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Man rips head from Hitler wax figure in Berlin
reuters.com — BERLIN (Reuters) - A man tore the head from a controversial waxwork figure of Adolf Hitler on the opening day of Berlin's Madame Tussauds museum on Saturday, police said. Just minutes after the museum opened, the 41-year-old German man pushed aside...
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- ironeus, on 08/01/2008, -70/+42GOOD. It IS tasteless.
- whiterice0, on 07/05/2008, -45/+8Eh, you're not going to get many votes for that comment here on counter-culture Digg, where the status of villains is always in question and heroes are commonly scorned, but I'll give you a Digg.
- p47plane, on 07/05/2008, -5/+48It's Hitler, in the last days of his life, after he has lost everything he has ever worked for, everything he has cared about; soon, he's going to shoot himself in the head after swallowing cyanide. If that's not a tasteful way to display Hitler I don't know what is.
- saketome, on 07/05/2008, -3/+4Why did he swallow cyanide then shoot himself in the head? That's just stupid.
- Synapse84, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3he swallowed cyanide and then shot himself to make sure he died... sure would suck to live after you shot yourself in the head.. lol.
he even had one of his officers that gave him the cyanide pills to test it on his(the officers) dog to make sure they were cyanide pills.. cause he (hitler) was paranoid. - blckng, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2So why can't we get a wax figure of Hitler with a gaping exit wound in his skull?
- orthodoxDrew, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2too soon?
- ryodoan, on 07/05/2008, -10/+28Its part of history, Those who forget the past are doomed to forget it.
- TheGuruStud, on 07/05/2008, -1/+48those who forget it are doomed to repeat it...
? - ThePwnyExpress, on 07/05/2008, -2/+31"Those who forget the past are doomed to forget it."...... makes sense to me.
- noahhoward, on 07/05/2008, -2/+6We've got enough to remember him by without the wax statue thanks.
- timothycrash01, on 07/05/2008, -0/+34Those who repeat history, are doomed to forget it in the past.
- George W. Bush - Tahiri, on 07/05/2008, -12/+5I don't see how forgetting Hitler will force us to repeat Hitler
- flogistan, on 07/05/2008, -8/+1I don't think there is any chance they will let us forget. Hell we saved them from the guy and they make americans feel like we were the ones who did it to them. Believe me, they will never forget... what a swiss army knife of guilt rubbing peoples nose in hitler and the holocaust is.
- supermanly, on 07/05/2008, -0/+13@ tahiri
If we forget how such atrocities begin, then we forget the signs and let such things occur. Thus, we get a Hitler in a new form. - noahhoward, on 07/06/2008, -2/+2"If we forget how such atrocities begin, then we forget the signs and let such things occur. Thus, we get a Hitler in a new form."
You mean appeasing your enemy and crying foul at the idea of using force? Seems like we forgot that one awful damn quick.
Quotes, witisicms and the retelling of historical events amount to exactly squat because every daft ***** to fall out of his mother thinks they can change the world and make everyone love one another. - DucoNihilum, on 07/06/2008, -0/+4Something being tasteless doesnt take property rights away. Assuming this is private owned, you have no right to damage someones property- even if you dislike it.
- blanketfury, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Does this apply to oil?
- YoctoYotta, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2You can have your cake and have it too.
- TheGuruStud, on 07/05/2008, -1/+48those who forget it are doomed to repeat it...
- gryphon50, on 07/05/2008, -0/+15don't they have Vlad the Impaler at the Mme. Tussaud's in London? It's not like he was a great guy...From a historical perspective, I think they should have both heroes and villains.
- flogistan, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3If saving all of europe from ottoman take over is a bad guy... then vlad was bad. He was certainly a mean guy when he vlad to be.
- gryphon50, on 07/06/2008, -0/+0yeah but he also killed his own boyars, German merchants, etc. It wasn't all Turks. And when he was in prison, he arranged to get small animals to impale....I think he was a bit too into it, don't you?
- ryodoan, on 07/05/2008, -1/+10Damn, I feel like an idiot right now.
The quote was supposed to be,
"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it."- blackjack75, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6Do you realize that if you had shut up about that one I'd have kept on believing in your comedic genius?
- nycmac247, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2slow down; it's ok
- MiddleOfNowhere, on 07/05/2008, -1/+33I'm German, I despise fascism, but this is pure Hypocrisy.
Hitler was one of the worst monsters to ever roam the Earth. Madam Tussaud's (I'm not a great fan, but then, I don't have to go there) has put saints, monsters, stars and starlets on display for decades. Why not him, probably the worst of the whole bunch?
Ripping the head of a wax Hitler won't make the Holocaust go away.
Denying the past means you'll have to repeat it.
(And I'm not saying that a wax Hitler is a substitute for history lessons or a visit to the Holocaust memorial. It's just hypocritical to think that ripping of his head makes you a Good German(tm).
Urgh. Why not throw feces at the Reichstag while you're at it?- omjeremy, on 07/05/2008, -2/+4I don't mind someone ripping off the head of a wax Hitler. If I saw it I'd have the urge to do the same also. This is not denying what happened, but rather condemning it. Then again, I would probably never go to a "museum" like this anyway so, sigh, whatever...
- saketome, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5Why? It's a f*cking wax doll. Find me the real Hitler then rip his head off.
- blanketfury, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2I heard he's in South America.
- themastersb, on 07/05/2008, -12/+3Hitler will always be remembered as an hero.
- moomeep, on 07/06/2008, -1/+4... only by ppl with half a brain. oh well...
