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How was a Cell Phone Smuggled into Saddam's Exucation Site?

electioncentral.tpmcafe.com — By now, millions of people have viewed the hanging of Saddam Hussein. Not just Al Iraqiya's pornographic tease of America's old pit bull just prior to his necktie party. No, I mean millions have watched Saddam actually hang.

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  • Buddhist, on 10/12/2007, -4/+55What, do you think they had metal detectors and bouncers padding down people to make sure they didn't bring anything into the execution?
    • bittermang, on 10/12/2007, -9/+58Yes, god forbid they do something like try and kill him. We don't want those god damn terrorists killing Saddam.
    • shoopdawhoop, on 10/12/2007, -304/+22Where's my ***** Steve Irwin execution footage?
    • fireball74, on 10/12/2007, -27/+48@shoopdawhoop:
      I logged in just to digg your ass down. Show some respect for a good man.

      As far as Saddam is concerned, I hope they bury him in an unmarked grave somewhere. My other option would be to stuff him, and use him as a dartboard.
    • sinner0423, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18eh, there could've been some whack job there who decided to go after his executioners, a security sweep should've been done. suicide bombers & such, or perhaps even a rescue attempt could've gone down, you never know.
    • sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -8/+86I'm holding out for the director's cut, I hear it has an alternate ending.
    • bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -24/+43And ah... remind us again?
      http://www.mattglover.com/Images/Cartoons/Saddam_Hangs.gif

      Watching that scene makes me as sick as hearing about Abu Ghraib (Saddams atrocities there, or Bush's Atrocities - take your pick)

      We'll wake up to this pathetic game sooner or later and stop being pawns in this stupid ***** game. We hate saddam, so we love bush? We hate murder, so we love execution? This is the year I hope to see us graduate from this pendulum of manipulation from stupid old men...
      http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-4869921495750796405&q=grey+murder
    • Pimpalicious316, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2edit: my mistake, didn't realize that site linked directly to it. digg down :)
    • hcore, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Thousands of US Soldier died in Iraq. Thousands of people died in Iraq too. And we are happy that we get rid of Saddam's dead body.
      That makes world a better place.(!)
    • alephsmith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26"metal detectors and bouncers padding down people to make sure they didn't bring anything in"

      This is Iraq. Not an L.A. High School.
    • madchemst, on 10/12/2007, -14/+6shoopdawhoop: ***** off and die... slowly.
    • PLUMCRAZY, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7They got the recording because the RIAA wasn't at the door confiscating cell phones.

      If this were a Hollywood hanging, you would be damn sure they wouldn't have gotten the footage.
    • Jarodd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7You guys know there are tons of other dictators and butchers roaming free still ?
    • sirloin, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Yeah i love the indignation, as if sadam was hitler. I bet most of thesepeople cant tell you about the situation surrounding his crimes. Sure an evil man but it is sick to cheer anyone is dead. DO anyone here know the leader of dafur?
      As for the metal detectors, yeah they do that here, the court was in the green zone and completele controlled by american forces. SO yeah i kinda expect they to start acting like a country that believes in the rule of law and not one that is just pretending. The people will the cell cams made no attempt to hide. It makes it look like this country isnt in control of crap.

      And if saddam was soooo obviously evil, whay the sham trial, why change the judge 3 times, why isnt he in the hague like miloshivich? Oh yeah bush scared of war crimes pulled our name from the world court. I do think sadam was evil, but his trail was a load of crap. He was even banned of saying he got the gas froiom the americans. Banned.
    • axel2k, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9WTF is "exucation?"
    • axel2k, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Ok, I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, but a few things bother me about this whole thing.

      1. During the first gulf war, there was constant news coverage about Saddam being surrounded by "lookalikes," that often performed political function for him. They were for his protection in case of an assassination attempt. I've heard no on suggest, however, that it's possible that one of these "lookalikes" took the place of Saddam in being found, captured, and executed. How do they know they got the right guy?

      2. I have seen the execution video from the cell phone. First, the freaking noose is humongous. Who tied that thing? Second, why is it, when the dropped the floor from beneath Hussein, the guy holding the phone immediately starts shaking around like crazy, the video goes black, and the next view is of the dictator's dead body? The video DOES NOT show an execution, it shows the preceding events and the aftermath. I remember seeing the Nick Berg execution video, and it suffers from a similar "hey let's grab the camera, shake around erratically during the most important part of this filming" phenomenon.

