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Third Cable Cut -- Now Iran Has No Internet Access
therawfeed.com — I told you early Wednesday morning that much of the Middle East and most of India lost Internet access when an undersea cable was cut (it turns out that two cables were cut). Now, a third cable has apparently been severed, and the entire nation of IRAN HAS ZERO INTERNET ACCESS.
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- GIMAD2008, on 02/02/2008, -276/+34tsk, tsk, all three people in Iran are without Internet access....
- Napoleone, on 02/02/2008, -19/+185By your picture you look to be a man approaching or in his forties. How is it maturity has eluded you this long?
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -106/+9more like how your mom has eluded me in the bedroom.
- Zalyster, on 02/02/2008, -9/+14She hasn't eluded ME...
- mightydavefish, on 02/04/2008, -0/+1I see you figured out how to get around the NetNanny your parents put on the pc.
- knobtwiddler, on 02/02/2008, -3/+17now prepare for NWO takeover of the internet as "key infrastructure" that must be defended from the terrorists.
this whole thing smells fishy. what are the odds that this happens 2x in 3 days and never before?- fyngyrz, on 02/02/2008, -0/+8What it smells like to me is a prelude to military action. Ol Bushie-boy loves the smell of suppressed information with his early morning military actions. The co-incidence level here is astronomical. I don't buy the "oops!" theory.
- LeeSoong, on 02/03/2008, -0/+2why terrorize Iranian geeks ?
- spawnfree, on 02/03/2008, -0/+3to stop them distributing footage of any early morning military actions
- fyngyrz, on 02/02/2008, -0/+8What it smells like to me is a prelude to military action. Ol Bushie-boy loves the smell of suppressed information with his early morning military actions. The co-incidence level here is astronomical. I don't buy the "oops!" theory.
- quaxon, on 02/02/2008, -3/+7he looks like big foot from the howard stern show.
- Frnnkdlxx, on 02/02/2008, -2/+3Suuuper Buuurn!!!! *melts into a meat popsicle*
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -106/+9more like how your mom has eluded me in the bedroom.
- DocHoliday22, on 02/02/2008, -6/+30India is becoming a backbone for outsourced operations so no Internet for them pretty much means a vicious collapse for western economies too... So it doesn't seem like a conspiracy.
- BigBallistix, on 02/02/2008, -9/+8They run half the world's illegal banks actually.
- rficwizard, on 02/02/2008, -8/+7And why should banks be illegal?
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -2/+13message: "outsourcing is ***** up"... and birds go tweet.
- PURPLEDRINK, on 02/02/2008, -4/+3HAHA! ***** HODJI AND ***** OUTSOURCING *****!
- csw1342, on 02/05/2008, -0/+1you mean Haji, i think and out sourcing ***** would put you and your mom out of business
- BigBallistix, on 02/02/2008, -9/+8They run half the world's illegal banks actually.
- neiltc13, on 02/02/2008, -5/+37According to Wikipedia, Iran's population is over 70,000,000!
- allan17, on 02/02/2008, -16/+6How many own a computer?
- EvilWalksWithMe, on 02/02/2008, -4/+18Dunno. You should Skype someone and ask them.
Oh wait.... - Colitas13, on 02/02/2008, -4/+9More than you think. Have you been there? I have.
- RobotBuddha, on 02/02/2008, -5/+3Depends if Katz has told them it's OK to dig up their commadore 64s.
- TopherT, on 02/02/2008, -1/+11Iran's internet access is around 13%
~18 Million users in 2006
- EvilWalksWithMe, on 02/02/2008, -4/+18Dunno. You should Skype someone and ask them.
- twinklyJesus, on 02/02/2008, -7/+14According to Wikipedia, California's population is over 36,000,000!
- thetechkid, on 02/02/2008, -1/+27According to Wikipedia, Iran's population is OVER 9000!
- PURPLEDRINK, on 02/02/2008, -3/+1Not after we're done witth them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine-American_W ...
- allan17, on 02/02/2008, -16/+6How many own a computer?
- Malarie, on 02/02/2008, -2/+15Please do not make kids. That would help the evolution of the race
- MURDERTRON, on 02/03/2008, -0/+3Neither of you are accurate representatives of any race and I hope you stop believing eugenacist trash.
- Jeffler, on 02/02/2008, -10/+31***** off, my best friend is living there for the year and relies on his internet connection to communicate with me and his other friends.
- Zalyster, on 02/02/2008, -4/+4Satellite phones FTW
- gquaglia, on 02/02/2008, -5/+9sucks to be him
- rhino369, on 02/02/2008, -8/+13Why would your friend go a theocracy like Iran? Its like taking a holiday to Germany in 1938, or the Soviet Union in the last 1920's. Its just a bad idea.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 02/02/2008, -9/+14NOEZ TEH REAL THEOCRAZY IS BUSH! TEH REAL HITLER IS DICK CHENY MCHALLIBURETON! AND TEH TRUE GULAG IS GITMO!!
/diggiot- jim1977, on 02/02/2008, -3/+10http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
facepalm - masterm1nd, on 02/02/2008, -6/+2How can it be a strawman? He's not arguing anyone so he can't be misrepresenting them. Besides, people actually believe that...
- jim1977, on 02/02/2008, -3/+10http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
- jim1977, on 02/02/2008, -5/+6Civilian contracts, douche. Like those in Saudi.
PS: "In God We Trust."- LeeSoong, on 02/12/2008, -0/+1pps: All Others Pay Cash.
- Jeffler, on 02/02/2008, -1/+7Because thats where he's from and his Dad still lives there.
- makkaveli19, on 02/02/2008, -2/+2wtf, have you been to iran. if you don't care about the gov it's a lot of fun.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 02/02/2008, -9/+14NOEZ TEH REAL THEOCRAZY IS BUSH! TEH REAL HITLER IS DICK CHENY MCHALLIBURETON! AND TEH TRUE GULAG IS GITMO!!
- jim1977, on 02/02/2008, -3/+2http://www.sepanta.net/pages/index-fa.asp
Actually, seeing as this is an ISP page hosted there, I'd say their 25 million internet users are fine. - dmjarrington, on 02/02/2008, -2/+8@GIMAD2008
You make America suck. - strig, on 02/02/2008, -4/+2come on guys, lighten up.
- Jareth86, on 02/02/2008, -1/+9If its not America, nobody lives there. Don't you people know anything.
- Arfaei, on 02/05/2008, -0/+0I'm Living in Iran.I'm Using Internet to read your arrogant comment.So stop being so short-minded.
- Napoleone, on 02/02/2008, -19/+185By your picture you look to be a man approaching or in his forties. How is it maturity has eluded you this long?
- anderzole, on 02/02/2008, -14/+467something's afoot
- cageybee, on 02/02/2008, -9/+72i already said earlier that this is done to prevent the inauguration of the iranian oil bourse http://www.energybulletin.net/12125.html and http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=37468§ion ... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Oil_Bourse
- Napoleone, on 02/02/2008, -5/+43You did indeed. Your presentations are usually so over the top though, that it's very hard to take what you say seriously. I don't say that to offend, but rather to advise you to exercise restraint in your presentations.
- BigBallistix, on 02/02/2008, -3/+12Very nice work. Extremely thorough articles, I think you're on the ball.
- DeadFox1, on 02/02/2008, -6/+4so- please tell me how cutting some internet cables prevents an inauguration of an oil bourse?
- cageybee, on 02/02/2008, -3/+26well, first you must understand what Iranian Oil Bourse is. It is a petroleum exchange that will be dealing and transacting in Euros and Yen only. Underpinning the support of the PETRO USD. If all of Eurasia will follow, then the USD's only support - oil - will cease to exist, and, the USD will become a toilet paper. Copish?
- FatLoser, on 02/03/2008, -9/+1As an American, I demand you put this into words simple enough for me to understand. You elitist Eurotrash piece of *****!
- LeeSoong, on 02/12/2008, -0/+1'' NASCAR and Slurpies go bye-bye ! ''
- thedude42, on 02/02/2008, -2/+6That's not the point. The question is, what will postponing internet connectivity by 5-20 days do in the long run? Maybe enough time to start world war 3, which I'm sure will be dubbed "Iran-west war" or something less alarming than world war.
- cageybee, on 02/02/2008, -5/+6well, the thing is, the ***** that they have been hiding from their own citizens and from the rest of the world has been exposed in some recent documentaries and is about to hit other nations via the internet. the problem is, that in one of these documentaries, it is proven that the Queen of England is in fact a Pharaoh and that the Russian Revolution and the overthrow of Russian Czar and the Installation of Capitalism in Russia is all work of the Banking Cartel headed by Rothschild, Warburg, Schiff, and one other one that I forgot the name of it.