- LeviTheSmith, on 07/06/2008, -2/+1a hero*
- siszam, on 07/06/2008, -2/+1a not an
And no, he's not. - akaz, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3whoosh. that flew right over your heads.
- chillypacman, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1It's funny, Hitler the big villian, yet there are many people like him strewn throughout history who are now heroes.
So I dunno about taste, maybe the ought to make a movie potraying him as the person who united the german people and conquered most of the world before being defeated or some ***** like that, because it's going to happen eventually.- blanketfury, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1The victors always get to write history
- CVL4317, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1and bad guys always get the most attention...
- kineticworm, on 07/05/2008, -8/+83...bring me his head!
- diggalicus, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2What will it take like 5 minutes to fix, just heat both sides and put it on
- paranoiabacon, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1I've killed like 12 Hitler wax statues and none of them have dropped a head.
- chugatussin, on 07/06/2008, -0/+0damn RL droprates...
- Ogopogo, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1.. stupid Reuters writer claims "the Nazi dictator, ...ordered the extermination of Europe's Jews". If that were true, it'd be headline news if he had any proof of that assertion. The available historical record does not supprt the claim that Hitler "ordered the extermination of Europe's Jews".
See: http://www.historiography-project.org/misc/ar/hitl ...
- zippe, on 07/05/2008, -9/+44put it on a platter or stake or something.
- gavinhudson, on 07/05/2008, -0/+17A little barbaric, don't you think?
It's wax. Why not make a memorial candle with it to ease tensions or something?- brad3378, on 07/05/2008, -5/+2damn it - you beat me to the punchline!
- FirEnRain432, on 07/06/2008, -2/+2people should really stop eating steak because eating animals is bad for the environment, i know this because i was there in 1934 when ice cream man drove a truck into the pottery store. i think that nicholas cage is one of the greatest actors ever except for his role in the sleeping willow becuase that movie just plain sucked. the new batman film might be good but i heard the budget was cut several times because several players from the atlanta braves said the movie was looking too pricey. nolan really took that statement to heart and went for a much watered down version. might want to take these statements with a spoonful of salt
- gavinhudson, on 07/05/2008, -0/+17A little barbaric, don't you think?
- floejoe, on 07/05/2008, -85/+167Great, you just ripped the head off a wax statue. If that does not make you feel like a man nothing will. Here is a gold star.
Now go sign up for peacekeeping in Sudan, Zimbabwe, or even Afghanistan and make some real difference in the world and lives of others.
And the other thing is, he's 41 which means he was born in 1967, 30 years after Hitler died. What the hell does he know about WWII and how difficult it was? If this were done by an old man or lady who lived through the atrocities then I may see some psychological benefit to this.
Instead, this guy is just a douchebag.- jbrown101st, on 07/05/2008, -16/+49You don't know what the man's family may have gone through during World War II. Sure, he may not have been alive yet. But, does that mean he can't feel the pain of his family members that were?
- Syphon8, on 07/05/2008, -12/+5Yes.
- acegi, on 07/06/2008, -6/+0he will feel the feeling of his parents as they account
not the actual feeling of account itself. - strfiter, on 07/06/2008, -1/+8So what? Just because you disagree with something in history doesn't mean you censor it and act like it never happened or hide the forthcomings from it.
- gfxlonghorn, on 07/06/2008, -4/+7@strfiter
If you were black, how would you feel if the guy who killed MLK was made into a statue and put into a museum? - ShisouKen, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1I'm black, and this is a silly comparison IMO
- superkendall, on 07/05/2008, -3/+16There are no peacekeepers in Zimbabwe (nor is there peace).
There's professional military in Afghanistan, which he is too old to join.
As for the Sudan - well I guess he doesn't feel like joining up with a bunch of people more into child prostitutes than effecting change. Any change in Darfur yet even with "peacekeepers" there? - palatka, on 07/05/2008, -2/+31Hitler died in 1937?
- onestrawplz, on 07/05/2008, -3/+8he died in 1945.
- Ebsy, on 07/05/2008, -1/+25I think he realises that
- valium1616, on 07/05/2008, -3/+26Everyone who had family in Germany during Hitler's time felt the pain, and they still carry the stigma of being the country that put Hitler into power. The pain of Hitler's reign is still felt as proven by the fact that it is illegal in Germany to show Nazi symbols and art glorifying Hitler.
Of course, we cannot pretend that Hitler did not exist. Hitler played a huge role in history. Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. - TrevorBelmont, on 07/05/2008, -6/+16So you found his protest to be ineffective and condemned it on the internet. You must surely see the hypocrisy of the inefficacy of your own small actions, don't you?
Your confused little post does nothing but illustrate your own shortsightedness. Unless you're posting this from Zimbabwe you are in no position to run your mouth like this.
How can you even propose that to feel strongly about one of the great horrors of modern history that you must have been there and experienced it first hand? Germans have to live in this man's shadow every day. They still bare the stigma of genocide.
People work with what they have. This man saw a monster on display as a tourist attraction and he acted on it. You have a keyboard and an internet connection so you use that. Whether or not I agree with his specific actions, I see it as childish to call a brave man of conviction a "douchebag". This just cheapens the discussion and debases your opinion.- floejoe, on 07/06/2008, -3/+9As I posted again down below, I am not the one going around breaking statues "because I think they are offensive to me."
I think the main point of contention here is whether someone who was born 30 years after the atrocities can feel the same way as those who lived through it first hand. By the time he had heard of Hitler he must have been 10 and by the time he fully comprehended it maybe 17 or 18, so now it's 40+ years post event. In my case it's 63 years post (I am 23).