      Not trying to offer conspiracy theories or anything of that nature; it's just odd to me that the above hasn't been considered by most people.
    • Detritus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1oops replied in the wrong comment...
    • J03L, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@axel2k
      One fact and two theories for ya. :)
      1. We know it was him because there was DNA testing done against his son, who was previously dispatched by US forces.
      2. The noose was large because of the circumference/thickness of the rope. Smaller rope=smaller noose - Larger rope=larger noose. The video is shaky because it was taken by a camera phone, and it looks to me as if the videographer was trying to hide it from time to time as to not get noticed. At the very end, it sounds like he is caught and is admonished by a bystander. (I don't speak the language, just an opinion) Also, it may be shaky due to the party atmosphere in the room. You can clearly hear cheers and jeers throughout the video. You can see many people with their hands in the air in cheer when the act is done.
      Just my two cents.
    • ckedge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@J03L: They don't actually tie nooses with the rope itself now days. It's a cylindrical tube with big fake rope wound around it to look like a noose. The real rope is merely passed down the center of the tube, forms a loop, and comes back to attach to the cylinder. It's a more reliable mechanism with the rope less likely to "jamb" or screw up. The rope they use is pretty big and thick too, because it's got to be able to withstand a pretty big jarring jerk - repeatedly - and not break - and it's less likely to stretch momentarily and "soften" the sudden impact, the latter being what they're really looking for.
  • ldavid, on 10/12/2007, -47/+23I find it quite disgusting how anybody would want to actually film the execution...its just sick.
    • borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -22/+9why? If you were an Iraqi citizen and strongly believe he deserved it, there is not reason why you shouldn't. Especially if you know that you would be the only one.
    • spoooon, on 10/12/2007, -7/+49It may be "sick" but it's also a major part of history and something that needed to be documented in some way..
    • exsst, on 10/12/2007, -30/+10i totally ***** agree with this guy. it is ***** sick and you all guys are playing in this sick world and wanking over him being hanged you ***** animals.
    • 2shae, on 10/12/2007, -22/+5Fag!
      People are just curious to see what it is like.
      It's not like your seeing someone get killed like in Saw III or something
    • goffy59, on 10/12/2007, -23/+13shame on those who dugg you down, it just shows how foul those people are. Why would anyone want to watch someones neck break. If there is such a thing, I hope they goto hell.
    • bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23Well I'm glad they filmed it because it allows the world to see what an utterly barbaric policy it is...
    • OmegaNine, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Its not sick, like he said, its a big deal. And its the first time an everyday person could document it. I hate to make him a marrter, but I think this is the first time the people will look back and say "this is the first person put to death that we can document without government interference. Not to say that the crappy 5 frames a sec camera phone couldn't be fake.

      But for the worlds sake I hope its not. I would like to see better proof that he dead. And for now, this is what we get, people, freelance reporters, showing us what happened.
    • ldavid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Funny how many different opinions there are for this...

      I just still can't bring myself to watch people dieing (in real life)...I just find it barbaric.
    • malonesm, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Hanging may seem like a crude and barbaric way of execution, but compared to many other developing nations, it is quit humane; also mind you, Washington state's primary method of execution is still hanging (lethal injection is listed as an alternative method).

      As far as video taping the event, it was something that simply had to be done. The citizens of Iraq questioned whether or not Saddam was actually captured when we pulled him out of the fox hole, and they will have always questioned whether or not he was actually executed had some proof not been made available. Alternatively, the execution could have been held in a public arena, where Saddam's death could have been made a spectacle for all of the citizens to see with their own eyes... either way, the people of Iraq can finally know that he's gone.
    • zybch, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1exsst, have you yourself watched the video??
    • Detritus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16I think it is far more grotesque of us, as a culture, to on the one hand encourage and use execution, but on the other abstain from viewing that which we condone. How is it too sick to watch, but not too sick to do?