Oh, but that's not all, the worst is yet and much more is exposed in this documentary. You gotta see it. Its called Ring of Power and it is available on Google video in 2 parts. Be prepared to spend 5 hours on it.
- cageybee, on 02/02/2008, -5/+6well, the thing is, the ***** that they have been hiding from their own citizens and from the rest of the world has been exposed in some recent documentaries and is about to hit other nations via the internet. the problem is, that in one of these documentaries, it is proven that the Queen of England is in fact a Pharaoh and that the Russian Revolution and the overthrow of Russian Czar and the Installation of Capitalism in Russia is all work of the Banking Cartel headed by Rothschild, Warburg, Schiff, and one other one that I forgot the name of it.
- cageybee, on 02/02/2008, -3/+26well, first you must understand what Iranian Oil Bourse is. It is a petroleum exchange that will be dealing and transacting in Euros and Yen only. Underpinning the support of the PETRO USD. If all of Eurasia will follow, then the USD's only support - oil - will cease to exist, and, the USD will become a toilet paper. Copish?
- OnymousHero, on 02/02/2008, -2/+9Thanks for the links, they put lots of recent history into perspective A++ Would Digg up again
- thedaylights, on 02/03/2008, -1/+1Though you did nothing wrong, I am giving you this negative feedback to teach you that the universe is arbitrary and unfair.
- JoeHammer, on 02/03/2008, -2/+0Why digg this? They will never see it....
- thepain353, on 02/02/2008, -17/+7israel has its revenge
- lex0nyc, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Knish?
- fluxion, on 02/02/2008, -4/+5"It may take sometime to fix the cut but we are rerouting the traffic to another cable in the U.K. and U.S., the bandwidth utilization will go down," the official said.
hmm- poopz, on 02/02/2008, -9/+3-
- poopz, on 02/02/2008, -28/+15WOW as soon as something bad happens to iran, you blame the US government? Then whenever something bad happens to the US, I'm sure the Iranians will be blamed by Bush and his cronies.
Ignorance on both sides- Memitim, on 02/02/2008, -9/+32Yeah, because there is absolutely no reason to suspect the US government when highly unlikely ***** happens to Iran.
- WolverineBlue, on 02/02/2008, -2/+27Huh, his entire post was "something's afoot." I don't see the US anywhere in that statement. When just two cables were cut, I just thought it was really bad coincidence, but three cables at the same time seems too improbable. I'm not saying it was the US, it could've been a lot of groups.
- cageybee, on 02/02/2008, -3/+211 is an accident, 2 is a pattern, 3 is a program
- thedaylights, on 02/03/2008, -1/+24 is a miniseries
- kyleain, on 02/05/2008, -0/+0Isn't it God who put the Jews in Israel? Isn't it God who said,
"As men gather silver, copper, iron, lead and tin into a furnace to melt it with a fiery blast, so will I gather you in my anger and my wrath and put you inside the city and melt you. I will gather you and I will blow on you with my fiery wrath, and you will be melted inside her." - Ezekiel 22:20-21
" 'This is what the Sovereign Yahweh says: When I gather the people of Israel from the nations where they have been scattered, I will show myself holy among them in the sight of the nations. Then they will live in their own land, which I gave to my servant Jacob." - Ezekiel 28:25
And have you forgotten this warning, or did you not know that it was God who said, "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you." - Genesis 12:3
- rficwizard, on 02/02/2008, -0/+12Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time is enemy action.
- satanswetnipple, on 02/02/2008, -1/+6Though the two most likely are the CIA because of the Oil Bourse, and Mossad because Israel is about to illegally attack Iran and do not want foreign news feeds getting to the world. Of course if it is the CIA, they will have Israels permission, and if it is Mossad, they will have the Bush/Cheney green light (with less than a year in control, or until they have to seize absolute power, they do not have much time to kill more non christians and plunder their wealth).
- cageybee, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4exactly, our government is hijacked by zionists and we're about to be fighting an zionist war. Zionists put themselves above God and think that proclamation of the State of Israel is necessary because God said so. But wait, isn't it Messiah that is supposed to gather all Jews in Jerusalem? Isn't it God who dispersed Jews throughout the land and said wait for Messiah? How dare then Zionists put themselves above God, push palestinians out, and now have hijacked our government to put US behind Zionists goals to stand up for them against all of Eurasia, and practically dragging us into a nuclear war with Russia?
We must cease support of Israel ASAP, otherwise, we'll be dragged into a nuclear war with a country that has nuclear weapons that guaranteed to be unstoppable by any defense shields.
We've created this crisis back in early seventies when we have decided not to pay our debt in gold as it was requested and declared ourselves bankrupt. On top of that, we went to Saudi's and used their oil as a backing for US dollar. And now, when they don't want to take it anymore because we've been exploiting them, we are threatening to attack them because we think that they are against us and they are developing nuclear weapons. This is absurd!
- cageybee, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4exactly, our government is hijacked by zionists and we're about to be fighting an zionist war. Zionists put themselves above God and think that proclamation of the State of Israel is necessary because God said so. But wait, isn't it Messiah that is supposed to gather all Jews in Jerusalem? Isn't it God who dispersed Jews throughout the land and said wait for Messiah? How dare then Zionists put themselves above God, push palestinians out, and now have hijacked our government to put US behind Zionists goals to stand up for them against all of Eurasia, and practically dragging us into a nuclear war with Russia?
- cageybee, on 02/02/2008, -3/+211 is an accident, 2 is a pattern, 3 is a program
- dienaked, on 02/02/2008, -4/+91For just a little perspective:
Just over a year ago one undersea earthquake cut 9 cables in the Asia Pacific region.
3 years ago Pakistan was cut completely cut off because of an cut in a undersea cable.
In 2004 Sri-Lanka was cut off when a ship dropped anchor on a cable.
Five years ago someone did deliberately cut a cable just offshore from a resort in Japan.
In 1999 a cable in the North Sea was cut by a fishing trawler.
etc, etc. It happens more often than you'd think. This is just a very small set of examples.- Zalyster, on 02/02/2008, -3/+17Cuts? In MY internet tubes?
It happens more often than you think!- iFrikkenR, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6I love you
- yojiffyskippy, on 02/02/2008, -3/+6You mean GW isn't doing it?
- Frnnkdlxx, on 02/02/2008, -0/+17GW DOES EVERYTHING! Stop pretending he doe...OH MY GOD HE'S RIGHT BEHIND ME!!!!!!
- tastypaste, on 02/02/2008, -2/+10It happens all the time, but 3 in 3 days when no earthquakes were reported?
- lintmonkey, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1It was those pesky lobsters again.
- rojano17, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1I heard candlejack had something to do w
- dfective, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Just curious, but what the cables look like that connect these huge areas?
- FatLoser, on 02/03/2008, -1/+1Curiously enough, they can best be described as... well... tubes. They are tubes stuffed with fiber optics. So all the people making fun of that one politician for referring to them as "tubes"... IN YOUR FACE FRYMAN.
- screensnot, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1You might want to read the context he used it in, before you go defending him.
There may be a decent analogy where the internet is compared to tubes, but Sen. Ted Stevens hasn't heard it.
- screensnot, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1You might want to read the context he used it in, before you go defending him.
- dienaked, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1It looks like big thick extension cord cables.
Here's a picture of a guy walking on top of a large coil of undersea cable.
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/05/26/cable ...- dienaked, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1stupid digg link length crap. try this
http://tinyurl.com/2n7md8
- dienaked, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1stupid digg link length crap. try this
- FatLoser, on 02/03/2008, -1/+1Curiously enough, they can best be described as... well... tubes. They are tubes stuffed with fiber optics. So all the people making fun of that one politician for referring to them as "tubes"... IN YOUR FACE FRYMAN.
- Hangly, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4The timing and target here can't be coincidence.
- dienaked, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1They lay all these cables very near each other in the same areas, so (hopefully) ships will obey anchor/trawling restrictions near them.
If one ship does break the rules, there is the potential to break many cables at once.
- dienaked, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1They lay all these cables very near each other in the same areas, so (hopefully) ships will obey anchor/trawling restrictions near them.
- tgc1, on 02/02/2008, -3/+5It's hard for me, having seen how thick these cables are, to believe they were cut. We're talking GINORMOUS cables. Calling them cables is actually probably an understatement. Those things are the size of a sewer pipe. Probably in the area of about 6-8ft in diameter. So how they got cut... is beyond me.
- Damien79, on 02/03/2008, -0/+2how can porn and poker chips block tubes that big?
- S1ngular1ty1, on 02/03/2008, -1/+2They are only several centimeters in diameter. WTF are you talking about?