Being a refugee myself from Bosnia I do not expect my children to fully comprehend what had happened during my childhood. Also, regardless of those early 90's I would not want them to harbor hatred, resentment and any other ugly emotions towards either Croats or Serbians 10 or 20 years from now.
Sure it's horrible, but will the fact that my daughter or son decapitates a wax statue of Milosevic in Sarajevo museum 20 years from now make any sort of a difference? Probably not. I suspect those emotions and that much energy could be devoted to much wiser things.
They can not relate on the same level as I can. As US citizens, what will they know of air raids, starvation and war? In fact, to what level does the population in any industrialized nation over past 20 years understand of any of those things? The fact is, for past 50 years war has always been something that happens in these third world countries.
The beauty (and a drawback) of the US is that you can live out your whole life here without so much as giving a thought regarding what is happening in Bosnia or any number of countries. And that is an incredible privilege. - TrevorBelmont, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2@ floejoe:
Dugg.
- floejoe, on 07/06/2008, -3/+9As I posted again down below, I am not the one going around breaking statues "because I think they are offensive to me."
- themastersb, on 07/05/2008, -7/+1This has caused so much controfacy.
- djholybolt, on 07/05/2008, -3/+9No, sir. You are a douchebag. And get your historical facts right.
- floejoe, on 07/06/2008, -5/+8Oh ok, I did not realize that just because one finds stuff offensive they are free to go into a rage mode.
What exactly did he prove by ripping off his head? Good job, you broke art. Maybe I should got castrate statue of Michelangelo because I don't want to see ***** in a museum.
My point is, if he really wants to prove a point there are other things out there he can do. And I pointed to Sudan etc as the types of things he can do.
I don't have to prove or justify anything to anyone, I'm not the one going around decapitating wax statues.
Sure Hitler was a bad guy, but the guy was not even born during WWII and his parents were most likely not even conceived until after the war.
The only historical fact that I did not bother to put an accurate number of years to was Hitler's death. Thirty years is a nice round number.
Calling somebody a "douchebag" is a valid argument when it is supported by factual information, such as "you broke a wax statue because you feel that it is offensive to you, others thoughts and beliefs be damned." - Gemfinder, on 07/06/2008, -2/+4I liked your point about signing up to do a peacekeeping mission instead.
The rest of your comment sucked, though.
Personally, I think Hitler deserved decapitation-in-effigy thousands of times over. What was Madame Tussaud's thinking?! - Envenom, on 07/06/2008, -4/+4Pull your head out of your ass and have some sympathy for the past *****. This is still a very touchy subject for a lot of people around the world. Calling him a deuchebag for decimating the statue of a man who caused millions of deaths and destroyed the livelihoods of thousands speaks volumes about your character.
Grow up. - diggalicus, on 07/06/2008, -7/+2What you talking about this guy is a F*cking Hero!!!
- 42Vindictive, on 07/06/2008, -0/+6Because he censored an unbiased piece of art? It glorified no one, it only represented history.
- akaz, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1******
- Samurai7, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2"Calling somebody a "douchebag" is a valid argument when it is supported by factual information, such as "you broke a wax statue because you feel that it is offensive to you, others thoughts and beliefs be damned.""
Seriously? I get what you're saying "Oh his statement was pointless and impractical, blah blah blah."
Hitler was a douchebag, not this guy. If I saw a wax Hitler, I'd rip his head off too. - chillypacman, on 07/06/2008, -1/+4Hating Hitler, like the Nazis in WW2 has been reduced to just novelty (probably due to the fact the holocaust has been repeated over and over again like nothing like it has ever happened before). I remember seeing some ***** 'documentary' about the children of the people who were put in concentration capms, all born well after the war, and they're like 'feel sorry for us'. Not enough they're collecting compensation from Germans on behalf of their deceased parents, they expect to be treated like they were put through the camps.
- jbrown101st, on 07/05/2008, -16/+49You don't know what the man's family may have gone through during World War II. Sure, he may not have been alive yet. But, does that mean he can't feel the pain of his family members that were?
- Navigator7, on 07/05/2008, -56/+8Saddam patterned his world after the values of Hitler.
I say it's a good day to know there are still those who selflessly stand up against evil in it's many shapes and forms.
Hitler's wax head removal only minutes after opening a museum is a testament evil can only exist when good men do nothing.
Iran's president denies the atrocities Hitler's ideology wrought on the world.
Liberalism has supported the evil of radical Islam.
How many heads does liberalism have and will it one day be displayed in a wax museum?- alapoet, on 07/05/2008, -4/+28OK, great job impersonating a clueless idiot who doesn't realize Bush has destroyed the Constitution in the name of fighting a now-dead Saddam.
So, do you do any other impersonations, or is the dumb-ass the only one in your repertoire?- Niallgriff, on 07/05/2008, -0/+19Check his comment history, he's not doing an impersonation, he is that dumb.
- Gemfinder, on 07/06/2008, -1/+3Where the hell does liberalism come into this?
- gerbil20, on 07/05/2008, -10/+4"How many heads does liberalism have and will it one day be displayed in a wax museum?"
And most importantly, will there be a good man around to rip off this head too? - panchro, on 07/05/2008, -4/+13Yeah, destroying some wax statue forty years after the fact is sure standing up to evil. That'll show those nazis.
- richnojutsu, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7More like 60, but who's counting.
- wexmajor, on 07/05/2008, -1/+3Putting it that way really shows how pathetic Germany is being about this situation.