      I'm in favor of capitol punishment, but I don't want to lie to myself about what that really means. Thanks to smuggled videos we now know that not even lethal injection is some kind of rosy humane method, it is a violent and painful murder that we collectively perpetrate because we feel it is just. In fact, after seeing this video I am inclined to suggest that hanging is more humane than lethal injection now that I have seen both methods. This is something that my husband and I just discussed and are amazed by, it seems counter intuitive but the proof is in the videos. How else would I, as an informed citizen, know which method of capitol punishment would most suit my aesthetic and ethics if I were not to witness the available options? I would almost suggest that every adult of voting age should be encouraged (not required) to watch all executions that that someone is responsible for as a member of our collective. If you are an American or Brit, no matter how you feel about the war, you are in part responsible for this hanging. Hiding your head in the sand now does not excuse your participation.

      If you watch it and find that it is a horrible and ugly thing you must then decide if you feel it is also necessary and balance these feelings. If you do not watch you are simply willing to ignorance.
    • orientis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"How else would I, as an informed citizen, know which method of capitol punishment would most suit my aesthetic and ethics if I were not to witness the available options?"

      Ah, the luxury of choice.

      "Dahling you must try Ol' Sparky in Texas, it's a bit mainstream you know but it just HAS to be done. Once you've got a taste for it you can try branching out, for instance I hear New York has a particularly agonising lethal injection program. Personally I have empathy and love for my fellow man, so hanging is the state-sanctioned-murder method that fits with my aesthetics."

      ...when, oh when, will we get our thumbs?
    • williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Detritus got it right.

      First of all, why is it "shocking" that a witness recorded the event. I don't get that at all. The more functions of government that get recorded, the better.

      Which brings us to the fact that giving governments the power to ceremonially kill someone is something everyone should see in order to make up their own minds about whether that is barbarous and should be outside the scope of government power.
    • PLUMCRAZY, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Sometimes I start to regret the loss of Americas balls.

      They used to do this sort of thing in the town square. Today people act like they have sand in their vagina's because someone video taped it. What is this country coming to?

      .
    • vampares, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@spoooon

      Why does it need to be documented? There were many witnesses. The fact that he is dead does not comfort the Shia. They would have to put him in a glass case and even then there would be rumors that he's wandering the streets at night.
    • almightystoph, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@Detritus

      How am I responsible for this? I didn't vote for Bush and I certainly don't agree with the war in Iraq. I certainly agree that Saddam was an evil person and needed to be removed from power. By us using supposed WMD's as an excuse? You decide.

      Please don't label every American as being a part of this execution when many may not agree with it.

      My $.02
    • Detritus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@almightystoph: Did you lead the revolution to depose your own imperialist regime? Did you attempt a coup? No, you sat around and felt comfy in your middle-class lifestyle and just worried about paying for the lease on your car. I don't care who you voted for, your inaction is what really allows the atrocity to continue.

      Don't get me wrong, I'm an American, too. We share a lot of blood on our hands.
    • Cerebral, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Detritus
      Lethal Injection is the most "humane" way of putting a person down. Hanging is very brutal. The whole process takes about 9 minutes for your body to die. Which is another reason why this video is very strange because it is only ~2:30 long? I realize that the "real" footage is ~15:00 long which should be about right for everything that was presented in this video along with someone pronouncing him dead. /tangent

      Why you would think that lethal injection (essentially chemically invoking a heart attack/explosion similar to how people put their pets down) is more brutal than a hanging is beyond me. People would save more money when they had to put animals down if they just threw a rope over a tree but that is just my $0.02
  • Universal, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7"I bet you couldn't smuggle a gun into that execution chamber. But apparently you could smuggle a cell phone with a video camera into those gallows, and stand out in plain sight 15 feet from the platform and shoot that video of this "top secret event" to your heart's desire."

    Um, a camera phone isn't the same thing as a gun, although they do shoot. Some better than others.
    • alephsmith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm pretty sure every single person in that room had a gun.

      Except Saddam of course.
  • UPSLynx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+135"How was a Cell Phone Smuggled into Saddam's Exucation Site?"

    Easy. They used a device called a "pocket"
    • flowergirl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37Sadam's Execution Deliberately Leaked, as an allegedly hidden video..
    • shoopdawhoop, on 10/12/2007, -25/+3Specifically a brown and stinky pocket.
    • creep303, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Yeah, get a real Educution, man!
    • phizzpop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For more information about how it was smuggled, check out the following link. This was the first blog on the Internet to post the video on Saturday afternoon, and then everyone else picked up the story.