- dienaked, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1I think he is confusing offshore oil/gas/sewer PIPES, which are quite large, with undersea fiber optic cables. Sometimes they do run cables inside the pipes, maybe that's where he is confused at.
- tgc1, on 02/03/2008, -0/+0I'm talking pre-fiber. The copper bundles that went across the sea are ***** HUGE. Look it up. It wouldn't surprise me if those cables were still in use. Not EVERY backbone is fiber.
- Narishma, on 02/03/2008, -1/+3That's why we should be using trucks instead of tubes. Trucks aren't cut that easily.
- Zalyster, on 02/02/2008, -3/+17Cuts? In MY internet tubes?
- EmailAddress, on 02/02/2008, -3/+25nice time to install a sophisticated packet sniffer...
- DivisibleByZero, on 02/02/2008, -2/+6You don't think the ones they already have installed are good enough to get the job done?
- m0tbaillie, on 02/02/2008, -3/+2Do you have any idea what type of processing power, storage, and analytical capability it would take to sift through hundreds of gigabits - maybe even terabits - worth of data per day? Not possible.
- FatLoser, on 02/03/2008, -0/+5They simply ignore all torrent traffic and they're left with about 8MB of ascii to sift through.
- niqhil, on 02/02/2008, -1/+19Only one router is down which belongs to a University in Iran. Most other iranian sites (hosted in iran) are up
http://www.nic.ir
http://www.ahmadinejad.ir- skyshock1, on 02/02/2008, -6/+2How come those sites are in English? Just curious.
- OnymousHero, on 02/02/2008, -2/+16Because most Westerners visiting the site can't understand Farsi?
- skyshock1, on 02/05/2008, -0/+1Are these sites aimed at a Western audience then? I figure with the .ir extension they'd be mainly for Iranians. Strange.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 02/02/2008, -3/+14Propaganda is usually best distributed in the native language of the rube it's intended for.
- OnymousHero, on 02/02/2008, -2/+16Because most Westerners visiting the site can't understand Farsi?
- cigawoot, on 02/02/2008, -0/+12It sees your client language as English and automatically shows a localized version of the page? Its possible for a website to run in multiple langauges without knowing it, because your browser tells the website your language, and the website shows the proper langauge.
- bjornski, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4It's not rocket science.
Though they may or may not be working on that too.- FatLoser, on 02/03/2008, -0/+3It may not be rocket surgery, but it is pretty cool. Though I've got a feeling they're using geotargeting instead of browser cues.
- bjornski, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4It's not rocket science.
- makkaveli19, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4anybody read the comments on ahmadinejads page?
- skyshock1, on 02/02/2008, -6/+2How come those sites are in English? Just curious.
- Hoogie7Dowser, on 02/02/2008, -12/+5The CIA laying groundwork once again.
- satanswetnipple, on 02/02/2008, -1/+3Or Mossad
- Kennerk, on 02/02/2008, -3/+6did anyone else think of Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure?
"Something strange is afoot the Circle K..."
"DUDE!!!!" - digitalarcanum, on 02/02/2008, -0/+8A communications disruption can only mean one thing: invas-
samuel l. jackson: shut the ***** up fat man, this ain't nunya goddamn business. - LongShlong, on 02/02/2008, -2/+3Get ready to start seeing war being waged... I wonder where the first attack is going to come from... Perhaps if we find the 'nation' with communications still running, we'll be one step closer to finding out, Gumeshoes...
- Hangly, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4If I were going to nuke Iran, I would want to make damn sure the photos didn't end up on Flickr.
- domokunt, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2OHHH LORD HAVE MERCY WHEN WILL IT STOP! (Diggers in Iran)
- cageybee, on 02/02/2008, -9/+72i already said earlier that this is done to prevent the inauguration of the iranian oil bourse http://www.energybulletin.net/12125.html and http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=37468§ion ... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Oil_Bourse
- EllieElliott, on 02/02/2008, -15/+308smells fishy
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -18/+1exotically fishy
- WolverineBlue, on 02/02/2008, -20/+8You're right! It makes perfect sense now! Fish live underwater; the cables we're underwater! I call for a global coalition against fish! Ready the subs!
...or at least that's what I would say if I we're in the Bush administration...Marlin sounds an awful lot like Muslim.- kingfoot, on 02/02/2008, -5/+5it was cloverfield...
- CookieTrain, on 02/02/2008, -2/+3http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/INTERNET_OU ...
It's coincidense, it seems. - cap11235, on 02/02/2008, -4/+7That's what she said.
- ICanRead, on 02/02/2008, -1/+14"A communications disruption can mean only one thing - invasion."
- FatLoser, on 02/03/2008, -0/+4You know digg has too much power when I type in a quote somebody just left in a comment and google returns the digg comment page.
- Tyrghast, on 02/02/2008, -1/+6It seems someone is trying to sabotage our tech support!
- justintsmith, on 02/02/2008, -1/+5If you stop and think about it, it is almost unimaginable that 15 years ago nobody even knew what the internet was. Think of how isolated nations were in 1991 compared to now...
- SEMaven, on 02/02/2008, -27/+45I bet they're feeling a little crabby
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -21/+2k
- davidkeithjones, on 02/02/2008, -11/+4its ok all they could get was Iranian Yahoo.
- lex0nyc, on 02/02/2008, -0/+9which is pronounced yeyeyeyeyeyeyeye!
- titlesaysitall, on 02/02/2008, -8/+5It was 300 Spartans!
- Picaroon, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6I can't fathom how this happened
- rojano17, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5I see what you did there...
- fluidfoundation, on 02/02/2008, -36/+9oh noes, yall!
- dOOBiEx213, on 02/02/2008, -1/+5Oh noes is right!!!! Zero internet access can only lead to nuclear warz!
- bianconeri4ever, on 02/02/2008, -69/+132hmmm, sounds like Bush and his minions...
- aceslick911, on 02/02/2008, -21/+6dude. bush did it.
- Ataxia2008, on 02/02/2008, -2/+5Simpsons did it
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -13/+4Bush is actually the 4th (long lost) brother of Diablo.
He is going to feature in the upcoming Diablo MMORPG from blizzard.- warrenterr, on 02/02/2008, -3/+9Lord of Stupidity
- theblt, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4+1 Digg
- iainc, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Diablo would disown him.
- warrenterr, on 02/02/2008, -3/+9Lord of Stupidity
- allan17, on 02/02/2008, -11/+41A ***** car just crashed in Iran - I'm sure Bush is involved in this somehow...
- jackal42, on 02/02/2008, -1/+8yes the driver was probably distracted tuning his BUSH radio
- OnymousHero, on 02/02/2008, -0/+9I'm not so sure - isn't the displaying of bush in public a capital offence in Iran?
- kublerross, on 02/02/2008, -3/+1well he is known for DUI
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 02/02/2008, -2/+8Oh yeah, couldn't be the ayotollah,
- lex0nyc, on 02/02/2008, -1/+3... Fern, Red Tip and The Secret League of Ninja Gardenias?
- Suricou, on 02/02/2008, -5/+11Why? Severing Iran's internet serves no strategic purpose. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a deliberate attack, but I dont think America is behind it. Most likely, in my estimation, would be one of the Islamist groups concerned that those cables are bringing corrupting Western entertainment into their country.
- mCanada, on 02/03/2008, -2/+4Actually destroying their [Iran] internet would serve a vital strategic purpose. In any war / invasion the first targets you hit are media related ie. television stations, radio stations etc. Other infrastructures, water , power are less important than communication in times of war. I'm not saying "Bush did it" but throughout history
influencing the public has been more important than getting water and electricity. If / when Bush does attack Iran I'm sure they'll be analyzing this event. - stupidStan, on 02/03/2008, -0/+2Not a very good strategic move, as i am currently in Kuwait at a US base, and we are very much affected by this outage!
Conspiracy theorists, give it a rest!
- aceslick911, on 02/02/2008, -21/+6dude. bush did it.
- h4ckler, on 02/02/2008, -69/+21Well...here goes Warlord Bush. (soon to be replaced by Warlord Obama?)
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -2/+10You mean Warlord McCain/Clinton?
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -5/+4Hey *****-for-brains, nobody takes out the internet and leaves the phone system up ON PURPOSE.
- lex0nyc, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4Someone who can be stopped by a pretzel might.
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2Haha, touche!
- Troika37, on 02/02/2008, -3/+2Not if he's the same guy who pulled off the greatest conspiracy in the history of the world.
- lex0nyc, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4Wait, what does Elvis have to do with this?
- lex0nyc, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4Someone who can be stopped by a pretzel might.
