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Teacher Killed After Calling Suicide Bombings Un-Islamic
dailymail.co.uk — A teacher was shot to death in northern Afghanistan after he gave a speech condemning suicide bombings, it was revealed today. Abdul Hadi claimed the attacks were un-Islamic and un-Afghan during a speech yesterday in the Archi district of Kunduz province.
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- LewP, on 05/15/2008, -79/+8Oh, this is definately front page... how many diggs will it take? 25?
- jemka, on 05/15/2008, -3/+17I can't believe what goes on in some of these countries. Girls being "set ablaze" for going to school? Can't we just mulch the entire country and start over again?
- ausfahrt, on 05/15/2008, -8/+3Right cause that would be less brutal than what is going on there now? Plus isn't the US attempting that as we speak. I for one can't believe what is going on in that country.
Not for a second am i saying that what goes on there shouldn't be condemned but letting the United States walk around with holier than thou mulching attitude isn't a better options. Two wrong no right ... something like that.- masterm1nd, on 05/15/2008, -3/+4If you think the attempt is to "mulch" the country you are a ***** retard.
- hmunkey, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2Dude, nothing Bush and the USA can do will ever match what they do to themselves. Sorry, Bush is a retard, but he doesn't have people set on fire for going to school, or killed for condemning violence.
- nmnnotmyname, on 05/15/2008, -4/+2That is ***** insanity...
I don't think we should just destroy them, but damn it, we could do a hell of a lot better than what we're doing now.- Laughsatyou, on 05/15/2008, -5/+3we? what the hell are you doing?
- nmnnotmyname, on 05/16/2008, -3/+1watching
- ausfahrt, on 05/15/2008, -8/+3Right cause that would be less brutal than what is going on there now? Plus isn't the US attempting that as we speak. I for one can't believe what is going on in that country.
- teh_techie, on 05/15/2008, -1/+10147 and counting... still not on the front page. You fail in your prediction.
- Dylson, on 05/15/2008, -2/+13I buried you, then dugg you, then buried you again. Thats how little I think of you.
- twiztidsinz, on 05/15/2008, -0/+5Gotta love the new Digg features :-D
- MoralThreat, on 05/15/2008, -7/+1I created a third account just to bury your ass three times.
- twiztidsinz, on 05/15/2008, -1/+10So you had two accounts before?
Isn't that just kinda... lame?
- twiztidsinz, on 05/15/2008, -1/+10So you had two accounts before?
- jemka, on 05/15/2008, -3/+17I can't believe what goes on in some of these countries. Girls being "set ablaze" for going to school? Can't we just mulch the entire country and start over again?
- socivitus, on 05/15/2008, -21/+108It has almost become a part of their culture and an outcry from one teacher will not change their mentality. You've got to love it when people kill because of statements or beliefs against their religion, God'll have to add another notch to his belt.
- MrWhite7, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2look up mar dushmani
- akamurph, on 05/16/2008, -0/+6It is incredible to see how insecure they are about their religion.
- HubrisDeadPan, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5What does God have to do with this?
- ZenMojo, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1So ONE guy kills ONE guy for a difference of belief and we attribute ONE guy's opinion to the entire culture instead of attributing the OTHER guy's opinion to the entire culture? Last time I checked, 701 was greater than 1.
Someone's a bigot...just saying.- joeyGibson, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2It's not just "one guy," it's a pattern. Check out what happens when someone draws a cartoon of Mohammed or tries to make a movie showing the true face of the death cult that is Islam.
- bosssmiley, on 05/15/2008, -12/+175"Death to those who say Islam is a religion of peace!"
Stupid little backwater fanatics confirming everyones prejudices that they still live in the Dark Ages (either the Afghan nutters, or the Daily Heil - your choice). Condolences to the family of Mr Hadi.- dinobot, on 05/15/2008, -8/+15Makes me wonder if they're doing it on purpose to perpetuate the perception the world has about Islam.
- dinobot, on 05/15/2008, -5/+13They as in the 3-5% of believers that are fanatics/fundamentalists that end up giving the good people a bad name.
- hmunkey, on 05/16/2008, -1/+5Any religion with 5% fanatics and terrorists should be put down. Sorry, but that means that 1 in 20 is willing to kill you because you don't believe what they do.
- IEatHamburgers, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5It's pretty disturbing that 30-50 million people want to see America and Israel burn.
- TheXeno, on 05/15/2008, -1/+13The vocal minority, in most cases, pretty much sucks/is crazy.
- Wargalas, on 05/15/2008, -2/+17Just like Digg!
- mem2, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2I wonder if they now consider the teacher a martyr for his cause.
- dinobot, on 05/15/2008, -5/+13They as in the 3-5% of believers that are fanatics/fundamentalists that end up giving the good people a bad name.
- roboticrickshaw, on 05/15/2008, -3/+5Eh that picture was photoshopped i think
- littlemarcho, on 05/15/2008, -7/+9Dude, what we call the dark ages was a time of exceptional creative, philosophical, and scientific output in the middle east/islamic world!
- kesbar, on 05/15/2008, -6/+6Name five things that have improved the world you live in that have come out of the Middle East in the last 1000 years. Go ahead and try.
- KingWilson, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5I'm really embarresed to say that you got me
anyone wanna help out? - jiqiren, on 05/16/2008, -2/+41 oil
2 natural gas
3 spices
4 ....
5 PROFIT!!! - hmunkey, on 05/16/2008, -2/+6A lot has come out in the last 1000 years. It's the last 100 years that we need to worry about. The old Islam in history was great, it was the nicest of all the major religions. Now, every religion has evolved forward and Islam has gone backwards.
- littlemarcho, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5Sorry for being lazy...
But
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
- KingWilson, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5I'm really embarresed to say that you got me
- OralCavity, on 05/16/2008, -0/+8If you want to discount their entire contribution of art and music then you can thank the middle east for:
nearly all spices.
nearly all western literature from the greeks (it was preserved in middle eastern libraries during the dark ages)- ZenMojo, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4Don't forget the Jews. They were saved from the Inquisition by Muslims.
- PandarenLord, on 05/16/2008, -3/+6Okay, Kesbar, I'll even do more:
In general sciences and medicine, they contributed or made great advancements in:
scientific method
peer review
astronomy
chemistry
surgery
physics
Inventions and discoveries?
parachute
hang glider
camera
thermometer
coffee
soap and shampoo
stained glass and other glass types
perfumes
astronomical clocks
mechanical clocks
industrial mills
water turbines
piston pump
fountain pen
steam turbine
explosive gunpowder
hand cannons
torpedos
compass rose
The list goes on and on
They also were the first to build hospitals, public libraries, degree-granting universities, and other such "niceties"- Valiantheart, on 05/16/2008, -3/+4Nearly all of those inventions were created by the Chinese. Not the Arabs.
Heck the Greeks invented the Steam Tubrine over 500 years before there was such a thing as Islam. - hmunkey, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3@Valiantheart
What are you talking about? That was all created by Islam, not to mention schools were first incorporated in a major degree by Muslims. Too bad that neo-Islam is a bunch of crazy killers and psychopaths.
- Valiantheart, on 05/16/2008, -3/+4Nearly all of those inventions were created by the Chinese. Not the Arabs.