      This is the only ORIGINAL, unedited video in its entirety. The website says they had a source inside Iraq who made the video avialable via the Internet just hours after the execution. While not willing to say how they got it and from who, the cell phone video was definitely SMUGGLED in and out. Just watch the original tape and you can tell:
      http://www.indierockcafe.com/2006/12/cell-phone-video-hanging-of-saddam.html
  • monergism, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6"No, I mean millions"

    Thanks for the clarification. I thought I misread your "millions of people have viewed the hanging of Saddam Hussein".
  • KnightMareInc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4the people who trialed and hanged him wanted the video released.
    • PacoDG, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4From the article:

      "It's hard to know who is directing this internet traffic, but it can be concluded there were elements within America's government and/or military, working in concert with Iraq's current scarecrow power-holders, who wanted as many people as possible in the world to see Saddam hang."

      I dont think the blog writer understands that anyone can release any video (now in days), however, there is that one part that the article ignores, is that obviously, by the amount of views the video has, people want to see it. Hell, I watched it, I have seen other videos of deaths from Ogrish (now LiveLeak), and it is a refreshing thing to see a death happen to someone whom actually deserved it.
  • vassili151, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18I'm surprised there weren't more cameras. I was expecting to see more than one perspective from the crowd.
    • shoopdawhoop, on 10/12/2007, -4/+41Wait for the Special Edition, with dictator's commentary.
    • thefirstenemy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Disc 2 has a blooper reel.
    • alephsmith, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Get the Bluray version and you can participate in the death of two prime evils.
  • lathesand, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Psy-ops, man. Psy-ops.
  • mackintosh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Look at it this way...This will allow us to avoid having to deal with 1001 conspiracy theories on how they didn't hang him. Like the 1001 theories on how that was one of his body doubles was not enough.
    • kaemaril, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Not really. Conspiracy fans can always claim it was yet another double.

      Saddam had more doubles than Nick Fury, apparently :)
    • sterken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Instead we'll have absurd conspiracy theories as to how a cell phone made its way into the chamber...
    • Darmichar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Just playing Devil's advocate here but, I believe this video will only fuel the tinfoil hat crowd.
      The video is of poor quality.
      It moves off of Saddam too many times.
      There is a long time the camera isn't on Saddam right before the trap door opens.
      After he drops, they only show a close up of his face.

      I'm sure a true tin-hatter could do a better job than me at pointing out discrepancies, I could only stomach watching the video once.
  • DiggSoup, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27Only few know that the execution was clearly a hoax, and Saddam is quite busy at the moment to break a world record.

    Check out this secret footage just released:

    http://nosoup.net/nosoup4u/b3ta/saddamsbouncingrecord.html

    (and yes, I will burn in hell)
    • KiloCharley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10okay you sick bastard, i laughed my ass off, are you happy now?

      no really , i did !
  • TheFunny, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Who cares? What ***** diffrence does it make? The person who recorded it didn't force million of people ot watch it. Saddam being killed was a VERY big deal, I would be surprised if a better copy of him hanging didn't hit the net soon.

    I just don't understand why so many people give a ***** if someone snuck a camera in. It is pretty sick that some of the same people that siad "Well Nick Berg shouldn't have been there, he knew the risks" are the same people offended that are upset that a video of Saddam hanging.
    • shoopdawhoop, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Nick Berg SHOULDN'T have been there. And he DID know the risks.
    • filmbandit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8so who is it saying that (show me)?

      hussein's death is no less as much of a barbaric act as berg's death. i don't give ***** how many people hussein killed. he should have been locked up forever instead of becoming a martyr-answer that will provoke more blood vengeance. that the kind of stupidity that goes on and on and on forever. read a history book. this violent act will perpetuate more violence.
    • Zzyw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Gotta love them passionately indifferent types.
    • govsucks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6FilmBandit, what is wrong with you?
      "read a history book. this violent act will perpetuate more violence"

      If this were true why has any war stopped? According to your logic (or lack of it) each act of violence would simply bring about another. This would mean that a battle started by cavemen would still be going on today. Because each act of retaliation would simply start another loop. yeah, tell it to the Spanish, the people who thought "liberal" amounts of talk would stop Hitlers threat of violence and came to a treaty with him. Then the Spanish were such good sports that they decided to help Hitler define his Blitzkrieg terminology.