- ophello, on 02/02/2008, -11/+420Cmon, people, its just a viral campaign for Cloverfield 2
- davidkeithjones, on 02/02/2008, -49/+4HAHAH HIGH FIVER. OMG OMG DID YOU SEE THAT THING IN THE BACKGROUND?!?!?!?! WHATT!!!???? THE MOVIE IS OVER!!!!! WHAAAA ITS STILL ALIVE!!!???? OMG OMG!!!!
- davidkeithjones, on 02/02/2008, -32/+7DIGG ME DOWN!!! I USE THE POWER TO BRING HEATH LEDGER BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!
- GeekyGerge, on 02/02/2008, -1/+29That's a pretty neat skill
- credence, on 02/02/2008, -0/+12Ladies & Gentlemen, this is why you shouldn't drink & digg.
- jinxcy, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6Put the jack daniels down david
- davidkeithjones, on 02/02/2008, -32/+7DIGG ME DOWN!!! I USE THE POWER TO BRING HEATH LEDGER BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!
- shadowsurfr1, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Rather, I think people would go absolutely crazy if everyone started to disconnect and cause total mayhem. No movie means it's real life.
- bingobongony, on 02/02/2008, -2/+3ALREADY this joke is overused and done.
- davidkeithjones, on 02/02/2008, -49/+4HAHAH HIGH FIVER. OMG OMG DID YOU SEE THAT THING IN THE BACKGROUND?!?!?!?! WHATT!!!???? THE MOVIE IS OVER!!!!! WHAAAA ITS STILL ALIVE!!!???? OMG OMG!!!!
- benman587, on 02/02/2008, -2/+62Direct link to BBC article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7222536.stm
- WolverineBlue, on 02/02/2008, -3/+12Thanks, I'm getting really tired of all the blogspam on digg.
- Maluka, on 02/02/2008, -5/+113One site reports "Stranger things have happened. But if there's a fourth cable cut in the Indian Ocean we're calling shenanigans. By whom?
Our best guess: terrorist sharks.
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/02/01/third ...- imnojezus, on 02/02/2008, -0/+35Who sold them the friggin' lasers? I smell conspiracy.
- dannydyer1000, on 02/02/2008, -2/+4Yes. Win.
- iiBeLiEvE, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1Sharks with frickin' laser beams on their frickin' foreheads.
- techeric, on 02/02/2008, -2/+11With frickin' laser beams on their foreheads.
- MetalHead73, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1stranger, stranger, stranger things have happened I know...WOOOOOHHH.
- rojano17, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1EFF YEAH!
- tsos2, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I think it was SEALs, but I could be wrong.
- Apocrypha, on 02/02/2008, -5/+4Definitely (cowardly) Americans. I'd say this was an act of war.
- imnojezus, on 02/02/2008, -0/+35Who sold them the friggin' lasers? I smell conspiracy.
- harlowsmonkeys, on 02/02/2008, -14/+83Well, that's what they get for living on an island. Oh wait...the mideast and india aren't islands. Why does ALL their internet access go through three undersea cables?
- ieataquacrayons, on 02/02/2008, -27/+14Duh, Al Gore invented the internet so it needs to connect to his internet building which is here.......
- riomx, on 02/02/2008, -18/+6That has to be the dumbest ***** thing I've read on Digg
- ieataquacrayons, on 02/02/2008, -1/+12I guess we don't understand sarcasm....
- akatherder, on 02/02/2008, -3/+14Well since it was sarcastic I thought it was funny. Except for the fact that it perpetuates the myth that Gore ever claimed to "invent" the Internet.
- Troika37, on 02/02/2008, -2/+6"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."
--Al Gore
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/ ...
There it is, in Gore's words, on CNN - he claimed he 'created' (which is amazingly similar to 'invented') the internet.- akatherder, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5The often misquoted word "inventing" implies he had something to do with the technical aspects of the Internet. He was only claiming that legislation he proposed and helped pass was important in creating the Internet as a national/global asset. It's another debate entirely whether he was slightly exaggerating or completely blowing his contribution out of his ass, but the fact remains that he never claimed to "invent" anything.
The man regarded as "The Father of the Internet" (Vint Cerf) and Robert Kahn have both been outspoken in defending Al Gore's statement and testifying to Gore's contributions in making the Internet a viable resource instead of some schools connected by a 56k phone line. - lex0nyc, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1You have the right quotation, but the wrong interpretation.
- harlowsmonkeys, on 02/03/2008, -0/+2That's not how Bob Khan and Vinton Cerf (the guys who invented TCP) take Gore's words:
http://www.politechbot.com/p-01394.html
- akatherder, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5The often misquoted word "inventing" implies he had something to do with the technical aspects of the Internet. He was only claiming that legislation he proposed and helped pass was important in creating the Internet as a national/global asset. It's another debate entirely whether he was slightly exaggerating or completely blowing his contribution out of his ass, but the fact remains that he never claimed to "invent" anything.
- Troika37, on 02/02/2008, -2/+6"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."
- lex0nyc, on 02/02/2008, -1/+5Because it was cheaper than it would have been to run the lines over land. Sort of like the difference between having an electrician come in and run lines to new outlets in your house, or just running a extension cord.
- riomx, on 02/02/2008, -18/+6That has to be the dumbest ***** thing I've read on Digg
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -1/+33Laying cable is expensive (hyuck hyuck hyuck). Besides, I can see their logic... "if someone cuts this cable, then we have the backup RIGHT OVER THERE! There's no way someone would cut both, right?? RIGHT??"
- EvilWalksWithMe, on 02/02/2008, -9/+13Because strangely enough, there is probably nothing worth looking at hosted inside of Iran.
- dondara, on 02/02/2008, -3/+12Hot girls in burkas ..oh, NM.
- vertinox, on 02/02/2008, -1/+11Ankle porn FTW!
- dondara, on 02/02/2008, -3/+12Hot girls in burkas ..oh, NM.
- Suricou, on 02/02/2008, -4/+10Because submarine cables are rediculously expensive. Almost as expensive as land cables.
- ieataquacrayons, on 02/02/2008, -27/+14Duh, Al Gore invented the internet so it needs to connect to his internet building which is here.......
- THEROC, on 02/02/2008, -67/+17THE EVUL TERRURIST HAVE STRUCK AGAIN.THEY HIJACKED THREE AIRPLANES AND FLOUGHT THEM INTO UNDERSEE CABLES. ALL THREE CABLES HAVE COLLAPSED.
- ieataquacrayons, on 02/02/2008, -11/+17Tasteless.
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -16/+4No. It had taste, but it was of bad taste.
- Bando, on 02/02/2008, -1/+7Well, I thought it was funny. :p
- ggfobster, on 02/03/2008, -0/+3Me too. :D
- ieataquacrayons, on 02/02/2008, -11/+17Tasteless.
- coffee200am, on 02/02/2008, -44/+13Who cares about Iran? India's the one I'm worried about....Who's going to help me with my Taxes?????
- inigomntoya, on 02/02/2008, -5/+7Hopefully someone from the US...? Just a guess.
- EvilWalksWithMe, on 02/02/2008, -1/+9It is probably making it harder for the US to spy on Iran. Because now there are no emails to intercept, they have to try and get their hands on the post it notes getting handed around.
- Bando, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Intercepting packets would be a bitch. "Can I borrow that postit"..Quickly jots it down, then gives back.
- ApokalypseNow, on 02/02/2008, -1/+8TurboTax.
- coffee200am, on 02/02/2008, -8/+110Internet Current Status
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/asia.htm- LEPT0N, on 02/02/2008, -1/+26um... that site also claims Florida has no internet right now...
- dstz, on 02/02/2008, -1/+9And Germany http://www.internettrafficreport.com/europe.htm
- dondara, on 02/02/2008, -2/+14We should cut off Florida, probably 70% of the spam originates from there.
- DeadFox1, on 02/02/2008, -1/+5damn floridians anyways. ;)
- lex0nyc, on 02/02/2008, -0/+9Florida?! But that's "America's Wang!"
- satanswetnipple, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1lex0nyc
If it is, then it is awfully flaccid.
- BigBallistix, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Like I said on the other story, according to that site Florida was down earlier too. Maybe they still are. double check things before believing them so promptly, k?
- chrispr, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I live in FL, we've had constant connectivity.
lol..
- chrispr, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I live in FL, we've had constant connectivity.
- sugidger, on 02/03/2008, -0/+0Looks like theyre trying to get them back up
http://digg.com/world_news/India_Arab_Countries_St ...
- LEPT0N, on 02/02/2008, -1/+26um... that site also claims Florida has no internet right now...
- coffee200am, on 02/02/2008, -26/+5OMFG!!! It is Bush!