- kesbar, on 05/15/2008, -6/+6Name five things that have improved the world you live in that have come out of the Middle East in the last 1000 years. Go ahead and try.
- sodade, on 05/15/2008, -6/+4If "they" are so reprehensible, then why does the american government meddle in their affairs?
Oh yeah, that oil *****. If Iraq is about oil, we are paying way too much for it. If you compare the cost of green energy to the oil barrel cost + the cost of doing business in such a ***** up place, it shows a pretty damn good ROI. - Barakolypse, on 05/16/2008, -5/+4Thanks for your comment. Most people just blame the entirety of religion instead of the only problem: Islam
- toshibu, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3This man killed was a Muslim. How dare you say he was part of "the problem." You're the problem.
What's next on your mind? A Final Solution to this "problem": Islam?- Barakolypse, on 05/16/2008, -1/+0There is no such thing as peaceful Islam, the "peaceful" ones secretly endorse the violence led on by more violent muslims.
- toshibu, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3This man killed was a Muslim. How dare you say he was part of "the problem." You're the problem.
- BOOKLOVER28, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1It is not the religion of Islam that is the problem it is the people who twist it to fit their own beliefs. People do the same thing with other religions, Catholics do it and Christians do it and there are others who do it as well. The Koran does not encourage any such violence and it does not advocate the suppression of women, yet a lot of countries who claim to be all about Islam have twisted it for their own purposes.
- dinobot, on 05/15/2008, -8/+15Makes me wonder if they're doing it on purpose to perpetuate the perception the world has about Islam.
- brjohnson789, on 05/15/2008, -8/+60Its this kind of insanity that makes people think the wars in the middle east aren't so bad.
- Dynamis, on 05/15/2008, -2/+13Um...I think it could be said that it's this kind of insanity yet on a much larger scale that is responsible for the wars in the Middle East.
- anogenic, on 05/15/2008, -4/+3They wouldn't be so bad if they were fought where they should be fought - in countries like Afghanistan, and not in Iraq. The Talibans are taking power again in Afghanistan and no one seems to care anymore now that the main goal of Iraq has been reached and oil is being sucked. I guess it'll take another 9/11 to shift the attention back.
- xerosawyer, on 05/15/2008, -2/+4Afghanistan is not in the middle east.
- dkapuchino, on 05/15/2008, -0/+5Its this kind of insanity that causes the wars in the middle east.
- swordedge, on 05/15/2008, -6/+112Radical Islam is inhuman.
- dinobot, on 05/15/2008, -8/+9The fruit shop shortchanged me! A ***** jihad on them!
- nullx42, on 05/15/2008, -2/+15That is not far fetched. If they get all pissed about a god damn teddy bear being named after their savior then I'm open for this to be the next thing. I'm just glad radical Christians in the US are not as radical as these ***** or every Mexican named Jesus would be put do death via stoning.
- Laughsatyou, on 05/15/2008, -1/+1the majority of those mexicans are catholic.
- nullx42, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Not anymore.
- nullx42, on 05/15/2008, -2/+15That is not far fetched. If they get all pissed about a god damn teddy bear being named after their savior then I'm open for this to be the next thing. I'm just glad radical Christians in the US are not as radical as these ***** or every Mexican named Jesus would be put do death via stoning.
- CryRightardCry, on 05/15/2008, -19/+45Radical "insert religion name here" is inhuman.
Look at the torture methods of the Inquisition.
Look at some of the Mayan stuff.
Basically when religion takes over, sanity checks out.- ozymandias2012, on 05/15/2008, -9/+30The Inquisition ended centuries ago and the Mayans are gone. Islam is growing faster than any other religion. Do you understand the concern some people have yet?
- DavidS9, on 05/15/2008, -2/+4Probably not
- relic180, on 05/15/2008, -7/+10Wow, I doubt you could have missed the point of his statement any more than you did. Bravo.
- Alix7, on 05/15/2008, -9/+3Ozy = retard
- masterm1nd, on 05/15/2008, -2/+5Radical "anything, even anti religion" is inhuman. Religion is irrelevant. Religion hasn't "taken over" anything because it's always been dominant since the beginning of civilization. Looks like you're the one on the witch hunt.
- MarkOfTheDead, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2Let's not get too excited, very few have died from radical skate tricks and if so it was always self inflicted.
***** radicals screwing up a completely awesome word.
- MarkOfTheDead, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2Let's not get too excited, very few have died from radical skate tricks and if so it was always self inflicted.
- dkapuchino, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2What do you suggest we do to stop this?
- jabberwolf, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3YES and this was how long ago?
Are you suggesting we have to wait another 1000 or so years and tolerate this until ISLAM grows up?!
- ozymandias2012, on 05/15/2008, -9/+30The Inquisition ended centuries ago and the Mayans are gone. Islam is growing faster than any other religion. Do you understand the concern some people have yet?
- GlassAgate, on 05/15/2008, -6/+1Another person who can distinguish between
Islam and radical Islam. Happy days.- GlassAgate, on 05/16/2008, -0/+13.5 hours and -5 diggs? I was making the
point that many people think that there
is no difference Islam and radical Islam.
I know that there's a difference. Do you?
Perhaps I misused the expression "Happy Days".
- GlassAgate, on 05/16/2008, -0/+13.5 hours and -5 diggs? I was making the
- placidified, on 05/16/2008, -3/+3I agree but Islam is still practiced peacefully see http://digg.com/arts_culture/Whirling_Dervishes_th ...
and read up on Sufism (particularly the Mevlevi Order). We are not all terrorists or fundamentalists. - Dunge, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2It's the other way around, it IS human, since humans keep doing stupid things over and over again wherever we lives. Nobody is mentally healthy in this world.
- jabberwolf, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3Islam is very peaceful and spreads peace, so long as you accept ISLAM !
Sorry but the whole religion is based on being a heirarchy over everyone and eveything else, it social level, in government, in taxes, etc...
It can't help BUT to create radicals in mass, as well as plenty of exceptions for killing others that are not Muslim. Yes I know killing innocent people is forbidden ( but unless you are a muslim, you aren't that innocent as far as the Quran is concerned! )- ramo13, on 05/16/2008, -0/+11. so your saying that other religions are not hierarchical ? Catholicism, Buddhism ? (bishops, monks ?)
2. it is all very fine for you Analise a religion of 1.7 billion people in whim, disregard all other factors in the area including WAR and economic collapse, post colonialism, but please don't believe that others Will take you seriously
- ramo13, on 05/16/2008, -0/+11. so your saying that other religions are not hierarchical ? Catholicism, Buddhism ? (bishops, monks ?)
- Fallout911, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3Religion is inhuman.
- Barakolypse, on 05/16/2008, -6/+4Atheism is stupid.
- GlassAgate, on 05/16/2008, -3/+4Why is that?
What harm was ever done by an Atheist, because of
their ideas and philosophies that Atheists alone believe in and follow?
Can you identify one?
Now, let us compare that with how many were caused by,
let's say, radical Christians.
If I recall my world history correctly, the Roman Catholic Church
ordered Hippocrates to be executed, by poisoning, for simply
questioning people's beliefs.
I'm sure that there were more, but I don't feel like getting
into that now.
If people want to believe in a God, or Gods, fine. Simply doing that
isn't harmful. Believing that a God wants you to kill someone isn't.
If God wants someone dead, then he can come on down here and do
the work himself.