- djholybolt, on 07/05/2008, -2/+3It's symbolic, you ass. And get your historical facts straight too.
- themonkman, on 07/05/2008, -1/+8Liberalism has supported the rise of radical Islam??? Are you really that stupid to believe that? It was the "Conservative" right who funded the Taliban and Bin Laden in their war against Soviet Russia. Without the help of the US, they would not have grown to the proportions that we see now. Also, when the US helped to overthrow the democratically elected Government of Iran, it prompted a mass anti-US movement that resounds still to this day. Had we never reinstalled the Shah of Iran, we wouldn't be suffering the blowback from the radical Islamic groups that fueled not only the 1st WTC bombing and the destruction of the USS Cole, but Al Qeada wouldn't have had the amount of support necessary to destroy the WTC on 9/11.
You can blame Liberals and Progressives all you want, but it doesn't rewrite the true history of what the so-called Conservative Right has done to create such enemies of the US.- Navigator7, on 07/06/2008, -5/+2Without liberalism in America ... the US would be drilling for oil in the US, producing products, goods and services the world wants as we once did... Our standard of living would be far better, out tax rates far lower, our socially dependent citizens would be just a hint of what it is today ... All while being the world's powerhouse for freedom and liberty around the world.
The American Cultural Left is the source and revulsion for what muslims perceive as an atheistic and morally depraved society. Otherwise known as Liberals. They want us all dead.
America is not is not undermining the muslims religious beliefs, weakening traditional families and corrupting innocent children, it is the American Cultural Left.
What traditional muslim societies consider repulsive and and immoral, the cultural left sees as progressive and liberating.
I'm no fan of the muslim ideology or religion but I think they have got it almost spot on. What they don't know is only about half of America is moonbats.
Liberal ideology ultimately stands for death and destruction. It has never worked and will never work. Long live free market capitalism guided by a belief in the Almighty as set forth by our founding fathers....which incidentally the Left is dismantling.. - themonkman, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Ah yes. Drilling for oil in the US. We still do quite a bit of that, but strategically why would America, unless absolutely forced to do so, use up it's own oil reserves when we can pay to use up someone else's? When the Middle East is tapped out, America will still have our natural reserves. Hopefully by that point in time we will be much less reliant on oil as an energy source. Spending our time and money drilling in the US right now is a poor investment when we can be advancing solar, wind, and geothermal energy which is of a richer abundance and far more stable energy source.
If your referring to the current Conservatives in office, I've seen nothing but higher taxes, increased inflation, and a stagnant economy. The Republicans had their chance to re-negotiate NAFTA and stop the shipping of our jobs overseas, but they didn't. It's a fact that it only increased over the last years that Republicans have had a good majority in Congress.
The religious left is not what the Muslims want dead. More than anything, they want an end to the Imperialism of the US. You may refuse to admit it, but if you read the reasons given to the US for 9/11 from Al Qaeda, it was because of our economic sanctions in the Middle East, and operating military bases on what they consider their holy lands. The Muslims really don't give two flips about us "infidels". They just want nothing to do with us. If they really cared about our evil ways and cited that as a reason for striking out at us, then the Netherlands would be in ruins right now. So would Bangkok.
I do believe in 100% free market capitalism myself. I think it's a good thing for society. That we can agree on. I do also agree that a certain percentage of Americans area morally reprehensible. I do not believe they are all the so called Liberals you speak of. There are different sorts of Progressively minded people who look forward instead of merely staying in one place and stagnating.
While the Founding Fathers, in many ways, had strong beliefs in God, you will notice that in our Constitution and Bill of Rights there is no mention of God or the Almighty. Only in the Declaration of Independence do you find this one line:
"Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them"
That is really it. I do not believe that the Founding Fathers wanted to make America exclusive or predestined to follow any specific religion or God. This, of course, was the reason for which they escaped to the Americas, to avoid such religious persecution, and that is why the Founding Fathers made it very clear that the establishment of any nationally recognized religion is strictly prohibited. When people go around trying to say that America is a Christian Nation, you go against the very thing that the Forefathers wished for us. They valued the goodness of Christian teachings, however.
- Navigator7, on 07/06/2008, -5/+2Without liberalism in America ... the US would be drilling for oil in the US, producing products, goods and services the world wants as we once did... Our standard of living would be far better, out tax rates far lower, our socially dependent citizens would be just a hint of what it is today ... All while being the world's powerhouse for freedom and liberty around the world.
- KJGJ, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4"Hitler's wax head removal only minutes after opening a museum is a testament evil can only exist when good men do nothing."
This act is almost as significant as the time when George W. Bush wiped his ass with Saddam Hussein toilet paper! You can't honestly be serious? - 0Xonox0, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Your comment is epic fail.
- alapoet, on 07/05/2008, -4/+28OK, great job impersonating a clueless idiot who doesn't realize Bush has destroyed the Constitution in the name of fighting a now-dead Saddam.
- Masternajee, on 07/05/2008, -4/+6Some people make the nest of moves.
Use it to start a football game. - Cenobite, on 07/05/2008, -9/+211Hitler was an *****, but he was also a significant historical figure. Trying to marginalize his historicity by effectively attempting to censor most things related to him won't undo what was committed under his regime, it just makes one seem like a self-important prick.
Acknowledging Hitler's significance does not equate to glorifying him. On the contrary, educating people about who he was, what he did and what was effectively committed in his name could foster understanding and sensitivity about the issue and go at least a small way towards preventing others from repeating his wacky antics.- acrodev, on 07/05/2008, -15/+7This is a wax museum, where the purpose is to recreate the likeness and corporal presence of an individual. The fact that they needed a dedicated camera and multiple guards to prevent people from taking photos with Hitler exemplifies why it should not be included. He should not be celebrated.