But today the NSA's snooping capabilities are in jeopardy, undermined by advances in telecommunications technology. Much of the information the agency once gleaned from the airwaves now travels in the form of light beams through fiber-optic cables crisscrossing continents and ocean floors. That shift has forced the NSA to seek new ways to gather intelligence--including tapping undersea cables, a technologically daunting, physically dangerous and potentially illegal task.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-529826.html- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5Reasons why nobogy gives a ***** what zdnet says:
1) For a technology magazine, they're almost always about five years behind the curve.
2) See 1
And way to link to a seven year old article that was five years behind the curve. It was irrelevent then, and even moreso now!
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5Reasons why nobogy gives a ***** what zdnet says:
- SniperZero, on 02/02/2008, -16/+26I guess they are going to have to go back to old fashion porn then. Think of the children... we must get this back up.
- xtc46, on 02/02/2008, -1/+19you think of children to get things up?
- SniperZero, on 02/03/2008, -0/+2If i said "so I can get this back up" but unfortunately for you I didn't say that.
- Raphyy, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Woah there! Don't be all public with your stuff...
- davidjunit, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1Provided dad has some porno mags stashed in the closet I think the kids will make it through... UNLESS DAD HAS GRADATED TO INTERNET PORNO!@#
- xtc46, on 02/02/2008, -1/+19you think of children to get things up?
- dupswapdrop, on 02/02/2008, -21/+6This proves that Bush and company are going to nuke Iran! They are cutting the cables so that when the nukes go off the radiation won't get into the Internet and stop Bush from get his emails from Dick.
- ronpaul20008, on 02/02/2008, -15/+4and in that instant - pakistan, israel, and saudi arabia took over the middle east, and bush's peace summit became a success - for the victors anyway.
- supaben34, on 02/02/2008, -14/+4testing... testing.. 1. 2. 3....
- AzBats, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2Are you in Iran or Florida? (see posts above for context)
- ieataquacrayons, on 02/02/2008, -9/+13Sounds like the cables shifted and destroyed the home of one of those creepy deep water fish, and that fish wanted revenge...
- bosssmiley, on 02/02/2008, -0/+12"Do not anger the Deep Ones!"
- colonelbuckshot, on 02/02/2008, -19/+3OWNED
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -4/+1PWNED
- jackal42, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2PWND
- digitalarcanum, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO YOUR FOREHEAD.
- iChainsaw, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO YOUR FOREHEAD.
- jackal42, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2PWND
- csw1342, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1The ***** is wrong with you people.
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -4/+1PWNED
- crashbang, on 02/02/2008, -7/+80I find it concerning that there is no more specific information as to why three of these cable have been suddenly incapcitated than " a ship's anchor did it." Hmmmm
- tastypaste, on 02/02/2008, -2/+26Maybe it's just one boat with a drunk captain sailing around the ocean with his anchor down? I remember another drunk captain who didn't see Alaska in front of him and ran into it, spilling tons of oil everywhere.
- Hosalabad, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Haha, that comment really made me crack up.
- bingobongony, on 02/02/2008, -5/+2If that is what it was...what else WOULD you expect them to say? That is all the information that would be needed to be given to you.
Of course, you would rather go through your pathetlc sorry ass life thinking that everything is a conspiracy. I guess that is OK, as long as you don't intend of living a nice life.- Somnolent, on 02/03/2008, -0/+0When you read your post, can you actually understand it, or is it gibberish to you too?
- tastypaste, on 02/02/2008, -2/+26Maybe it's just one boat with a drunk captain sailing around the ocean with his anchor down? I remember another drunk captain who didn't see Alaska in front of him and ran into it, spilling tons of oil everywhere.
- AriaStar, on 02/02/2008, -7/+171Will someone PLEASE think of the porn?!
- harriman714, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6they can just watch the tv show Charmed
- Ataxia2008, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4Smallville serves it's purpose as well
- standsolid, on 02/02/2008, -1/+9http://www.cgl.uwaterloo.ca/~csk/its.html
- edein, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Thanks the link. Its very informative.
- standsolid, on 02/02/2008, -1/+9http://www.cgl.uwaterloo.ca/~csk/its.html
- Ataxia2008, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4Smallville serves it's purpose as well
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -2/+8Iran 101. It is against the koran and against the law to view pornography in Iran.
- rficwizard, on 02/02/2008, -0/+10When did that ever stop anybody?
- Zalyster, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1So that doesn't include sex?
- senatorpjt, on 02/02/2008, -0/+7It's against the law in the US to download unlicensed music.
- makkaveli19, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1***** that, i watched all the porn i wanted in Iran. good times!
- DarkDx, on 02/02/2008, -2/+5Will somenone PLEASE think of the (asian) hentai porn???
- skyshock1, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5Red Hot Burqa Action!
- fuzzmeister, on 02/02/2008, -0/+11As one who runs a proxy, I can confidently say: the Iranians like their porn just as much as any other country.
- stackered, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Ohh yeah look at that hot ankle, oh baby lemme see that arm.
- harriman714, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6they can just watch the tv show Charmed
- Fawkes, on 02/02/2008, -3/+51Well that explains why I can't talk to Joshua... Ah well, anyone for a game of chess?
- rzurad, on 02/02/2008, -1/+10Later. Let's play Global Thermonuclear War.
- iChainsaw, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Do you want to play a game?
- sinn98, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3You deserve more diggs for a reference like that. Digg users are too young to get it :(
- MasterGrief, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I admit, I am too young to have seen WarGames when it first came out, and I only got the reference with a quick Google/Wikipedia search, but I found some rather unpleasant news in the article that was actually about WarGames-- In November of 2006, work was begun on, surprise, a sequel.
To digress from the topic further, apparently it features a young hacker up against a government supercomputer named Ripley.
Now that that bit of uselessness is out of the way, I'm done, and I'm digging both you and the originator of the reference.- Apoc, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Ripley. Reminds me of the red mold from Stephen King's Dreamcatcher.
- MasterGrief, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I admit, I am too young to have seen WarGames when it first came out, and I only got the reference with a quick Google/Wikipedia search, but I found some rather unpleasant news in the article that was actually about WarGames-- In November of 2006, work was begun on, surprise, a sequel.
- tcpip4lyfe, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I need to see that again. A classic.
- TheColonel, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Wow, and here i am seeing a Pretender episode reference :)
- rzurad, on 02/02/2008, -1/+10Later. Let's play Global Thermonuclear War.
- syxle, on 02/02/2008, -18/+5It's all a COINCIDENCE.
Ships anchors cut the boats.
YEH.- syxle, on 02/02/2008, -9/+8Lol "boats"
Meant to say CABLES.
xD
- syxle, on 02/02/2008, -9/+8Lol "boats"
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -10/+45I'd be pissed if i was an Iranian. No counter-strike, no digg, no msn, no mininova.org, no youtube, no break.com
wtf would i do with my spare time ?! =(- bosssmiley, on 02/02/2008, -7/+57March about in the streets chanting "Death to America" like they did back in the 1980s probably...
- diggcensors, on 02/02/2008, -5/+30your hand
- redxii, on 02/02/2008, -18/+8Practice defusing the bombs IRL. Mid-easterners laugh at "Counter-Strike".
- WolverineBlue, on 02/02/2008, -0/+8Huh, I wonder if the Revolutionary Guard ever even plays as CT.
- dondara, on 02/02/2008, -0/+9Nah, 12 year old aimbot cheaters drove them away long ago.
- WolverineBlue, on 02/02/2008, -0/+8Huh, I wonder if the Revolutionary Guard ever even plays as CT.
- frogsgowhoyah, on 02/02/2008, -6/+10pretty sure they werent aloud any of that beforehand. Its more like no more koran websites, no more death to america websites, no more Call of Duty 5: Stone the infidel.
- makkaveli19, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2get your head out of your ass buddy. i played CS in Iran, watched porn, checked my facebook account and went on msn.
- frogsgowhoyah, on 02/03/2008, -0/+0Uh...were you a regular iranian citizen? No? Then you probably had privileges that everyone else did not. Pretty sure most of that ***** is banned.
- makkaveli19, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2get your head out of your ass buddy. i played CS in Iran, watched porn, checked my facebook account and went on msn.
- aguitarhero, on 02/02/2008, -0/+30Approach girls.
- vertinox, on 02/02/2008, -0/+9And then get beaten with a club by the morality police.
- Frnnkdlxx, on 02/02/2008, -2/+7Wtf is a counter-strike or break.com?
- popltree2, on 02/03/2008, -0/+4Read a book.
- DeepFriedFetus, on 02/03/2008, -0/+2You would fight the infidels that are a threat to the glorious Allah!