I'm getting sick of people attacking Atheism.- masterm1nd, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3"I'm getting sick of people attacking Atheism."
What goes around comes around. I'm not an expert, but if you use google you'll find many case made for atheism being responsible for millions of deaths. I personally don't think it matters what belief has racked up more deaths, because the alternative would be loosing a fundamental right, freedom of religeon. It does get old, and I would say you're not really helping by adding "X did Y, Z years ago". If you look at the current state of the world, Christians are about as non violent as you can get, as well as about as generous and helping as you can get. I'm not sure why you respond to someone calling atheism stupid by attacking Christianity's past and not theism; especially when it was quite mild relevant to the time . - Barakolypse, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Why is atheism stupid? Because all atheists are a bunch of self-righteous douche bags like yourself.
- Digger1218, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Your comment is filled with all kinds of stupid. I'll pick one instance:
"If I recall my world history correctly, the Roman Catholic Church ordered Hippocrates to be executed, by poisoning, for simply questioning people's beliefs."
Apparently you skipped your world history since Hippocrates DIED AROUND 370BC. Jesus wasn't even born yet. Do a little research and you won't come off sounding like an idiot. - GlassAgate, on 05/18/2008, -1/+1Who ever it was, the Roman Catholic Church
did execute a person for simply questioning peoples'
beliefs. - GlassAgate, on 05/18/2008, -1/+1masterm1nd, I do agree with your comment about
the Christians. I guess that I sort of snapped and
replied to Barakolypse's post without thinking it through
entirely.
There an old saying that goes something like
this: fire can be a tool of construction or destruction.
The meaning is in there, but the words used are a bit
odd, I know. I would think that this would apply to world
religions: A person could a religion for good, or for evil.
- masterm1nd, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3"I'm getting sick of people attacking Atheism."
- GlassAgate, on 05/16/2008, -3/+4Why is that?
- donkeySays, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3A kind-hearted, compassionate atheist is closer to God than you ***** Bible-thumping, beheading religious lunatics. ***** you!
- dinobot, on 05/15/2008, -8/+9The fruit shop shortchanged me! A ***** jihad on them!
- CryRightardCry, on 05/15/2008, -37/+17And the extremists kill them for it.
What's so shocking about that?
Extremists do things like attack people who speak reasonably and make rational arguments against the perversion of religion.
It's happening here in the US where the right wing extremists make personal attacks on those who speak with reason. The only difference is here they slander them on Fox rather than shoot them.
The extremists are going to try to shut up the voice of reason no matter what country it is.
A sign of this is the attacks on the intelligentsia and academics. This is also going on in the US as the GOP attacks rational professors who argue against the insane Bush policies.
It's what scumbags do when they can't do anything else.- johnnyfistfight, on 05/15/2008, -3/+10Put on your helmet and go play outside until sundown.
- Laughsatyou, on 05/15/2008, -1/+7slandering is not even comparable to murder, but we know you hate christians.
- svtspeed, on 05/15/2008, -44/+142Imagine no religion.
- geogeer, on 05/15/2008, -30/+14We did, it was called Communism. Didn't turn out so well.
- SpeshulEd, on 05/15/2008, -6/+22A hypothetical state without religion doesn't have to be communist.
- geogeer, on 05/15/2008, -12/+2A world without God is one where one's rights are granted by others and may be thus revoked by others. A world with God has rights granted by God that are true regardless of what men try to do with them.
If you have nothing greater than the state governing your life then you are limited by what the state will allow. If you are governed by something greater than the state, then the state can never control you. - GlassAgate, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2I agree.
- geogeer, on 05/15/2008, -12/+2A world without God is one where one's rights are granted by others and may be thus revoked by others. A world with God has rights granted by God that are true regardless of what men try to do with them.
- moolaismyfriend, on 05/15/2008, -6/+6stupid people like you hold our society back.
- hmunkey, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2Japan is a perfect example.
- SpeshulEd, on 05/15/2008, -6/+22A hypothetical state without religion doesn't have to be communist.
- ozymandias2012, on 05/15/2008, -12/+39"If God didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent him." - Voltaire
- svtspeed, on 05/15/2008, -8/+33“It is an interesting and demonstrable fact, that all children are atheists and were religion not inculcated into their minds, they would remain so” - Ernestine Rose
- mfc5200, on 05/15/2008, -2/+12So then how did religion come about?
- ph070sh0p, on 05/15/2008, -4/+8Leaders want a way to manipulate the public?
- jwoelmer2, on 05/15/2008, -2/+2Interestingly, the Christian religion supports this. You aren't Christian until you are baptized. Unless, of course, you are Baptist and wait to be baptized. Supposedly there is an exorcism rite in Baptism where the evil spirits are cast out before God can enter.
- relic180, on 05/15/2008, -4/+10Oh, it's the religious quote hour already?
"This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief." -Adolf Hitler
"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion, only His nonexistence could excuse Him." -Einstein
- svtspeed, on 05/15/2008, -8/+33“It is an interesting and demonstrable fact, that all children are atheists and were religion not inculcated into their minds, they would remain so” - Ernestine Rose
- R0l0, on 05/15/2008, -7/+11It's easy if you try.
- Seantacular, on 05/15/2008, -5/+5No hell below us.
- R0l0, on 05/15/2008, -4/+5Above us only sky.
- Jan33, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1.
- Jan33, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2imagine all the sheeple
- Seantacular, on 05/15/2008, -5/+5No hell below us.
- robthom, on 05/15/2008, -13/+19I'd rather imagine there were no hippies.
(and then the song would cease to exist also, weird)- dafragsta, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1.... as well as the rest of most worthwhile music made in the past 50 years.
- xDreaminGx, on 05/15/2008, -2/+2The state of the world today reflects the mental health of (not all) those who are in a position to do something good for humanity.
- soccernamlak, on 05/15/2008, -1/+15Sadly, I'm sure as humans we would find something else to bicker and kill over.
- askegg, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2At least you can have a rational discussion about everything else other than religious idea. As religions are not based on evidence or reason it is impossible to persuade someone that their faith is misplaced.
Sure we may still fight over things, but at least you can base your standpoint on REAL facts.
- askegg, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2At least you can have a rational discussion about everything else other than religious idea. As religions are not based on evidence or reason it is impossible to persuade someone that their faith is misplaced.
- SwiftKick34, on 05/15/2008, -4/+2I just don't think God would let that happen.
/sarcasm - jjb123, on 05/15/2008, -7/+2I just came.
- brycelb, on 05/15/2008, -2/+3Now it's time for you to leave.
- toxicityj, on 05/15/2008, -7/+2*imagines it* whoa! I think I just came. and look! no ones telling me I'm going to hell! yay!
- superkendall, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5However, it's impossible if you try.
- BrendanSheehan, on 05/16/2008, -1/+7Imagine no TV. You can imagine all you want, it's not going to change much.
- ZenMojo, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3Yeah, ***** religion...how about oppressive state Atheism FTW! Let's start on the Catholics first then work our way to the Buddhists and those Falun Gong bastards!
Lead the way, Chairman Svtspeed!
- geogeer, on 05/15/2008, -30/+14We did, it was called Communism. Didn't turn out so well.
- blazes816, on 05/15/2008, -28/+85Thank Allah for the religion of peace.