- Rapter09, on 07/05/2008, -3/+28Who says he's being celebrated? It's a ***** wax statue for christ sake. The guy has been dead longer than you've been alive, and sooner than I'm willing to admit nobody will be left that can claim to remember him or his terror.
History is important, and history is neutral (to the degree that its not biased in its retelling). Hitler is apart of history. He is basically the personification of evil, and his face should never be forgotten lest we forget what members of my family died for, what members of your family died for, and what he did to the world. We should never ever forget that or try to marginalize it.
They probably needed the guards to prevent people from defacing the statue; If I want to take a damn picture with a wax statue of Hitler, none of your self-righteous ***** is going to stop me. - MiddleOfNowhere, on 07/05/2008, -2/+10Who said he was to be "celebrated"?
A few hundred meters away from the wax museum, there is the Holocaust memorial. The architect who was responsible for its implementation was asked what would happen if people started vandalizing.
He said (I'm paraphrasing here) that the way that the city of Berlin and Germany dealt with this vandalism would say a lot about 21st Germany - one way or another.
Smart answer.
Now the political correct way to treat the memory of monsters (and their victims) of 20th century century wars and genocides might be to put them all behind bars, in museums, in books, in safe places where only intellectuals have access.
It takes guts (and maybe a little stupidity) to exhibit the wax head of the monster in the city from where he tried to subjugate Europe.
Just sayin'.
- Rapter09, on 07/05/2008, -3/+28Who says he's being celebrated? It's a ***** wax statue for christ sake. The guy has been dead longer than you've been alive, and sooner than I'm willing to admit nobody will be left that can claim to remember him or his terror.
- cyberdork, on 07/05/2008, -9/+8The reason why this figure is controversial in Germany is because it is part of an entertainment establishment.
Hitler being displayed as part of an entertainment product is tasteless.
Ok, I don't know, maybe you Americans regard a Md. Tussauds as an educational museum...
Then why not have a Gestapo-ride in Disneyland?- Cenobite, on 07/05/2008, -1/+11As MiddleOfNowhere points out earlier in the comments, Tussaud's displays a great number of historical figures - both heroes and villains - and omitting Hitler would be hypocritical. They didn't put up a sign saying "Hey, this guy's awesome!". Instead it's just an attempt at an accurate depiction of a man who is, like it or not, a significant historical figure.
I appreciate your point of view, though, and thanks for your comment.
For the record, I'm not an American. - Gemfinder, on 07/06/2008, -0/+6Keep in mind that we have a multi-million dollar state-of-the-art museum, with computer kiosks and animated displays, showing Adam and Eve hanging out with velociraptors and hadrosaurs.
- Cenobite, on 07/05/2008, -1/+11As MiddleOfNowhere points out earlier in the comments, Tussaud's displays a great number of historical figures - both heroes and villains - and omitting Hitler would be hypocritical. They didn't put up a sign saying "Hey, this guy's awesome!". Instead it's just an attempt at an accurate depiction of a man who is, like it or not, a significant historical figure.
- jrattner1, on 07/05/2008, -6/+3Historocity is not a word
- Cenobite, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7"Historocity" isn't, but historicity is:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=his ... - vpshockwave, on 07/05/2008, -0/+8I think you used that word just so you could correct the people you knew would try to correct you :)
- Cenobite, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7Damnit! Foiled again! :)
- Bersy, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1First ironical, now historicity.. makes you wonder if bush has slipped a few by us too.
- Cenobite, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7"Historocity" isn't, but historicity is:
- nuentendu, on 07/05/2008, -2/+2:].
- acrodev, on 07/05/2008, -15/+7This is a wax museum, where the purpose is to recreate the likeness and corporal presence of an individual. The fact that they needed a dedicated camera and multiple guards to prevent people from taking photos with Hitler exemplifies why it should not be included. He should not be celebrated.
- AmyVernon, on 07/05/2008, -10/+98i honestly don't see what's wrong with having a wax hitler. he's a major historical figure. shouldn't people be able to see the actual face of evil?
- xtinamo, on 07/05/2008, -3/+17http://slantmouth.com/articles/invasiveManuever/im ...
- gerbil20, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6The remains of the broken neck of evil look classier.
- cyberdork, on 07/05/2008, -2/+4No problem if he is shown in historical context. Like a well organized museum which tries to educate people. Md. Tussauds is for cheap thrills. Pure entertainment. "Look it's Hitler, hihihihihihihi..."
- dondara, on 07/05/2008, -0/+21We can't ignore all the ugly events in history. Yeah, there was a Hitler and he was a crazy bastard that killed millions. We can't ignore that, we need to acknowledge it and learn from it.
We need to make sure no other fascist ever gets a nation all riled with flag-waving patriotism, religious bigotry and suspicion of their own countrymen. That could lead down a dark path into a war of imperialism and economic ruin and ...wait, ...oh *****.- abacadabbra, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2HA! well said my friend!
- Bloodboiler, on 07/05/2008, -1/+9Rather than see the face of evil in Hitler, people should see him as just a man and then think about what he did. A life like wax figure of him among celebrity figures accomplishes that well.
As long as we deny humanity of people like him we never notice when we lift them to power. Ugly truth about us humans is that what Nazis did is hardly unique in history or in present day. There are plenty of people like Hitler in power right now. Most of us just don't care, because it's all happening elsewhere to strange other people, or because its our own lunatic that's giving orders.