- MuletTheGreat, on 02/02/2008, -27/+12Iran? They wernt using it anyway.
- Scarfy, on 02/02/2008, -3/+4I guess you would know.
- gcnaddict, on 02/02/2008, -2/+6As an Iranian, I am insulted.
Oh, and I know a few people with illegal full duplex satellite connections. They're still online :P
- Bonekhan, on 02/02/2008, -11/+73I'd be pissed if I was an Iranian, but not because of the no internet access.
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -17/+2?
- Ataxia2008, on 02/02/2008, -1/+15lol
- wizzpig1337, on 02/02/2008, -17/+2?
- ASSASSYN360, on 02/02/2008, -4/+88That is what happens when you miss two payments.
- spyd3rweb, on 02/02/2008, -11/+2621 cable = accident
2 cables = possible accident
3 cables = deliberately sabotaged- Lane, on 02/02/2008, -3/+654 cables = OMFG That one was like totally secret!
- iPissExcellence, on 02/02/2008, -0/+16- You told them about our secret third cable?!
- Yeah, sorry it just slipped out.
- Well, great, why don't you go ahead and tell them about our super secret fourth cable too, so they can take down our internet for real.
- Yes sir. *phone call* Hey, its me again. Remember I told you about the secret third cable. Well we actually have a..
- THAT WAS SARCASM! I WAS BEING SARCASTIC YOU F**KING IDIOT!!- adamrgolf, on 02/02/2008, -4/+1I piss pee.
- iPissExcellence, on 02/02/2008, -0/+16- You told them about our secret third cable?!
- BigBallistix, on 02/02/2008, -1/+80There's an old saying; A coincidence is remarkable, but a coincidence of coincidences is a conspiracy.
- ShnowDoggie, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4Course 2 the cables may be right next to each other. The 3rd experiencing super high usage once the first 2 went out. (Could it be that it was already damaged but had some working capacity?) Could be #3 deliberately sabotaged, but we are still at step #2 possible accident.
- localzuk, on 02/02/2008, -0/+14A fibre optic cable can't have 'some working capacity'. It is either working or not.
- Thisistooboring, on 02/02/2008, -4/+2Yea, because it's a single 5" diameter strand, right? Dumbass.
- localzuk, on 02/02/2008, -1/+3No, because a break in a cable can't be partial - the fibre's are bundled together in such a way that a 'break' would affect all or none. Also, the actual width of the bundle of fibre's is more like an inch not 5" - most of the bulk is made up by the protective shielding around it. Something that could get through 2 layers of copper strands and a copper sheet would simply get through the lot.
Finally, the other thing to remember is that if there was any damage to the cable - it would have been spotted instantly by loss of connection.
- localzuk, on 02/02/2008, -1/+3No, because a break in a cable can't be partial - the fibre's are bundled together in such a way that a 'break' would affect all or none. Also, the actual width of the bundle of fibre's is more like an inch not 5" - most of the bulk is made up by the protective shielding around it. Something that could get through 2 layers of copper strands and a copper sheet would simply get through the lot.
- Thisistooboring, on 02/02/2008, -4/+2Yea, because it's a single 5" diameter strand, right? Dumbass.
- DakkonA, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Fiber optic cables don't experience wear and tear from the light passing through them... its just light!
- ShnowDoggie, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1OK - how can fiber optic cable have partial capacity?
A: Yes it is bundled. That is internal, and there could even be more than one cable (external). I have idea what the oversea standards are. It could vary a lot.
B: There may be an alternative path that can be use if there is a complete break. With the right monitoring this would be picked up immediately. But who knows what they have set up. The alternate path may have been in use for a long time and no one noticed. I see this on smaller systems a lot.
C: I am sure there are other reasons- BuckQJohnson, on 02/05/2008, -0/+0ShnowDoggie needs to know that if there is a capacity issue, it would be at the facility that changes the light signals to electrical then back to light signals. We still don't have pure optical systems that will be totally light usage, we still need the electrical switches. Once the line is cut, how many of the fiber optic lines in the bundle that are damaged are instantly considered off. It's an all or nothing thing with fiber optics, not like with electrical where there may be some conduction.
And for all of these thick cable bundles to be cut with in a matter of days, tells me something else is going on. What are the odds that another ship would have done the same thing in another part of the ocean. I believe it has everything to do with the Iranian Oil Bourse, because for one those lines didn't go through the US or the UK it went to other middleeastern countries and also India. That means WE in the US and the UK wouldn't have any control of whats going on until the orders and such hit the main world markets. Also instead of UK and US having some control over the US dollar in regard to currency manipulation, the dollar would show it's real value on the world market via the Iranian Bourse.
So the Iranian Bourse opens taking only Yen and Euros for payment of there oil. Not just japan or Europe, but other countries outside the EU start to see the deal they will get buy buying in these currencies, so they start to buy. But in order to buy they need to exchange petrodollars for euros, so they start to place orders to exchange them on the open market. Once this start to happen and traders see billions of dollars weekly being exchanged for either Yen or Euros, what happens? Depending on what position you take, the dollar is going down against the euro or the euro is going up against the dollar (same thing). Soon you see 2 dollars 3 dollars 4 dollars 5 dollars etc. to the euro and same for the Yen (instead of 107 yen to the dollar it may be 30 yen to the dollar). We will see the Yen carry trade fall on its head.
They don't want to competition on the petrodollar front especially with the american economy in trouble right now. You can say many of the Central banks around the world holding 100's of billions of dollars wouldn't like there horde to be suddenly worth a quarter or less it's present value, they may not have a choice. The only deal that China and some of the other countries holding large hordes of dollars would be to get a contracted set price from Iran for a length of time, but even then that is dangerous. Because once there is blood in the water in regard to the dollar, it will be a stampede to the gates on who will get rid of theres the fastest, and remember somebody would have to want them.
- BuckQJohnson, on 02/05/2008, -0/+0ShnowDoggie needs to know that if there is a capacity issue, it would be at the facility that changes the light signals to electrical then back to light signals. We still don't have pure optical systems that will be totally light usage, we still need the electrical switches. Once the line is cut, how many of the fiber optic lines in the bundle that are damaged are instantly considered off. It's an all or nothing thing with fiber optics, not like with electrical where there may be some conduction.
- localzuk, on 02/02/2008, -0/+14A fibre optic cable can't have 'some working capacity'. It is either working or not.
- gak001, on 02/02/2008, -1/+22I believe it was SIr Winston Churchill who said something to the effect of Once is happenstance, Twice is coincidence, the third time it's enemy action. Auric Goldfinger may have said it too.
- bingobongony, on 02/02/2008, -7/+3Give me a ***** break. If you are going to allow for one being an accident, then anyone with common sense would also allow for a second, seing as they are RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. The same accident could EASILY cut/damage mre than one cable.
- spyd3rweb, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6cite your source for being right next to each other.
- georgemason01, on 02/02/2008, -0/+64 cables = profit
- Proctor, on 02/03/2008, -1/+11 cable = accident
2nd cable = possible accident
3rd cable 3 days later = deliberately sabotaged - kokodhem, on 02/03/2008, -0/+0For those of us waiting for a precursor to war: http://digg.com/politics/Pentagon_The_internet_is_ ...
- Scottievm, on 02/15/2008, -0/+2You were quoted in The Economist. Congratulations.
http://www.economist.com/world/international/displ ...
- Lane, on 02/02/2008, -3/+654 cables = OMFG That one was like totally secret!
- gds923, on 02/02/2008, -13/+64Folks, this is bad news, and is in no way a benefit to the Bush administration. The best chance we have to fight terrorism in the middle east is through the free spread of information.
- samssf, on 02/02/2008, -7/+27Bush doesn't want to fight terrorism diplomatically. He wants it to be enough of a threat that we can send troops and go to war.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 02/02/2008, -2/+9Dude, he's out in less than a year, you should start working on finding a new hobby before he's gone for good.
- tingrin87, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5[Clinton|Romney|Huckabee|Obama|Gravel|Keyes|McCain|Paul] doesn't want to fight terrorism diplomatically. [He|She] wants it to be enough of a threat that we can send troops and go to war.
- floatingpoints, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2This is my generic reply which also fails to make a point. I hope I get dugg up too.
- credence, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3tingrin87: you left out the option It for Hillary in the second []s
- tingrin87, on 02/02/2008, -0/+5[Clinton|Romney|Huckabee|Obama|Gravel|Keyes|McCain|Paul] doesn't want to fight terrorism diplomatically. [He|She] wants it to be enough of a threat that we can send troops and go to war.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 02/02/2008, -2/+9Dude, he's out in less than a year, you should start working on finding a new hobby before he's gone for good.