- lhbaker, on 05/15/2008, -11/+5Thank God for George Bush
- jiqiren, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2Thumbs up to help Controversial sorting!
- ramo13, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3was that meant to be your sense of humor ?
- lhbaker, on 05/15/2008, -11/+5Thank God for George Bush
- eyefone, on 05/15/2008, -52/+72Lol, Muslims - the most backward people in modern society.
- sb07, on 05/15/2008, -12/+29you mean radical muslims–not all muslims
- 4321234, on 05/15/2008, -4/+26Actually, I would describe them as being outside of modern society.
- EwMo, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1With their population growth, in comparison to that of Europe and the US, more specifically, they soon WILL be modern society
- roboticrickshaw, on 05/15/2008, -4/+3The Amish and also those tribes in south east asia or the Amazon though i would nt really use"backward" to describe such people anyway seeing its generaly used in a condescending manner by hypocritical bastards I mean are we really all that civilised.
- Alix7, on 05/15/2008, -7/+9How about the Christian FLDS?
- jjb123, on 05/15/2008, -5/+3Why don't we just say anyone who believes in an invisible creature who lives in the sky, can read your mind, and defy the laws of physics?
- lhbaker, on 05/15/2008, -2/+3Maybe we've got it backwards, and all this church we're watching on the TV is just making a few people rich at our expense. Just thinking out loud here.
- salism2, on 05/15/2008, -5/+4did u know that women rights that we have 2day in the west were taken from spain which were established by Islamic laws??
backward eh?? check the roots b4 u talk about the flower as a whole- Matri, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1Source?
- spec209, on 05/16/2008, -2/+0History, read it , it helps, also google , women rights in islam
- ZenMojo, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4Except that terrorists make up about .0000001% of the Muslim population....
- ramo13, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2do you mean the most backword economically ?
just because they dont go to work from 9 to 5 and wear a tie and drive a ford focus, does not make them backward, how could you measure humanity by materlialism ? - jimjoke, on 05/16/2008, -3/+1***** muslims. Wake up Europe! Don't let them nest in your home!
- nblsavage, on 05/15/2008, -2/+59Terrible. Killing or advocating killing someone over political differences is stupid beyond belief.
- jiqiren, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1That's probably what the Germans thought as Hitler started his rise to power... Good thing no one just shot him dead - would have denied the world a reason to get into a freak'n kick ass war!
- askegg, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Ahh - it's not a political difference.
- Kythas, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Actually, with Islam, it's both political AND religious. The politics and religion in Islam are intertwined to the point they are one and the same. Islam is more than just a religion - the Koran spells out an entire social order and society, complete with political ideals and judicial laws, that must be followed in a true Islamic caliphate.
- Lingxor, on 05/15/2008, -34/+33Isn't religion great?
- Alegoo92, on 05/15/2008, -2/+15People use things like religion as a tool for hate- if it were not to exist something would take its place.
Surely you've seen South Park?- Lingxor, on 05/15/2008, -7/+1I think rational thinking would take it's place.
- DamnMan, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4I think thats what makes you a tool. If some atheists thought they could win they would gladly take up arms and slaughter thousands of heathen "believers". All in the name of their ideal of a world free of bloodthirsty religions where people slaughter each other over ideals. It would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic.
- Lingxor, on 05/15/2008, -7/+1I think rational thinking would take it's place.
- renegadeafk, on 05/15/2008, -2/+6In the name of science!
- Barakolypse, on 05/16/2008, -2/+5The issue here is Islam, not religion.
- Alegoo92, on 05/15/2008, -2/+15People use things like religion as a tool for hate- if it were not to exist something would take its place.
- compgeek, on 05/15/2008, -18/+42jesus these extremists are just retarded killing in the name of a God that expressly forbids killing ROFL
- kinerry, on 05/15/2008, -7/+15except for the fact that mohammad cut the head off of dozens and dozens of non-muslims
- ramo13, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2yes i saw that on tv - i swear !!!!!!!
how old are you anyway ?
- ramo13, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2yes i saw that on tv - i swear !!!!!!!
- Laughsatyou, on 05/15/2008, -0/+20except they kill more muslims than they do infidels.
- dkapuchino, on 05/15/2008, -8/+2No god expressly forbids killing. All religions command killing in certain cases. Murder for example, is punishable by death in all religions.
- TsuruchiBrian, on 05/15/2008, -3/+7Neither the Quran nor the Bible actually forbids killing. As a "general rule" you are not supposed to kill people, but both books give many examples when it is not only condoned by God but also commanded by God.
Saying that (the Abrahamic) God forbids killing is like saying California forbids driving. You can do it as long as you follow the rules in the book (e.g. get a drivers license and stop at red lights). The only difference is that everyone has their own interpretation of what the book says (because it is very vague and contradictory both in regards to itself and current common knowledge) and the ultimate authority on the true meaning of the book (God), does not actually exist.
I think ROFL is a strange response to someone being killed by Islamic extremists, but to each his own. - jabberwolf, on 05/16/2008, -2/+7You are NEVER supposed to kill innocent people in ISLAM.
But then you first have to be a muslim to BE considered innocent.
If you speak against ISLAM, you may not be considered innocent either.
So many exceptions to kill, in a religion of peace!- ramo13, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2no ***** jabber, you would know how people think, considering the fact that you are god...
- Rally603, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4Adding 'ROFL' to the end of that comment really drove your point home.
- Kythas, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Actually, the Koran commands muslims to kill "jews" and "People of the Scripture" (Christians).
Note the following passages from the Koran:
8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.
8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allah desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
9:29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
9:33. It is He {Allah} Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).
Sira, p463-4: Then they {the tribe of Quraiza} surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of Bani al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy bin Akhtab and Kab bin Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the Apostle they asked Kab what he thought would be done with them. He replied, "Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!" This went on until the Apostle made an end of them.
- kinerry, on 05/15/2008, -7/+15except for the fact that mohammad cut the head off of dozens and dozens of non-muslims
- robthom, on 05/15/2008, -28/+17Not the smartest thing to pop off your radical western views to radical Muslim children. Thats not the teachers job. For instance I dont want perverted hippie teachers telling my kids how awesome and x-treme it is to be a homosexual.
That had to go over about as well as saying you didn't care for iron man on digg.- hayzeus, on 05/15/2008, -1/+10Beware -- you're being UnDigg-lamic. We're watching you.
- robthom, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2Somebody's gotta do it, but the difference is anonymity. If Digg was the real world I'm sure I would have been shot a long time ago. With a magical laser cannon.
- max420, on 05/15/2008, -1/+5I wouldn't exactly say that denouncing suicide bombings as "radical" Killing someone for it is pretty "radical" tho, and not in a good way.
- pattyman5000, on 05/15/2008, -5/+2Hippies ≠ Perverts ≠ Homosexuals
- rossiohead, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2No, but a gay perverted hippie, as in the op's comment, is indeed a hippie, a pervert, and a homosexual.
- juniorb, on 05/16/2008, -1/+10"He spoke at a gathering of about 700 people, including the Kunduz governor."
Read the article first to sound like you know what you're talking about. And it IS a teacher's job to open students' eyes to reality. That's EXACTLY what a teacher is for. - jabberwolf, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2BLASPHEMY !!
You didnt like IRON MAN?!?!