- digitaldivinci, on 07/05/2008, -1/+18While I in no way agree with his actions, he was an integral part of world history and a statue of him in a historical section of a German museum should be expected.
- jgambleii, on 07/05/2008, -8/+103Did he scream "THIS. IS. BERLIN." afterwards?
- EuroRaver, on 07/05/2008, -2/+6He screamed “Nie wieder Kreig!”
"No more war!" - Lutremi, on 07/05/2008, -1/+1Hello Mr. Hilter
- EuroRaver, on 07/05/2008, -2/+6He screamed “Nie wieder Kreig!”
- dudefather, on 07/05/2008, -6/+144FATALITY
- erad222, on 07/05/2008, -3/+9Dammit! I was only slightly late. Well played sir.
- Flame15, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2Awesome.
- UNDERSTAR, on 07/06/2008, -1/+4FLAWLESS VICTORY!
- proficient, on 07/05/2008, -13/+3Oh lawd.
- ThePwnyExpress, on 07/05/2008, -2/+50i wanted a pic of the headless hitler...
- SatansSpatula, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1I want: one wax Hitler head and one zippered bowling ball bag. Let the good times roll.
- GorfTron, on 07/05/2008, -3/+18There was some candy when I was a kid that was little wax soda bottles filled with soda. We would drink them and then chew the bottle! I wonder if this guy drank from Hitler's head and then chewed it. dunno...
- XBSHX, on 07/05/2008, -0/+5Ha! Yeah I remember those, the wax tasted like crap though.
- asianEmo, on 07/05/2008, -4/+5He should have melted him with the holy grail
- paulisnotdead, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7You mean ark of the covenant?
- fuzzybeard, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3Don't look!
- paulisnotdead, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7You mean ark of the covenant?
- GorfTron, on 07/05/2008, -3/+72Perhaps he just hates wax statues...
- blackjack75, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3Epilation is much more painful than what men think.
- textrant, on 07/05/2008, -1/+3Maybe he has a fetish for the heads of wax statues? Even a rarer fetish for the head of Hitler's wax statue?
- GorfTron, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3Very rare, but this IS Germany...
- Akraz, on 07/05/2008, -7/+11I wont lie, that is amazing wax-art. i know the whole point is to make it look REAL but damn that is as close to real as one can get!
Whoever apposes Hitler is someone who needs to grow up and learn that it's history. Arrogant bastards. If it wasnt for hitler, most of europe wouldnt be the way it is today.- boombye, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2Yeah you can't just censor the parts of history that make you feel ashamed or guilty because of something that happened in the past. You don't see us banning any mention of slavery from history books. They should be very familiar with what has happened in their country in the past, how and why it led to what it did, from the rise and fall of their reich, they should learn, so that these mistakes that were made in the past won't be forgotten or ignored and then be repeated in the future. How can you grow and learn from the experience if you pretend it didn't happen, it just leaves the door open for history to repeat itself. Germany needs to stop censoring history.
- BlacklabelSAR, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4Since you brought it up, we teach kids that Lincoln freed the slaves, but not that we broke the Constitution and broke the word the Union gave to it's member states when they joined.
We also don't teach kids that during WW2 the U.S. put Japanese Americans into internment camps. Or that the U.S. broke it's agreements with the Native Americans. See a pattern? - frem, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3As much as homeschooling is looked down upon by some parts of society, I found that getting "the full story" was a distinct benefit.
- BlacklabelSAR, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4Since you brought it up, we teach kids that Lincoln freed the slaves, but not that we broke the Constitution and broke the word the Union gave to it's member states when they joined.
- boombye, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2Yeah you can't just censor the parts of history that make you feel ashamed or guilty because of something that happened in the past. You don't see us banning any mention of slavery from history books. They should be very familiar with what has happened in their country in the past, how and why it led to what it did, from the rise and fall of their reich, they should learn, so that these mistakes that were made in the past won't be forgotten or ignored and then be repeated in the future. How can you grow and learn from the experience if you pretend it didn't happen, it just leaves the door open for history to repeat itself. Germany needs to stop censoring history.
- richiewrt, on 07/05/2008, -4/+10Dare I say...
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!! - Derelict267, on 07/05/2008, -1/+3If only he ran away with it, could have been an awesome stop motion face melt vis a vis raiders of the lost ark
- DroppedGT, on 07/05/2008, -4/+56We needed this guy back in 1942. Hes about 5 decades to late.
- gforce051, on 07/05/2008, -1/+24Oh, is this article from 1992?
- bagelmaster, on 07/05/2008, -1/+20people are really failing at math today
- MMaster23, on 07/05/2008, -1/+7try 1935 ... (also try and learn more about Euro history :X)
- yosserhughes, on 07/05/2008, -0/+24No, no. History only started when the US got involved.
- DroppedGT, on 07/05/2008, -1/+23Stop making fun of me... im .. 5.
- J0415, on 07/06/2008, -1/+1You're 5 DECADES.
- Locke23, on 07/05/2008, -5/+29I would tell this man, as a Jew and as some one who will always despise any Nazi or Neo-Nazi, that commiting an act like this is pointless and will accomplish nothing more than a jail sentence or fine. Hitler, no matter what he did, is one of the most significant historical figures in the world, and rather than hate him now or commit random acts of destruction towards symbols that represent him, we must try to educate ourself the most we possibly can in order to continue growing inside the history of the world. It dosn´t matter how many heads you rip off statues or how many symbols of Nazi´s you censor, what has been done is done, so lets continue forward.