- dondara, on 02/02/2008, -6/+8There's no money in diplomacy only in weapon sales. Follow the money silly rabbit. Those houses in the Hamptons and gulfstream jets don't pay for themselves. We got death for sale, get yours today!
- TomRitchford, on 02/02/2008, -3/+4This is why it's so sad that Bush has deliberately singled out journalists, particularly Arab journalists, as targets for attack.
- kronix2, on 02/02/2008, -4/+7What does Iran have to do with terrorism? Most terrorists in the world are Saudi and other Arabs, Afghan or Pakistani.
- tingrin87, on 02/02/2008, -1/+5[citation needed]
- scubajim, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Iran is supplying funds,training, and arms to the others. So that is support of terrorism. You may well be correct that they aren't Iranian sending people to do the actual terrorism, but they are supplying all the other parts.
- senatorpjt, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1Hey, I live in NY, I wish I could download a gun from Iran.
- kilgoretrout88, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1If that's your criteria, then the USA and UK and several other nations are just as guilty as Iran. But really, why are you saying this? Did somebody you trust tell you this? Did this person have any reason to lie? Does this person particularly dislike Iran? Because I'm feeling some powerful vendetta vibes resonating from the brain-dead section of America right now. And the words you are saying are lies.
- solid12345, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4Hezbollah, read about them.
- satanswetnipple, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1Have and they are generally a good organisation. Well they shine head and shoulders above the Israeli government. Jews firing American rockets from American planes and helicopters at innocent civilian populations, and firing M16 rounds into the skulls of little schoolgirls does not exclude jews from the label "terrorist organisation". The older I get, the more I see jews do, the more I am convinced that Hitler had something there. Though if you really look at history, the WORLD was happy to see the end of the jews. WWII was not fought to save jews, the jews were just a convenient propaganda story at the end of the war.
- kokodhem, on 02/03/2008, -0/+0I agree, but the Pentagon doesn't: http://digg.com/politics/Pentagon_The_internet_is_ ...
- samssf, on 02/02/2008, -7/+27Bush doesn't want to fight terrorism diplomatically. He wants it to be enough of a threat that we can send troops and go to war.
- colonels1020, on 02/02/2008, -13/+3LOL PWNED!
- surfff, on 02/02/2008, -2/+47based off those graphs, FLORIDA also has no internet. i doubt that... http://www.internettrafficreport.com/history/111.h ...
- powatom, on 02/02/2008, -1/+15Germany and parts of Africa, too.
- zcreem, on 02/02/2008, -1/+6So you don't see this reply from Berlin then?
- iChainsaw, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1nope.
- zcreem, on 02/02/2008, -1/+6So you don't see this reply from Berlin then?
- Swarms, on 02/02/2008, -1/+45Writing this from Florida, I doubt that, too.
- billbillbilly, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2i dugg you up from florida so im here too
- Maynza, on 02/02/2008, -0/+8I'm in florida, it sucks, I have to send my packets by carrier pigeon.
- Mikejoneswho5, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6It must be the old people...
(florida reporting in) - BigBallistix, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Thankyou! I found that out when the other sea cable thread was posted. Some people will believe anything. Good to see not everyone is one of them.
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2Thank God; we need to kick all those snow bunnies off our internet! They're invading Digg!
- Trollmaster, on 02/02/2008, -3/+1Florida doesn't have internet access too... oh the humanity
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm - bingobongony, on 02/02/2008, -1/+3They did that this past week to keep people from learning about Ron Paul before the primary! You just watch! I bet all the Super Tuesday states iwll mysteriously lose internet on Monday and Tuesday of this week! More of hte main stream media trying to keep a good man down!
- powatom, on 02/02/2008, -1/+15Germany and parts of Africa, too.
- Khast, on 02/02/2008, -2/+8Coincidence? I think not. Now the Iranians can't keep an eye on Digg for their news.
- dwalk51, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1Nice! USA FTW!!!
- Gman3D, on 02/02/2008, -13/+6Notice how the big news isn't even mentioning this? Nothing on CNN, Fox or MSNBC pages.
I took my tin hat off long ago but I firmly believe this administration is up to no good in this last year. - tensvb, on 02/02/2008, -6/+12I think I know who did it:
http://tinyurl.com/244dos- MrBismarck, on 02/02/2008, -9/+4I think not. Clearly it was this guy : http://tinyurl.com/ywt9fv
- BartS, on 02/02/2008, -0/+9For Gods sake stop it.
This stupid rick roll ***** isn't funny anymore, it's just plain annoying.- adamrgolf, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3but will it blend?
- BartS, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Rhaaaa
*Freaks out*
- BartS, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Rhaaaa
- adamrgolf, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3but will it blend?
- brutusx, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Second time today *****. I'm singing this ***** in my sleep. Stop it! Just goatse me.
- BartS, on 02/02/2008, -0/+9For Gods sake stop it.
- cambob76, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4Mike Myers doesn't look so well these days.
- scy1192, on 02/02/2008, -1/+0http://youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
- MrBismarck, on 02/02/2008, -9/+4I think not. Clearly it was this guy : http://tinyurl.com/ywt9fv
- Mr.Gone, on 02/02/2008, -6/+10Dammit, how am I supposed to read www.diggiran.com!
- neiltc13, on 02/02/2008, -10/+6Should have cut the ones that go to the USA and set up a proper democratic internet.
- jazzboyrules, on 02/02/2008, -3/+33traditional war, cold war, bio war,... e-war
- ZenMojo, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1TekWar?
- doshindude, on 02/03/2008, -0/+21337W4R
- MrFlesh, on 02/02/2008, -5/+82Three cables cut from "anchor dragging" That's not what anchors are used for and is not common.
1. severely impacts ability to move
2. will damage anchor
3. could lose anchor
Under sea cables are marked by buoys on the surface in shallow waters and captains know to be careful in the area because cutting on of these with your anchor would get a captain fired.- branjb, on 02/02/2008, -29/+2Thanks for that Mr. Boat expert.
- stillasleep00, on 02/02/2008, -1/+20No, really, thanks. That actually was valuable information.
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -15/+7Wait, dragging your anchor impacts your ability to move!??????!?!?!?
Running a tanker aground and spilling a few billion gallons of crude will also get you fired BUT THAT HAPPENS TOO! (Exxon Valdez, anyone?)- BeyondGoodNEvil, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2Did you know that Exxon lost lawsuits against at least 1 person for their drinking problem, which was probably why they were lenient with the captain of the Valdez, out of fear of ***** frivolous PC liberal lawsuits.
- bingobongony, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Who said it was common?
- donjuan571, on 02/04/2008, -0/+1They have video tape of the waterfront where the cable was, and there was no ship, for 24 hours that crossed over top the cable. So no, an anchor did not do this.
- branjb, on 02/02/2008, -29/+2Thanks for that Mr. Boat expert.
- borez, on 02/02/2008, -7/+7I cry foul!
- borez, on 02/02/2008, -7/+2I cry foul play!
Damn it: can't this thing stop timing out whilst I'm making a cup of tea?
- borez, on 02/02/2008, -7/+2I cry foul play!
- s0ldad0, on 02/02/2008, -8/+13Maybe Iran is making sure Bush cant get into their business?
- digihoffa, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2uhh what?
- floatingpoints, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2He said "Maybe Iran is making sure Bush cant get into their business?"
- scubajim, on 02/02/2008, -2/+4Maybe Iran is making sure their people are cut off from outside news so they can feed their propaganda to them. (I don't have anything against the Iranian people, their government is a different matter)
- overtoke, on 02/02/2008, -4/+2You're a moron.
- digihoffa, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2uhh what?
- notjamt9000, on 02/02/2008, -3/+30I guess there's always satellite internet access
- bran6don, on 02/02/2008, -7/+3Satellites are only used for downstream traffic. You still need a land line for moving data upstream.
- digitalarcanum, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2which is about as fast as making carrier pidgeons send 0's and 1's.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2DIRECTV Internet sucks, but IP over Avian Carriers is ridiculously bad. Check out this latency and packet loss!
Script started on Sat Apr 28 11:24:09 2001
vegard@gyversalen:~$ /sbin/ifconfig tun0
tun0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
inet addr:10.0.3.2 P-t-P:10.0.3.1 Mask:255.255.255.255
UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:150 Metric:1
RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0
RX bytes:88 (88.0 b) TX bytes:168 (168.0 b)
vegard@gyversalen:~$ ping -i 900 10.0.3.1
PING 10.0.3.1 (10.0.3.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 10.0.3.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=6165731.1 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.3.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=3211900.8 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.3.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=5124922.8 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.3.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=6388671.9 ms
--- 10.0.3.1 ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 55% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 3211900.8/5222806.6/6388671.9 ms
vegard@gyversalen:~$ exit
Script done on Sat Apr 28 14:14:28 2001
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2DIRECTV Internet sucks, but IP over Avian Carriers is ridiculously bad. Check out this latency and packet loss!