      OK, I've read a few history books, I seem to recall acts of violence putting a complete stop to several wars. One comes to mind right away, the incredible act of violence that was done when we dropped a atomic weapon on two Japanese cities brought a immediate end to the conflict between America and Japan in a matter of hours, and we have remained at peace with that nation for over 50 years now. Is that not in the history books?

      Its amazing to me that somehow people have had such a sheltered life and have become so liberal that they don't understand the simple logic of why a schoolyard bully only takes lunch money from those who are cowards and won't stand up to him. He leaves the people alone that smacked him in the nose and defended themselves.

      Violence is a natural part of our world. To think that those who would bring violence against us without remorse will be stopped by our cries for peace is just freakin stupid and well, very leftist. People like you are just lambs ready to be slaughtered by people like Saddam. People like the U.S. marines are the ones that keep your plump sheltered rear from being eaten. Blindly hopping through the world (US or some other semi-free nation/ militarily protected) thinking that people like Saddam will respect your right to "free speech". I got news for you, if you were not protected(with violence) by the US military, I doubt he'd have much respect for the right to speak freely or exist for that matter. But now he'll never have the chance, why, because men with bigger nuts and tougher stomachs than you put a end to the problem. If it wasn't for men like that people like Saddam would rule the world and people like you would shut the heck up and suffer or die. So have some appreciation for violence and the men that endure it to protect you ingrate.

      OH, BTW, I ASSURE you that Saddam died in a FAR FAR FAR less barbaric way than Berg did and its saps like you that have no appreciation for that that truley should have been in Bergs place. And that goes for the rest of you losers who hide behind peace when it really comes down to you being cowardly and not standing up for the freedoms you always cry about being taken away by that moronic democrat wannabe George Bush. I got news for you, if GW wanted your freedoms, he would have taken them already. What was he savin it up for that last two years or the democrat house? Jeez!
    • orientis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Violence is a natural part of our world. To think that those who would bring violence against us without remorse will be stopped by our cries for peace is just freakin stupid and well, very B'aathist. People like you are just lambs ready to be slaughtered by people like the Great Satan Bush. People like Al Qaeda are the ones that keep your plump sheltered rear from being eaten!

      Buy my camel! Now bow and pray to my crotch!

      Some times I can hear reality's laugh track. There's lots of hooting.
  • hatem, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4Saddam might be a dictator and should be judged like any other criminal, but those who sentenced him in that way are just sick animals, or if you like that's the new dictators. Happy new year !
    • foxymcfox, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5How did they judge him that made them animals. Furthermore, who are you to make the call as to what is a reasonable punishment. In closing: You're wrong.
    • gostars, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Sentenced him in that way? While "hanging" may remind your of 1960's era lynchings where blacks were raised by their necks until they strangulated, Saddam's hanging was completely different - by design. By many accounts, their method of hanging is even more humane than lethal injection (provided the hangee agrees to wear a hood). Saddam free-falled several feet and had his neck instantly broken. He never felt a thing. And his thousands of victims should have had it this easy.
    • redfox2600, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What the hood for? Hanging just break the neck a hood is not needed.
  • ekleinunt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Someone has to say it:

    Exucation? Come on... take a little time, its your headline for Pete's sake.
    • shoopdawhoop, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28Submitter needs a bit more edecution
  • foxymcfox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Are they teaching journalists how to title their articles anymore. This had less to do with cell phones and more to do with "Let's find another excuse to talk about how much we hate Bush, so let's blame stuff on him because we can." Regardless, or your affiliation I hope you at least see through the article to what it really is; a thinly veiled excuse for yet another anti-Bush Political cluster *****. So, for everyone out there, let me put it all in perspective for you...

    For the Democrats: You only have to put up with Bush for 2 more years.

    For the Republicans: You get two more whole years of Bush!