- pgoetz, on 07/05/2008, -11/+9Since Israeli zionists are the modern equivalent of nazis, can we count on you to speak out against AIPAC?
- fuzzybeard, on 07/05/2008, -6/+7Your Troll-Fu is weak, Grasshopper.
- Locke23, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1You are wrong if you think any terrorist organization today is the equivalent of Nazi´s. Be it the terrorist Hamas, extremist Muslim groups, Israeli zionists, or even the KKK:
- Locke23, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Dumbass.
- pgoetz, on 07/05/2008, -11/+9Since Israeli zionists are the modern equivalent of nazis, can we count on you to speak out against AIPAC?
- rmeddy, on 07/05/2008, -1/+19What too soon?
- falafelkiosken, on 07/05/2008, -2/+28the whole debate is pretty ridiculous. it's history – if we (with that I mean the Germans mostly) keep covering and not talk about the history behind WW2 and the holocaust people are going to forget it and make the same mistakes again
- Pake, on 07/05/2008, -2/+8Well, that's pretty much Germany's plan and has been for decades. Their goal is to pretty much censor all the history of WWII and hope that through time, the people forget the atrocities their ancestors allowed to take place.
- ammundsen, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2What? The US and Soviets made Germans 'learn' about their deeds at the end of the war by forcing them on tours of camps. The Germans continue to pay reparations. You can be jailed for disagreeing with official facts of the holocaust. The Germans like many losers have been made out by the victors to be the epitome of evil.
- fuzzybeard, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6Germany's at least acknowledged what they did in WWII; Japan, on the other hand...not so much.
- Pake, on 07/05/2008, -2/+8Well, that's pretty much Germany's plan and has been for decades. Their goal is to pretty much censor all the history of WWII and hope that through time, the people forget the atrocities their ancestors allowed to take place.
- inotocracy, on 07/05/2008, -7/+4Good for him, but a pointless act.
- dizzythegreat, on 07/05/2008, -4/+4I want to put that head on my mantle, please. Maybe put some prop blood on it. And carve a star of David into his forhead!
- SatansSpatula, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2Meh. Pedestrian. If you'd come up with some crazy way to turn it into a sex toy, for example, then you'd have my attention. Back to the drawing board of originality, m'boy.
- jun2san, on 07/05/2008, -2/+6related: http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.htm ...
- yosserhughes, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2One of the funniest things I've read in years. Good job/
- AmyVernon, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1most excellent.
- leubstop, on 07/05/2008, -10/+4security cameras $1000
Armed guards $200
Hitlers head rolling down the steps: priceless- byrdgang, on 07/05/2008, -0/+13Can I kindly ask you to stop with the MasterCard jokes? kthnxbie.
- SilverStandard, on 07/05/2008, -2/+1Come on, have a sense of humor. I think they're pretty hilarious.
- fuzzybeard, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6For everything else, there's the Tired Internet Cliche Card.
- byrdgang, on 07/05/2008, -0/+13Can I kindly ask you to stop with the MasterCard jokes? kthnxbie.
- MendotaLee, on 07/05/2008, -6/+23Can't wait till I tear of Bush's head.
- sk1p17, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4off*
- fuzzybeard, on 07/05/2008, -3/+5Take a number.
- CVL4317, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1We need Bush's wax statue first.
- sk1p17, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4off*
- lennybird, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7491280.stm - BBC version (more details)
- skcoder, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2That is some amazingly realistic waxwork.
- MMaster23, on 07/05/2008, -9/+3HE-HE-HE-HE-HE-HE-HEADSHOT
- Albo23, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3He didn't say it like that.
- AntiZionist, on 07/05/2008, -9/+1More German intolerance and overreaction to something that is really not that big of a deal. Instead of being the world leader in staying in the center they go to the extreme. Do I like Hitler? No, but everything has just been so blown out of proportion in Germany. Extreme Anti!
Read the old history books and see exactly why Hitler decided it was needed to oppress the Jewish people. It's ridiculous to think it wasn't provoked. However, Hitlers reaction was no doubt just as ludicrous and sinister.
Most people have been brainwashed into believing what government wants you to believe. They take it as truth. My government wouldn't lie to me! Government are people too and they happen to be compulsive lairs. - nycmac247, on 07/05/2008, -8/+3That will show people that they shouldn't be NAZIs!!!!
- fuzzybeard, on 07/05/2008, -1/+3Especially the ones from Illinois. I hate Illinois Nazis!
- textrant, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1Why? Because someday when someone makes a wax statue of you 63 years after your death, it'll be decapitated in less than 1 hour of public display. I'm sure that'll teach 'em.
- bennypowers, on 07/05/2008, -4/+6Right on!
- boombye, on 07/05/2008, -11/+6Why is it that people in Germany are cowards over this whole Nazi issue? Yes cowards, stand up and face your fears, acknowledge your history and stop trying to ban that moment of time from existence, it won't happen, people won't forget. They keep trying to pretend it didn't happen, and that is doing a disservice to everyone who was screwed over by the Nazis. They can't just act like it never happened, they don't need to be accountable for what people in their past did, but stop acting like it never happened, otherwise history will be repeated. Stop censoring past history. Staying in denial about it, won't lead to progress.
- MrSkills, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4I don't think anyone in Germany is trying to deny their past. In fact, in Germany historians can even be sent to prison for holocaust denial. But they are extremely sensitive about anything which might be seen to make light of it, treat it as entertainment, or provide a shrine for neo-nazis.