- hayzeus, on 05/15/2008, -1/+10Beware -- you're being UnDigg-lamic. We're watching you.
- SexPython, on 05/15/2008, -3/+42Well it just goes to show..when you speak the truth, the world wont have it.
- dkapuchino, on 05/15/2008, -2/+6AKA digg.
- sawafamin, on 05/15/2008, -11/+45Now you know why normal Muslims don't speak out more often.
- poidh, on 05/15/2008, -6/+9It was the normal Muslims who killed him, ffs. And by normal, I mean the ones who follow their religion correctly.
- sawafamin, on 05/15/2008, -1/+3I suppose it depends on your definition of "correctly" then.
- poidh, on 05/15/2008, -1/+5It has nothing to do with an individual's definition or opinion. Since Muhammad murdered those who opposed or mocked Islam, Islamically speaking these murderers were only doing their Islamic duty and in the best way possible, in the way of their "prophet".
- sawafamin, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2It has everything to do with an individual's definition and opinion.
Your opinion is that Muhammad murdered all those who opposed or mocked Islam.
My opinion is that Muhammad only slew those who sought to murder him. - poidh, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1The point, sawafamin, is that opinions don't count for crap when facts are knowable. The FACT is that Muhammad was a murdering barbarian, as evidenced by his treatment of those who wouldn't surrender to slavery and subservience to his Islamic hordes.
Just imagine how great it would be if opinions trumped fact. I'm a trillionaire, yippee! (until I look in my bank account and realise that my opinion counted for nothing).
- placidified, on 05/15/2008, -2/+3No they're not following Islam correctly. It states in the Quran "Killing one innocent person is equivalent to killing all the worlds population".
- poidh, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4That's right brainbox. And then that verse was abrogated by other more violent verses rendering that verse obsolete.
What's that? You don't know what Islamic abrogation is? Look it up.
"None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?" (Qur'an 2:106). In other words, verses which come later supercede earlier ones. - sawafamin, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3Sorry poidh, but the verse "Killing one innocent person is equivalent to slaughtering all of humanity" (Quran 25:68) was one of the last verses to be added to the Quran.
- poidh, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2As one of the last verses (but not the last verse) to be added (even though it wasn't, but I'm humouring you), is it possible that even later verses were able to abrogate it?
- poidh, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4That's right brainbox. And then that verse was abrogated by other more violent verses rendering that verse obsolete.
- sawafamin, on 05/15/2008, -1/+3I suppose it depends on your definition of "correctly" then.
- pintomp3, on 05/15/2008, -1/+3they do it all the time, it's just not covered much
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/
- poidh, on 05/15/2008, -6/+9It was the normal Muslims who killed him, ffs. And by normal, I mean the ones who follow their religion correctly.
- p51d007, on 05/15/2008, -25/+23radical muslims....idiots.
mohamed must be a flaming homosexual.- Tomchei, on 05/15/2008, -7/+5and/or loves dogs and pigs. You know, that bestiality thing.
- RikkiTikki, on 05/15/2008, -3/+9Not radical Muslims, radical people. An American Skinhead would do the same thing.
- Laughsatyou, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4funny that never makes the news, because american skinheads arent running around blowing themselves up.
- YourRealFather, on 05/15/2008, -8/+3He was... a homosexual. it's one of the highest honours in Quaran to die as a homosexual fighting against viral desieses like HIV and all the other horrible gay *****, for the sake of Allah.
Thank you my dear muslim friend you are trully gay ... and *****.
- Skooma714, on 05/15/2008, -13/+7Guess he was wrong.
- poidh, on 05/15/2008, -3/+2He was. It's one of the highest achievements in Islam to die for the sake of Allah (ie. die whilst attempting to kill the enemy).
- flogistan, on 05/15/2008, -26/+17This is really repulsive to me due to my liberal outlook. It's just an outrage. This makes me want to kill all arabs and drink blood out of their skulls. I guess after this, when they decide to bomb women and children for no reason, I'll just feel indifferent about it. I guess the neocons were right all along.
- SwiftKick34, on 05/15/2008, -5/+12"This makes me want to kill all arabs and drink blood out of their skulls."
I'm going go out on a limb and say that you aren't a liberal.- flogistan, on 05/15/2008, -2/+3I went back to edit and put a /s in there, but the new comment system didn't take it. Guess the bugs aren't out yet. I think this story is ridiculous propaganda
- Oramified, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3you are nuts...
- Campog, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you don't understand sarcasm.
- flogistan, on 05/15/2008, -2/+3I went back to edit and put a /s in there, but the new comment system didn't take it. Guess the bugs aren't out yet. I think this story is ridiculous propaganda
- YourRealFather, on 05/15/2008, -6/+6You're right about one thing, neocons are always right.
- flogistan, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2Right.....in front of the circumcised kosher salamis of Trotskyites on their knees?
- SwiftKick34, on 05/15/2008, -5/+12"This makes me want to kill all arabs and drink blood out of their skulls."
- nblsavage, on 05/15/2008, -14/+17Here's a little nugget to think about for all those who are condemming all of Islam for this - the teacher who was killed was most likely Islamic also. Radicals of any stripe are the problem. (Actually all religion is the problem but that's not going away any time soon)
- poidh, on 05/15/2008, -3/+9Why use words like "radicals"? There was nothing radical about what they did to him - they are simply doing their religious duty.
- YourRealFather, on 05/15/2008, -5/+4the teacher was unislamic, they were islamic.
- dafragsta, on 05/16/2008, -3/+2You are a ***** moron. You do realize that NON neocons and NON liberals make up a sizeable portion of the population right, and the opposition to the war is >66% right? Are you seriously so self centered that you think most of the country is so naive about the fact that Muslims are violent people? The point of reasoning for non-intervention has NOTHING to do with being anti-war because it's popular. It's because chickens DO come home to roost. This was the one thing Reverend Wright and Ron Paul have been right about all along.
We KNOW they are ***** crazy and this lady illustrates our point. This so-called hippie represents the police element of the equation, the United States. When she tries to impose a different perspective upon the children (Iraq, if you are still with me) the radicals (the radicals) are responding violently to the diapproval. What did that get the teacher? A trip home in a box. Is it right? No. Are YOU willing to die by the hand of the militant Muslims in the name of democracy and human rights? No! Then don't ***** send someone else to fight in your place for your tough talk back home.
- crunshii, on 05/15/2008, -3/+12Funny thing is, the truth is they are killing in the name of them self and selfishness. Not in a make believe God or religion.
Someone should send them a DVD of The Crucible. - rubikon, on 05/15/2008, -13/+16that'll learn him that islam is a "religion" of "peace"
- Raoulduke212, on 05/15/2008, -3/+5and if you say its not, we'll kill you!
- fr3ddie, on 05/15/2008, -13/+5Can we throw out all the other religions now too plz?
- popfrogs, on 05/15/2008, -1/+1Big fan of Buddhism myself, they haven't caused much trouble over the centuries.
- jamessavik, on 05/15/2008, -18/+32The religion of peace and tolerance strikes again.
- whathappened, on 05/15/2008, -13/+58Bombings ARE unislamic. Afghan extremists are also unislamic - they are muslim, yet unislamic. A wise man once said "if you want to learn about a religion - DO NOT look at its followers"
- Alegoo92, on 05/15/2008, -4/+2Who?