    For the Constitutionalists: "And the Lord God sent Bush for another 2 years"

    For the Libertarians: Just avoid this whole name-calling mess, and keep doin' what you're doing. You're A-OK in my book.
    • filmbandit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0thanks for setting me straight i had no idea ;)
    • dlbear, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1People come here to bash Bush because if they did it almost anywhere else they might end up on a Watch List.
  • exsst, on 10/12/2007, -17/+2it is ***** sick that anyone wants to see this.. and you all guys are playing in this sick world and wanking over him being hanged you ***** animals.
    • sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Every time you say ***** God kills a camel.
    • EbowUK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10And every time you say wank a baby seal cries.
    • wtf00, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3oh cry me a ***** river... I'm sick of my country(usa) treating us like bunch babies because someone got hang.. so people like you bitch and whine because they hang Saddam(bush, bin goat should have been beside him ) on tv, so lets censor it because babies in U.S won't feel sick...
  • YellowStar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Sic transit gloria mundi. Not for Saddam, of course, but for what we've become.
    • filmbandit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1for you non-latin mongers (via wiki):
      Traditionally, Papal coronations are thrice interrupted by a monk (some say barefoot) holding a pole to which is affixed a burning piece of flax. After it finishes burning, the monk announces, "Pater sancte, sic transit gloria mundi." This is meant to remind the Pope that, despite the grandeur of the ceremony and the long history of the office, he is a mortal man.

      Similarly, the slave holding the crown in a Roman triumph would whisper "Memento mori," meaning "Remember that you must die." As reiterated in the movie Patton, it was said in English as "All glory is fleeting." Frank Richards, author of "The Magnet" often construed the Latin as "Thus are the mighty fallen."
  • Ladon, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5It's spelled 'execution', not 'exucation'.

    Just thought I'd point that out :)
    • salinemist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What they should do is build some kind of spell check into the posting mechanism....
  • digitalbrutha, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3IT'S ***** EXECUTION
  • ahuxley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As above
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSYOP
    Makes civil war more fun. A stirred up, fragmented Iraq is a win for some.
  • ck01, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Never mind the risk of suicide bombers who would be willing to take advantage of a great opportunity to plant plastic explosives into their cell phones. This just demonstrates more stupidity from the coalition of the willing.
    • justinwalden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Uh, what?

      A) The coalition of the willing had nothing to do with this.
      B) Why would a suicide terrorist: 1) be invited 2) carry out a suicide attack? Suicide bombings are for coercion, not just because you're pissed off.
  • filmbandit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4this all noise -- the conversation should be about the barbarism of capital punishment.

    saddam should have paid well for his misdeeds -- though my idea is that he would sit in a jail for the rest of his life.

    NOBODY is talking about the primitive barbarism of blood vengeance -- all it does is perpetuate itself. nobody seems to want to have that conversation.

  • Ndel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0propagated media for conspiracy theorists
    of course they want his execution publicized
  • broomett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0all you have to do is look at the right side of this website to know just how ridiculous the authors are.
  • blueeagle2007, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Ill tell ya what? The Same Sort of people that support killing people, for any reason, do this: http://digg.com/politics/My_Fight_With_Red_Neck_Americans

  • filmbandit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i love this:

    "Shop and compare great deals on sadam hanging video and other related products at MonsterMarketplace.
    monstermarketplace.com"
    • KiloCharley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1okay , "filmbandit" just a question, did you watch it?

      need i emphasize you?
  • ohronan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1You are all morons for believing Saddam's execution meant nothing.

    Look to Nostradamus CII, Q62
    Mabus (AKA Saddam) will soon die, then will come, A horrible undoing of man and beast, We will see vengeance at once, One hundred powers, thirst, famine, when passes the comet.

    http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id1527.html

    In short the H5N1 will claim 1/10th of the population, and the true Anti-Christ, GW, was responsible for killing Mabus.
  • tribalsun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5All I got from the article was some leftist pissed off about Saddam's death & using it to launch into a diatribe about the current administration. Eh, so what a cell phone was "smuggled" in. How the hell does the author know that cell phones were "banned"? Be glad this ***** was executed, I am!
  • gostars, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1rigghhhtt....Its Bush's fault!