- Bizbo, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2The Germans aren't cowards.. Don't let one person represent the rest of the germans- there are plenty of memorials to the people in the holocaust in Berlin, and they definitely aren't hidden. One is bluntly called 'Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe'. They're not saying nothing happened, they're saying it happened and they're changing for the better because of it.
- thisoneisunique, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3I keep encountering that opinion here on digg - that Germans are denying their past when they legally ban glorification or mentioning of the Nazis that could be misunderstood as glorification. And I've gotta say, it flabbergasted me the first time I read that opinion and it still does now. If you'd have grown up here you'd know that the Holocaust and the failure of the German people are very much present - legal actions against glorification of Nazi symbols and ideologies is a consequence of that, not of cowardice.
Apart from that, I find ripping off Adolf Nazi's head funny as *****. The whole affair is quite symptomatic of how dealing with their past is still cause for many discussions among Germans.- boombye, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Yeah the head being ripped off is funny as *****, I should choose my words better next time though.
- sotose, on 07/05/2008, -5/+2Hrmph,you spend so much time making a wax figure of Hitler,complete with working Nazi Salute Kung Fu Grip and you'd think people would appreciate it a little more.
- foxhound009, on 07/05/2008, -5/+7Finish him!
- CHANNELOCK, on 07/05/2008, -2/+10Germans are very sensitive as millions of Germans in the east were rounded ,massacred and the survivors sent westward in a historically unprecedented exodus of peoples from the former German territories,Europe had not seen such numbers of refugees since the times of the Romans.The Russians ,Poles,Serbs and others each had their turn at murder rape and mayhem on the endless lines of German refugees from the east,revenge was brutal as the Russians moved borders and peoples... maybe surpassing the 6 million Jewish murdered,but it is never mentioned by the west as their was no sympathy for the German in 1945 and still none for today
In 1945 Berlin was a mountain of rubble its people buried underneath .
Then add decades of being ground zero for the cold war I can see why the German might be enraged at a wax dummy of Hitler.
Propped up while thousand of human bones are still buried under his wax feet - Frost9999, on 07/05/2008, -4/+4Just think, this was a life-like wax statue of Hitler, one of the most terrible people ever to have lived. All that happened was someone damaged the statue. Imagine if there was a cartoon of Allah or Mohammed in that museum... there would be riots around the globe and embassies would be aflame!
- lemur, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2By the way, there is a statue of Muhammad in the United States Supreme Court building. It's not that big of a deal to us Muslims... get over it.
- sarchosis, on 07/05/2008, -3/+4I like the British pronunciation of "controversy".
- yosserhughes, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3I like "controversy" better.
- MrSkills, on 07/05/2008, -0/+3Both wrong. "Controversy" ftw.
- wildsnake, on 07/05/2008, -3/+3And people laugh and call the people in lines waiting for an iPhone 3G morons with no lives.
- thereisnostate, on 07/05/2008, -2/+4But without Hitler who would everyone use as a scapegoat?
- Evilena, on 07/05/2008, -1/+3Bush
- textrant, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1So if Hitler never existed, who would people use as scapegoats? Hmmmmm?
The Jews perhaps?
- insurgente, on 07/05/2008, -3/+3Hahaha!
Alerta! Alerta! Antifascista! - S4MF1SHER, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5Would've been cooler if he set the wax Hitler on fire..
- Llanowar, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1As he had to push guards aside to get to the statue I doubt he would have found any time.
- ZimbuTheMonkey, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7I don't see what the problem is. They aren't glorifying Hitler or his deeds. Despite the atrocities that were committed because of him, he remains an important historical figure. And no, I don't mean "important" as in "super duper".
- wexmajor, on 07/05/2008, -7/+2It's funny how Germany can't NOT be fascist censorship land, no matter how hard they try.
- Jesse, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4So this dude that ran in and tore off the statue's head also managed to overthrow the government and enforce a state-run media?
Try not to use hyperboles so much. - Quetez23, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1I think what he's trying to say is that even now they have strong censorship of hitler.
- Jesse, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1I think what both he and you don't understand is that this isn't censorship. And this also doesn't reflect on the whole of the German people. Look at your guys use of the word "they". If I did the same thing you guys did I'd say, given that you're from Canada, that your comment shows Canadians are prone to hyperbole and thus not capable of intelligent discourse.
You take the act of some crazy dude and gather it into this moral indignation on the whole of German people. Twice in this topic. In other words, you somehow both made up and believed a generalization on Germans. Don't worry, Hitler's followers had the same mental condition. Oh snap!
- Jesse, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1I think what both he and you don't understand is that this isn't censorship. And this also doesn't reflect on the whole of the German people. Look at your guys use of the word "they". If I did the same thing you guys did I'd say, given that you're from Canada, that your comment shows Canadians are prone to hyperbole and thus not capable of intelligent discourse.
- Jesse, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4So this dude that ran in and tore off the statue's head also managed to overthrow the government and enforce a state-run media?
- huertanix, on 07/05/2008, -1/+2Seaking....
- Tweets, on 07/05/2008, -1/+22There is a G.W. Bush wax figure in Madame Tussauds. So it's only a matter of time....
- ratzfatz, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4Here a video of the guy who did it.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,56410 ...
"Was it worth it?" he replies "No".- Nazuel, on 07/06/2008, -2/+3Anyone else notice he looked pretty smug all along however?
- welliwonder, on 07/05/2008, -7/+3What a moron. IT'S NOT REALLY HITLER *****!
- Vessol, on 07/05/2008, -7/+1FATALITY!
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