- YourRealFather, on 05/15/2008, -9/+11The problem is that they're doing exactly what the Quaran tells them to do. You can't say they're unislamic, they're more islamic than those other muslims that aren't killing infidels.
- Raoulduke212, on 05/15/2008, -6/+7exactly...and anyone who says otherwise is retreating into a fantasy world of politcal correctness
- GoatRoper, on 05/16/2008, -6/+6Both the bible and the Quran have their "go kill them all" passages. if you want to play the "crazy ass quotes" game let me know.
- Laughsatyou, on 05/15/2008, -3/+8“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”
-Sir Winston Churchill- ssn697, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2Dude, you nailed it with that quote. My problem with the Muslim religion, above the Christian religion, is at least MOST of the Christian religion realized the old testament was a big pile of stupid, and went out of their way to do the whole "yeah, we don't follow that anymore" (unless we want to persecute gays, but that is a different story).
The Muslim religion is permanently stuck in Old Testament times, unwilling and unable to change. On one hand, that is fortunate for us (they are very far behind technologically, and use religion to stay there), but on the other hand, there is little common ground to move them out of the stone age.
/leaving soapbox
- ssn697, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2Dude, you nailed it with that quote. My problem with the Muslim religion, above the Christian religion, is at least MOST of the Christian religion realized the old testament was a big pile of stupid, and went out of their way to do the whole "yeah, we don't follow that anymore" (unless we want to persecute gays, but that is a different story).
- monoa, on 05/16/2008, -2/+6Careful listening to 'wise men' - they often talk a load of bollocks. Here's my attempt at wisdom:
"If you want to learn about a religion, look at what its followers do to each other and those around them."
Islam and Christianity don't look so good with that perspective, do they?- Bladwor, on 05/16/2008, -2/+5It depends on who you look at, I think. Sure, you can look at the extremist Muslims throughout the Middle East, or you can look at the Muslims in the rest of the world that are perfectly reasonable people. Same goes for Christianity. Yeah, you can look at Pat Robertson, Fred Phelps, or any of the other INSANE people that claim to be Christian. Or you could look at Gandhi and Martin Luther King. If you choose to look at the born-again Christians, they've got some good folks, too. Bono, for instance.
- Laughsatyou, on 05/16/2008, -6/+1blah blah blah christians are not muslims.
- ssn697, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3"blah blah blah christians are not muslims."
And yet many of them love to quote Leviticus, in order to persecute gays, then turn right around and say "the Old Testament doesn't count any more" when asked about the other verses of Leviticus.
Hmmm. Who else persecutes gays?
- Bladwor, on 05/16/2008, -2/+5It depends on who you look at, I think. Sure, you can look at the extremist Muslims throughout the Middle East, or you can look at the Muslims in the rest of the world that are perfectly reasonable people. Same goes for Christianity. Yeah, you can look at Pat Robertson, Fred Phelps, or any of the other INSANE people that claim to be Christian. Or you could look at Gandhi and Martin Luther King. If you choose to look at the born-again Christians, they've got some good folks, too. Bono, for instance.
- Shawn4168, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2Who should they look at instead? The founder of the religion, Muhammed? He did the exact same things, only without the explosives.
- taradisiac, on 05/15/2008, -19/+6Religion is a delusion, a set of radical ideas based on... what? The word of a bunch of dead people?
Religion makes people feel entitled and superior, and is a save heaven for prejudice and hate.
Sure, catholics - for example - don't kill because of their faith (usually), but they look down on "sinners".- geogeer, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Actually Catholics are supposed to look down on sin, because we are all sinners. You know just like the parable of the prostitute. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". At the same time we are to remind those doing wrong the evil of their actions as he told the prostitute to "sin no more."
- Laughsatyou, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Im sure there are things that you also look down on. you arent pure and innocent either.
- Gemfinder, on 05/15/2008, -0/+4"Safe haven," you meant?
Save Heaven from fanatics. - superkendall, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4You have shown to all not only that you are ignorant of Catholics themselves, but subscribe to the worst levels of moral equivalency - you try to tar all religions with the same feathers, but looking down on someone is hardly equal to killing them.
And no, I'm not Catholic - just well read and travelled.
- Alix7, on 05/15/2008, -22/+23How about Zionism? Radical Judaism has completely turned Israel into a fascist state which murders thousands of Palestinians a year
- CaptainJapan, on 05/15/2008, -1/+5if two wrongs made a right, you might have a point.
- ramo13, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2actually they do, in logic groups derived from principa mathematica, which resulted in the russell's paradox...
a simple example is -1x-1 = 1- CaptainJapan, on 05/25/2008, -0/+0Wrong. negative and positive numbers have no inherent ethical or moral value. You have only shown that two negatives when multiplied make a positive, and missed the point entirely.
- ramo13, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2actually they do, in logic groups derived from principa mathematica, which resulted in the russell's paradox...
- Mesmorize, on 05/16/2008, -5/+9Thousands of Palestinians? Fascist State? Its good to know that the Muslim Digg Brigade is out - maybe we all should go out to a bar and hang out. Afterwards we can beat our wives and screw goats.
- Alix7, on 05/16/2008, -3/+2Kind of like long nosed Jews
- superkendall, on 05/16/2008, -4/+8"How about Zionism? Radical Judaism has completely turned Israel into a fascist state which murders thousands of rocket-launching Palestinians a year"
Fixed it for you.- Lazydriver, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2You forgot the question mark at the end of that sentence.
- Viend, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Except when those rockets kill 1 soldier, Israel kills another 100 children.
- CaptainJapan, on 05/15/2008, -1/+5if two wrongs made a right, you might have a point.
- Jman14, on 05/15/2008, -10/+4Alqueada is a Nazi wannabe group. Way to go shot teacher! Tell them what's up!
- BassMastr, on 05/15/2008, -2/+34This is the definition of terrorism...bet nobody else in that town speaks up.
- FMDC, on 05/15/2008, -10/+45The one big fatal* flaw of Islam is that the Quran literally says to kill nonbelievers. Seriously, I tried reading it, but didn't even get past the first chapter because I couldn't. Just about every 3-5 lines in it say something like, "send those without faith to the fire!". Absolutely the most evil book I've ever read. I actually got farther into 180 Days of Sodom (it was less disgusting) than I got into the Quran.
- pintomp3, on 05/15/2008, -11/+13Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)- tim3094, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1Just to get things clear, thats the old testement, Jesus said basically to disregard those teachings and follow his teachings. The quotes you gave were commands which were nessesary for the survival of the tribes of Israel. The whole thing with Israel and the Jews in the old testement was sort of a build up to the new covanent. In hindsight, with the new testement it is obvious that the whole history of the tribe of israel and even before that is a reflection of the new agreement made about 2000 years ago.
ie we all suck at following God and deserve to burn in hell, but that's okay because Jesus has suffered hell for the people who are truly sorry of their sins. He suffered when he came to earth and died, and because Jesus was a perfect willing sacrifice and because he was God, it is justice in Gods eyes.
And with the whole 'truly sorry' thing, if you are truly sorry for doing something you should never try and do it again, so no repenting and then living as you please.
Sorry for the sermon guys but that was Christianity in a nutshell for all those who think that Christianity is about saying your Hail Marys, giving money to the pope and going on crusade. - aeoo, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1FMDC was not implying that Bible was the better book. I don't know why you bothered to print quotes from the Bible. Sure, Bible is also a pretty bad book. We know that. That doesn't mean Quran is OK just because Bible is bad.