    Bury.
  • exsst, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1edit
  • blaze03, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5It's really fascinating to see the "youtubification" of historical events like this almost as it happens today. Something like this wouldn't have happened even a year or two ago. Just more proof that some of today's most important journalists are the people.
  • getdrunkanscrew, on 10/12/2007, -10/+0se3e the true actual saddam hanging video not one of these fakes

    http://www.searchjerk.com/cgi-bin/smartsearch/smartsearch.cgi?keywords=sadam+hanging+video&search=Search
    • KiloCharley, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1first amendment, and my conscience tells me not to digg you down, ...so......
    • joshman5k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Nobody cares about your ***** serach engine,
      so stop posting it.
  • jdepp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2WMD alleged: Ability to strike Europe within 45 minutes of giving the order

    UK MoD employee Dr David Kelley told a BBC reporter that the case for war was "sexed up"
    by the government. Set to be tried for breaking the Official Secrets Act, he was found dead in the woods.

    WMD found: Absolutely nothing. Zip zero, Ziltch
    • davecor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4No WMDs were found....

      But SOMEONE killed 5000 Kurds with nerve gas - I'd call that a WMD.

      Everyone seems to forget that the weapons inspectors got kicked out of Iraq for about 6 years (Thanks Clinton). We find it surprising that nothing was found after 6 years?

      It's like a cop comes to a crack house to search for drugs.... "Can you come back in about 6 hours officer? Thanks"
      What a surprise no drugs are found!
    • jerbaker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1They were kicked out after it was discovered that they weren't just verifying compliance with UN agreements, but performing intelligence operations for the US. They should have just shot them instead.
  • jdepp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think it's interesting what the people who executed Saddam were saying: From
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6220829.stm#map
    note the Shia prayer for the return of the prophet.

    [Saddam] Oh God.

    [Voices] May God's blessings be upon Muhammad and his household.

    [Voices] And may God hasten their appearance and curse their enemies.

    [Voices] Moqtada [Al-Sadr]...Moqtada...Moqtada.

    [Saddam] Do you consider this bravery?

    [Voice] Long live Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr.

    [Voice] To hell.

    [Voice] Please do not. The man is being executed. Please no, I beg you to stop.

    [Saddam] There is no God but Allah and I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of God. There is no God but Allah and I testify that Muhammad...

    At this point [...] the trapdoors open

    • TheBag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There is a more complete transcript at the Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1980902,00.html

      In particular the 'to hell' bit.

      "Another voice shouts at him to "Go to hell". Saddam, seemingly accusing his enemies of destroying the country he once led, replies: "The hell that is Iraq?""

      P.S. I forgot to add that there is a picture of him hanging. Just to warn people.

  • smokespliffz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They could have at least let him finish it which should have been "There is no God but Allah and I testify that Muhammad ... is the last messenger of Allah".
  • slackprad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Exucation"
    No, it's education. And you need it.

  • ninchenx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0...I wonder, how is life in your parallel world? must be nice to watch from a safe couch with the remote in your hand to cut out the bad scenes.
    still, i hope you never experience what the Iraqis went through.
  • xmuzik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i can see it on netflix now .....

    Faces Of Death : Middle East Edition

    Jam Packed with all your favorite internet beheadings, roadside bombings, & executions !!!!!!!
  • mr_wej, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a shameless plug of your political commentary, nothing to do with the headline except for some conjecture. Buried.
  • LeeJunFan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It should have been broadcast live by the professional/official. I haven't seen the clip, don't care to. But for those who want/need proof, I'd say that the price the American public has paid in money AND lives for the capture of this guy and cleaning up his mess it's ours to do with as we wish, and all should have had an open invitation to his execution.

    Whatever happened to Osama BTW?

    Neat how easily alot of us can be made to forget.
  • arflute, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1It is sad how we have carried his death in the name of freedom and justice. It is not freedom for the Iraqi people and it is not justice to the rest of the world. His death does not satisfy any form of payment for justice. He should have been imprisoned for the rest of his life. Perhaps remorse and guilt would have afflicted him in his old age.
    • 5hop4orce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You don't commit mass murder if you're capable of feeling guilt.
    • jerbaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@Shop4orce: Your moral absolutism is dangerous. How is it that you became so wise in the psychology of mass murder and genocide that you are able to say without any doubt that one who has ordered the killings of 120+ people cannot later feel guilt? Our President has personally ordered the deaths of 155 people. He even mocked one of them on television, pursing his lips and saying, "please don't kill me." What's the difference between him and Hussein? Just because our President ordered them according to the laws of our country and our customs? Saddam Hussein ordered executions according to the laws and customs of his country.
    • 5hop4orce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What the hell are you barking at, Moonbat?