- Prodigyman, on 02/02/2008, -1/+6Uhhh WHAT? Satellite can be used for both up stream and Downstream traffic. I work for broadband Satellite ISP, only thing is latency is about 600 ms but u can use it anywhere in the world... Hughes.net provides it anywhere for example and it's US based.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 02/02/2008, -1/+7Maybe your mommy's DIRECTV Internet works that way, but in the grownup world satellites have been capable of 2-way data communications for over 40 years.
- DemonWasp, on 02/03/2008, -0/+3It's fairly easy to prove that satellite connections MUST have an upstream capacity:
1. User wants to view website.
2. User enters URL into browser.
3. Computer requests URL from Interwebs (omg upload used here!)
4. Internets responds with pictures of a random kitten. - grovest4life, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Now how do you send information downstream through a satellite if information isn't first sent upstream.
- digitalarcanum, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2which is about as fast as making carrier pidgeons send 0's and 1's.
- bran6don, on 02/02/2008, -7/+3Satellites are only used for downstream traffic. You still need a land line for moving data upstream.
- cigawoot, on 02/02/2008, -7/+20Something is afoot here. It seems like these might be purposeful, or at least this one. What are the odds of 3 cables getting cut within a few days of each other?
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -11/+2Yes, let's take down the internet BUT LEAVE THE PHONES UP.
***** clueless idiots! Think before you spew your kindergarden rhetoric!- DarkDx, on 02/02/2008, -5/+3Oh yeah.. because you're gonna get the REAL news (not mainstream *****) via a phone call.... hmmm
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -4/+5Phones worked for an entire century giving out the real news, and before that, the telegraph. If you cobble two phone lines together, you can even use one of those crappy video phones like they did in iraq!
Another ABSOLUTELY ***** CLUELESS kindergardener! Life goes on without the internet; walk outside and find out sometime! - whyufail, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Your insults, they need much more variety. Because your vocabulary right now is very reminiscent of a.....no...its too easy.
- satanswetnipple, on 02/02/2008, -0/+0TheKorn2
I believe you need to go back to debating whether Superman can be hurt by a Lightsabre. That seems the limit of your intellectual abilities. The world is different to what it was in 1901. Back then wars were still fought on horseback (trench warfare had not become prevalent). People believed what was written in newspapers and nations volunteered to fight for Empires on little to no proof. Vietnam became unpopular, but it was widely believed the tipping point was a single photo of an execution. This is where the media became more powerful than the governments who fight the wars. Since then warmongering governments have spent a lot of money and time rigging the way the media and other information sources can deliver the news to the public. You will find today that a small group can be moved by information delivered by text, but for popular opinion to turn against a government, the population needs to see atrocities in action. The children with their brains hanging out of their skulls, the dead eyes of a pregnant woman.
Cut the bandwidth back and the live video feeds from Iran disappear off the news channels.
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -4/+5Phones worked for an entire century giving out the real news, and before that, the telegraph. If you cobble two phone lines together, you can even use one of those crappy video phones like they did in iraq!
- cigawoot, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2What was the purpose of your rant? Calling me an idiot for saying something seemed suspicious doesn't give you much credibility when you can't say why it isn't suspicious. And saying phones were left uncut isn't a valid argument. Before you reply, think before you type.
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1My purpose was to show the ABSOLUTE STUPIDITY of your comment!
Why the cable cuts *aren't* suspicious is because even if you assume there is a "they" at work, "they" LEFT OTHER FORMS OF COMMUNICATION (i.e. the phone) untouched!
LEARN YOUR HISTORY!! If something was *really* going on, you'd have a complete *blackout*. NO phones, NO short wave radio, NO cell phones, NO TV, *NOTHING* would be getting out. Think North Korea, but better. Shutting down youtube doesn't do a DAMN thing when there are other methods of communication available.
Just having some cables cut (especially when two of them are SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER) doesn't make a conspiracy. A bad day, yes. A conspiracy, no. Moron. - ediblepet, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Well, it's definitely true that someone is having a bad day. (Meant to reply to TheKorn)
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1My purpose was to show the ABSOLUTE STUPIDITY of your comment!
- hhmmm, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1It's kindergarTen... but a genius like you would know that wouldn't you.
- overtoke, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1The "Korn" - look how STUPID you are
- DarkDx, on 02/02/2008, -5/+3Oh yeah.. because you're gonna get the REAL news (not mainstream *****) via a phone call.... hmmm
- Apocrypha, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I'd say they'd have to be slim to none.
- TheKorn2, on 02/02/2008, -11/+2Yes, let's take down the internet BUT LEAVE THE PHONES UP.
- Erich100, on 02/02/2008, -5/+244The CIA finally got the right one.
- CustomComputers, on 02/02/2008, -10/+2YEP....US JOBS EXPORTED DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IN THE TECH. WORLD HAVE LOST THEIR CONNECTION!!!! LMAO!
- trp5023, on 02/02/2008, -2/+16*SNIP* Oh crap, that was Dubai... *Snip* Singapore, sir DAMMIT! *Snip* Tehran is offline.... Mission Accomplished, now let's bolt!
- sluddy, on 02/02/2008, -5/+2pretty much what the original comment said, only not as funny...
- skreload, on 02/02/2008, -0/+8I'd hate to be in their bomb squad
- cnldelta, on 02/02/2008, -9/+10First Al Qaeeda says their master plan of draining the US economy is a success and now the US strikes back by starting to cut off the internet from every country that could be harboring the Al Qaeeda?
- Storm9, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Don't think India is harboring Al Qaeda. Neither is Western Europe or South East Asia.
- rhino369, on 02/02/2008, -2/+5Well Iran is a shiite nation, and Al Qaeda is a sunni organization so Iran wouldn't help Al Qaeda. But the Bush admin is very stupid or just doesn't care about the truth, so its possible.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 02/02/2008, -3/+2Suggest you do a little more research there...
- boombye, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1yeah like the persians or kurds really get along with their assyrian or iraqi neighbors...they talk ***** to each other all the time.
- boombye, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3i dont know, but arab fanaticals and persian or kurdish people talk ***** about each other all the time... i remember in school we used to pick on this iranian kid, me and some muslim kids, he was a cool kid, i eventually started treating him better, we were all young... but yeah the iraqi kids or assyrians that came here from iraq would always call the muslim kids hindu or ghandi or some slur that made no sense cuz these are muslim kids they're talkin to not indian kids...my asian friends get mixed up for races that they're not by caucasian people all the time, and then some of them will draw connections between nations or groups of people that wouldn't even have anything to do with each other........ they're still plenty of americans who think chinese and japanese people are the same or can't even tell the difference and don't care to know or learn about those cultures...
if the religion is shared, it doesn't mean they get along with each other... how many different christian sects compete with each other, or what about protestants and catholics having different views...
don't recall any of the assyrian or iraqi or lebanon kids i knew ever hanging out with saudi or pakistani kids while i was growing up, of course if i tell someone from the middle of no where that gets no exposure to hanging with people of different cultures or living in neighborhoods where everyone is of a different culture or something, i'm sure it'd be easy to convice him that all middle easterners and even central asians are the same, because some people don't know better.... and sometimes their research proves us who know better otherwise...
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 02/02/2008, -3/+2Suggest you do a little more research there...
- kokodhem, on 02/03/2008, -0/+0Or, this is a good way to keep YouTube from showing the atrocities if there should be a military invasion...
- Sogui, on 02/02/2008, -19/+10God does this kind of stuff just to f@#! with conspiracy theorists
- ep53, on 02/02/2008, -7/+7Now is time for George Dubbyah to attack, they will have no clue what happened
/Sarcasm- daizaru, on 02/02/2008, -3/+2More like, We will have no clue of what happened.
- SupaDawg, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2I know it's pretty tinfoil hat-ified... but this is a whole lot of downed cables in one week. Smells a bit odd to me. What are the odds that a single cable gets cut? let along 3 or 4.
- BrianCarlstrom, on 02/02/2008, -4/+15A communications disruption could mean only one thing: invasion.
- DruSam, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6Hah, typical that a reference to The Phantom Menace gets dugg down. Even digg geeks hate that movie.
- insllvn, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Especially geeks hate that movie.
- DruSam, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6Hah, typical that a reference to The Phantom Menace gets dugg down. Even digg geeks hate that movie.
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