- tim3094, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1Just to get things clear, thats the old testement, Jesus said basically to disregard those teachings and follow his teachings. The quotes you gave were commands which were nessesary for the survival of the tribes of Israel. The whole thing with Israel and the Jews in the old testement was sort of a build up to the new covanent. In hindsight, with the new testement it is obvious that the whole history of the tribe of israel and even before that is a reflection of the new agreement made about 2000 years ago.
- lhbaker, on 05/15/2008, -10/+2You 'tried' to read it means you 'failed' to read it. That makes you a failure, so don't blame what you read. Secondly, I'm guessing you don't read Arabic, so reading an English translation of the Quran wouldn't count.
- jgzman, on 05/16/2008, -0/+6Try explaining to the hordes of Christians in the USA that because they don't read Hebrew, their bible 'wouldn't count.'
- chrgrose, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3"Arabic, so reading an English translation of the Quran wouldn't count."
I hear this from too many muslims. Its almost as if their God completely failed to anticipate the Quran would have to be translated into other languages. Oh wait, I get it! The plan is to tell them to believe it or be destroyed so that eventually everyone speaks Arabic anyway!
The Quran and Love are tautologically exclusive.
- jabberwolf, on 05/16/2008, -1/+10Sorry I've READ the Quran and its hard to follow because it's chronologically out of order!
But aside from that, yes there is instructions to kill unbelievers, and that unbelievers will suffer this and that throughout the book. Don't trust unbelievers, don't do business with unbelievers, don't trust those that trust unbelievers!
And for FMDC - the big difference between the Quran and Bible is that the Quran is direct instruction.
The bible is more a record of events to learn from! So while a prominent figure in the bible tells people to go kill the other side in a war, that is NOT direct instruction to go kill everyone.
In the Quran, it's direct instruction from Mohammad to do this, and do that.- MarkOfTheDead, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2Damn now that you put it that way the quran seems pretty creepy.
I haven't personally even looked at the cover of one let alone read it but now i'm somewhet intrigues, what with my peaceful lifestyle where the only time i think killing is necessary and it's if you are in danger of being murdered. or if zombies are coming at you.
looks like i found my next gore novel.
- MarkOfTheDead, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2Damn now that you put it that way the quran seems pretty creepy.
- egoherodotus, on 05/16/2008, -6/+3every religion tells its believers to kill non-believers.
- tim3094, on 05/16/2008, -1/+0"love your enemies" - Jesus
probably one of the most famous quotes in the Bible
- tim3094, on 05/16/2008, -1/+0"love your enemies" - Jesus
- askegg, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1Yep, and if you will excuse the blatant self promotion, I did a video on this very topic - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=8gFElkTul-U
- solid12345, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4Well let's be honest, no organized religion sweeps all of Arabia, the Levant, and North Africa in 60 years without some coerced intimidation going on. Likewise it took the power of a new Roman empire to convert Europe to Christianity through force.
- pintomp3, on 05/15/2008, -11/+13Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
- zbeast, on 05/15/2008, -16/+17Ah, Islam the religion of peace...
- taradisiac, on 05/15/2008, -12/+0I mean "safe heaven". bite me.
- gimmeslack12, on 05/15/2008, -4/+7That headline sounds about right. Sad, but what I've come to expect from that region (I'm not referring to Muslim nation).
- YourRealFather, on 05/15/2008, -8/+1he forgot to mention that israel is the devil or that jerry seinfeld is a very very bad man.
- tracywood, on 05/15/2008, -16/+11More propaganda. Sorry, but I do not believe this for a second. I will not be suckered in by this sort of crap anymore.
- computerusr, on 05/15/2008, -3/+8What do you mean? You think the story is a complete lie?
- tracywood, on 05/16/2008, -3/+2Yes. I do.
- homanh, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3Its the daily mail. Do you even know that that means?
Its akin to watching fox news.- Viend, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Americans don't realise it.
- Bananas21ca, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1The cake is a lie!
- jabberwolf, on 05/16/2008, -4/+4Yeah don't beleive that muslims can be like this.
Because the more you bury your head, the more it will not be real!
Ahhh Islam, the religion of peace and TRUTH!- tracywood, on 05/16/2008, -3/+3Oh you try pulling your head out of the sand. The only people that have taken our freedoms away come from Washington not the Middle East.
- BassMastr, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3Unfortunelty, it doesn't require you to believe it to be true. ( I hope it isn't true.) You're ignorant and idealistic if you don't think this happens. I guess all the videos and stories that the Taliban used to keeep control over the people are lies too? Let me guess the only murderers you know of are the US...even though there have been many videos of beheadings etc of those the helped the "infidels". I guess those are all lies too?
As for anyone taking away your freedoms...what have you wanted to do that you haven't been allowed to lately? I bet nothing...- BassMastr, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1Still waiting on an answer...
- computerusr, on 05/15/2008, -3/+8What do you mean? You think the story is a complete lie?
- chambana, on 05/15/2008, -4/+25No reason to show that picture of the WTC on 9/11 for this story.
- homanh, on 05/16/2008, -1/+6Of course not, but then again anyone who posts an article from the DAILYMAIL isn't really the kind of person who cares about neutrality or non-bias.
Rupert Murdoch's media at their best - solid12345, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2Well the same nuts who killed this teacher are cut from the same cloth who did 9/11.
- Viend, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2It's from the DailyFail, what did you expect?
- homanh, on 05/16/2008, -1/+6Of course not, but then again anyone who posts an article from the DAILYMAIL isn't really the kind of person who cares about neutrality or non-bias.
- scubastza, on 05/15/2008, -5/+32_________ was shot today in Afghanistan.
Is it ever really a shocker?- khail250, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1can say the same thing for NYC
- Viend, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1In NYC it would be "__________was shot in a tragic accident........in NYC" as a whole long article.
In Afghanistan it would be "[insert large number here] were shot dead today in Afghanistan" as one line in on TV that no one notices.
- Viend, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1In NYC it would be "__________was shot in a tragic accident........in NYC" as a whole long article.
- khail250, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1can say the same thing for NYC
- mcla0181, on 05/15/2008, -10/+1my god can kick your god's ass... nana nana boo boo
- Chainheart, on 05/15/2008, -6/+12"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Qur'an 9:29
- leonardutah, on 05/15/2008, -2/+3"So let their children starve! Let the sword pour out their blood! Let their wives become widows without any children! Let their old men die in a plague, and let their young men be killed in battle! Let screaming be heard from their homes as warriors come suddenly upon them. For they have dug a pit for me, and they have hidden traps along my path." Jeremiah 18:21-22 NLT
So I guess the Bible is a lot better right?- KingWilson, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1thanks for the context!!!.....Chainhearts qoute stood pretty well alone, but yours could be from anywhere in regards to anything
- SkittlesUSA, on 05/16/2008, -1/+5Try and find a teaching of Jesus that promotes violence. Because as much as I love the verse you took from the Old Testament, Christianity follows the laws of Jesus in the New Testament. Name one thing that Jesus commands of us that is violent or wrong, and we may discuss it.