      Please provide a direct quote, or link to a comment, that makes you believe it is in ANY way reasonable to direct those questions at me.
    • 5hop4orce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I hate to give this jackass more attention than he deserves, but this is an important example for people to reference.

      Notice how upset he is about "moral absolutism"--as if his moral outrage is so "relativistic" that it's not moral absolutism at all.

      Really. Have you ever met a Moonbat who's NOT a moral absolutist?

      Keep an eye out for that from now on. Demonstrable hypocrisy on the issue of moral absolutism is one of the Moonbat's signatures.
    • jerbaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"You don't commit mass murder if you're capable of feeling guilt."

      That's your quote. I pointed out that if you hold this standard up for Hussein you must also hold the same standard up for George Bush. If you do not, then you are guilty of double-standards (not that anyone would be surprised).
  • JackKnife, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5The video of this hanging is enlightening in that it shows the side of Iraqi mentality that most disturbs me. To permit the state-sponsored, partisan, jackal-like tormenting of a condemned man is inexcusable. How do they expect to achieve peace in that country? The obvious answer is that many don't. It's no wonder that the state sponsors/turns a blind eye toward death squads.
    Let's get the hell out of there.
  • ChicksDiggMe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1No ***** the U.S. orchestrated everything from Saddam's trial (just to show Iraqis that the U.S. believes in rights of even the accused, ha-ha) to his execution. Do you really think the Iraqis picked the day for Saddam's hanging?
    When Saddam's sons were killed, the U.S. wanted to make sure the Iraqis saw pictures of their corpses. But this didn't sit well with human rights groups or Arabs. So how do you show the Iraqi people that Saddam was executed without causing a stir that the U.S. wanted the execution shown (to demoralize insurgents and saddam supporters)? You say it was "leaked" to the media and disavow any fore-knowledge or participation in it. Same thing the public relations people of celebs do when they want to break news of a celebs' divorce without making an official announcement.
  • 5hop4orce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is not good.

    Notice how Christ-like he appears in the final images.

    Now look at the "post-ironic" mashups that the infidels have already begun to produce:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6185219928333240724&q=saddam+execution

    This is going to fuel holy war.
  • reservoirdog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"And I'm sure it will be no time at all before these videos are pressed to a million VCD's sitting on the floor of marketplaces across the Middle East to be viewed as short films prior to one's at home screening of a pirated copy of Dreamgirls".


    VCDs???

    Didn't they go the way of the Dodo in the late 1990s?
  • dicknawson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It probably was leaked though.. not everything is some kind of crazy conspiracy, you know.

    Although, the part about the US wanting Iraqis to see the corpses is.. well, true. Instill fear and all that. We live in a messed up world, kids..
  • don613, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Why can't anyone in Iraq hold a camera still? Seems like ever video that come out of there was taken by someone on a trampoline.
  • aceslick911, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I watched a few seconds of it and turned it off. Couldn't bring myself to see someone die even tho it was a man who probably deserved it.
  • Chesterfield, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@JackKnife,
    I agree. It's also going to have an impact, and escalate into a greater mess.
    From the Guardian article posted above http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1980902,00.html
    "Although many Sunni Muslims also suffered under him and were glad to see him go, the manner in which the execution was carried out will have created some sympathy for Saddam. The fact that the execution took place at the start of the main Muslim religious holiday will further inflame Sunni opinion."
    "This execution should have been for all of Saddam's victims, and instead they have hijacked it and turned it into a sectarian event"

  • djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The video would have been much more entertaining with Kim Jong-Il at the end of the rope instead.
    • NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Or Robert Mugabe, or the head thug of Burma, or Bashir Assad, or any of the other dictators who are still in power today.

      -jcr

  • ptrader, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2think how many vegetarians there would be if you had to watch the animal die before you ate it every single time.
    • NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2There weren't a whole lot of vegetarians back in the days when nearly everyone killed their own animals for food.

      -jcr

    • Tweekster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Not really, I am glad to see him hang in video. It was an interesting video that showed saddam getting exactly what he deserved.
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