/07/2008, -1/+0im guessing you watch john stewart because you just completely ripped off his material. nice job. and what the politicians support is israel's right to exist the same way, unfortunately you enjoy that right. What are some reasons israel should not have that right? in 1948 the palestinians were offered their own state, even bigger than that of israel, but Arafat turned it down because he wanted all or nothing. only once all 4 surrounding countries + saudi arabia attacked simultaneously did israel recover the territory it has today. if only the palestinians had been agreeable to live in peace side by side with israel. The way the israelis had been.
- EIderofzion, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5I was wondering why the digg Islamists were so silent about the muslim in the front end loader killing people in the street yelling Allah Akhubar!!!!
Now we know, they were scanning the net for a video they could edit. Has anyone noticed the difference in reactions to the two stories? -
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