- mijelh, on 05/16/2008, -1/+6I'm tired of this *****: Someone reveals how violent or immoral the Qur'an is, and someone tries to justify it showing how similar the Bible is (or vice-versa)
This is no excuse. Two wrongs does not make one right. You cannot justify an immoral paragraph from a sacred book showing another immoral paragraph from another sacred book.
Besides that, there are millions of people who does not belong to an Abrahamic religion, and some that belong to no religion at all. This narrow-minded reasoning of yours just ignores this people - leonardutah, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3Touche sir. Touche.
- leonardutah, on 05/15/2008, -2/+3"So let their children starve! Let the sword pour out their blood! Let their wives become widows without any children! Let their old men die in a plague, and let their young men be killed in battle! Let screaming be heard from their homes as warriors come suddenly upon them. For they have dug a pit for me, and they have hidden traps along my path." Jeremiah 18:21-22 NLT
- Kenzan, on 05/15/2008, -0/+33The person exemplifies the true meaning of the words "courage" and "teacher."
May his bravery be honored and remembered.- Gemfinder, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Good plan.
I hope that when Al Qaeda and the Taliban have gone where the goblins go, someone puts up a monument to everyone these latter-day Nazis butchered.
- Gemfinder, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Good plan.
- The_Red_Monkey, on 05/15/2008, -10/+2Religion of Peace strikes again. Of course we should talk and dialog with these folks, they seem totally reasonable.
- Raoulduke212, on 05/15/2008, -10/+4Islam is a religion of peace...and if you say its not, they'll kill you...
- CaptainJapan, on 05/15/2008, -5/+5Islamic fundamentalists really act like jerks sometimes.
- kreatre2007, on 05/15/2008, -18/+12Screw Islam and all who practice it.
- placidified, on 05/15/2008, -6/+6Actually screw people like you, who condemn all of us, for something that some radical(s) somewhere does something inhuman and like a pack of hungry dogs you believe that we all are like this!
- DestroyFascism, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1He is from West Viginia
- mrb4b00, on 05/15/2008, -12/+7Religion is the best excuse to commit murder, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism... All have historical and contemporary means to justifcation violence and atrocities.
- djdementia, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4I'd love to see what "historical and contemporary means to justification violence and atrocities" have existed ever in the history of Buddhism. I believe that Buddhists do whatever necessary to avoid violence, resorting to it only as a means of self defense, and even then they generally retreat whenever possible.
- mmwilhelm, on 05/16/2008, -0/+0Perhaps:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ... - ramo13, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1yes those monks are look cute ! they wont hurt a fly !
other than the believe in the reincarnation, and that if you a handicapped person, you deserve it because in your heart you are bad person, that is. - mrb4b00, on 05/17/2008, -0/+0I am a Buddhist myself, and I am fully aware of historical events where Buddhism is used to justify violence. I would explain it, but I think it shouldn't be hard for you to google it out.
Does it mean Buddhism is a bad religion? I practice Buddhism becuase of its peaceful and benevolent nature. However, it doesn't mean that I am not aware of its evil implications in history.
- mmwilhelm, on 05/16/2008, -0/+0Perhaps:
- EwMo, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Each of those religions has strict, explicit laws AGAINST much of the violence and atrocities that are committed. While there are many malicious things done in the world in the name of religion they are sinning (or an equivalent term) by their own laws.
- randyzaia, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1Whenever Muslims do something bad it becomes a discussion of how "religion" sucks. Whenever Christians do something bad it becomes a discussion of how much Christianity sucks.
- djdementia, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4I'd love to see what "historical and contemporary means to justification violence and atrocities" have existed ever in the history of Buddhism. I believe that Buddhists do whatever necessary to avoid violence, resorting to it only as a means of self defense, and even then they generally retreat whenever possible.
- Somedude2137, on 05/15/2008, -10/+2Just testing out Digg's new comment system... wow !!
- pauleku, on 05/15/2008, -5/+17You dont believe in what i believe - therefore, you die. Pathetic.
- dunderballer, on 05/15/2008, -10/+27Those who have made anti-Islamic comments above don't seem to realize that the killing was also un-Islamic to the majority of those who practice Islam. Plenty of disgusting acts have been made in the name of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and atheism as well, but let us not be quick to let those acts define the entire group.
- superkendall, on 05/16/2008, -3/+4If it's really un-islamic, how come more people do not come out and say so? The fact that they are not implies to those watching that it is. If you do not like what some members of your group are doing, either you speak out, or through inaction, become part of them.
I have no doubt a majority of people are peace-loving folk that would harm no-one. But people have to police their own communities or it will not stay that way.- BoneheadFarker, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Why? Fear. Twenty years ago much of the Middle East started to become more liberal. This upset the people with sticks crammed up there asses who just couldn't stand seeing people become depraved, as they saw it. And they determined this depravity was caused by Western influence. So they started attacking Western targets in terrorist attacks, expecting the people to rise up with them against this perceived destructive influence. Only...no one cared. No one joined them, save for a few extremists who were already looking for an excuse. So in the extremists eyes, these people were not Muslims. And therefore, they were legitimate targets. Start killing the general public, and people start doing whatever they can to avoid being killed...
- chrgrose, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1True, but most of the more violent corruption for Christianity is in the old testament and as such is much easier for a christian to be flexible about following its more despicable doctrines. Thus it allows the Christian to evolve considerably. You might say that there is some nasty text in Revelations, but since those are thought of as future events, the merciless and spiteful divine temper tantrum doesn't come until the end of days. Sure there is worry that people might actually believe that those times are here or that they can make them come faster (eg. those who want to strike Iran to fulfill prophesy and such genocidal idiocy), but the maleability remains.
This is not so much the case with the Quran. The Quran is one damn book chock full of poetic hate in the guise of acting for some ultimate or greater good. Its much more difficult to cherry pick and give more modern and civilized interpretations of its attrocities and exhortations to martyrdom and such. - randyzaia, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3I'd buy what you're selling if it weren't for the fact that Bin Laden and basically any Muslim villain (by Western standards) has off the charts approval ratings in the Islamic world.
- ramo13, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2being a muslim, and living in the islamic world, you would know...
- randyzaia, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1They run polls across the Islamic world on the approval ratings of various public figures - Bin Laden always does well.
- Viend, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Ah yes, statements without sources. Lovely and believable.
- Kythas, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Yet it's not Christians, Jews, or Athiests strapping bombs to themselves and blowing themselves up in cafes or flying aircraft into buildings.
- superkendall, on 05/16/2008, -3/+4If it's really un-islamic, how come more people do not come out and say so? The fact that they are not implies to those watching that it is. If you do not like what some members of your group are doing, either you speak out, or through inaction, become part of them.
- hamobu, on 05/15/2008, -3/+10Any time any of the Billion of Muslims does something bad, it will make a front page on digg. And for some odd reason there is also a picture from 9/11. Some other articles from the same news site:
Israel at 60: It's hard to speak of celebration while so much blood is still being spilt
Iran's plan for bomb revenge on Israel
Which of these is the greater threat to Israel? - liuite, on 05/15/2008, -0/+4lesson one: radical extremists don't like to be told that they are wrong
lesson two: you are either with them or you are with the terrorists - liquisoft, on 05/15/2008, -4/+3Quick! Let's shove democracy down their throats while we still can!
- Viend, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1We have been trying for the past...6½ years and we're still failing.
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