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- punkisnotdead, on 11/18/2008, -45/+32Suck a dick, World Net Daily!
- dmzrn, on 11/18/2008, -23/+18First you "push fudge", then this. Your mother must be so proud.
- Navigator7, on 11/18/2008, -19/+16When you Digg this Sodomite down, click the "Report Abuse" button.
First copy and paste your work because Digg deletes it.
I took a screen shot.
Keep in mind ... It may be you who is banned for "infringing" on punkisnotdead's right to free speech.- USArugula, on 11/19/2008, -9/+23Um, there's no abuse there. Digg allows profanity and even offers a handy profanity filter for those who don't like it.
- paintgrl, on 11/19/2008, -12/+7You Sir Or Madam are an Ass Hat and have obviously never read the TOS for digg.
Hate speech is not suggesting a sexual act nor would it ever be considered an infringement of free speech. It is an opinion and is allowed on Digg.
So suck a dick. - KJeffV, on 11/19/2008, -2/+10You evidently have not paid attention to Digg's actual enforcement history.
- Navigator7, on 11/19/2008, -1/+8KJeffV,
You got that right!
You can be as foul and disgusting as you are capable as long as your venom is directed in the Left PC direction. Say ... pro gay.
However, simply debating a sodomite without expletives ... only a morals and values position is grounds for a Digg holiday.
Quite amazing!
- Navigator7, on 11/19/2008, -20/+11When you Digg this Sodomite down, click the "Report Abuse" button.
First copy and paste your work because Digg deletes it.
I took a screen shot.
Keep in mind ... It may be you who is banned for "infringing" on punkisnotdead's right to free speech.- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -11/+15Aw, is somebody still sore from their little Digg "vacation"? Careful, now, we wouldn't want to violate any terms of use... again.
- ironhide, on 11/19/2008, -7/+14Not only is profanity allowed - punkisnotdead isn't even directing his comment at anyone on Digg. If you report him you're abusing the system.
- 4wheel, on 11/19/2008, -3/+4And now, a word from Punki Snot Dead...
- deportobama, on 11/18/2008, -26/+23
- jm7strick, on 11/18/2008, -10/+16I went to a gay parade once in Dallas, Tx. I have never seen so much self loathing self hatred. Hate the act not the person. You may have a son or daughter someday who is gay and all you can do is love them and accept them and pray for them. My son came out of that lifestyle after 15 years and is now very well adjusted attending church and dating a wonderful girl.
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -6/+2That's cool, jm7strick.
- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -2/+7Sure he is. Congratulations on using your filthy idea of morals to ruin your son's life.
- MediaWeasel, on 11/19/2008, -2/+5Oh so it's the son you love and support and accept and pray for whilst all the time calling him a filthy sodomite.
LOVely. Very Christian of you. *applause*
- thejimmyo, on 11/19/2008, -2/+12"The filthy sodomites are worthy of being horsewhipped"
Your vitriol sounds kinda ... gay. Also, very angry. - thepoliticalcat, on 11/19/2008, -3/+11Are you sure you're not a closet queen? Or into S&M? Because most people who don't have those, um, deep-rooted inclinations really don't pay much attention to what other people do. Whereas you seem to have a pretty unhealthy level of curiousity. Remember, if you need help, it's better to just come out of the closet and talk to your therapist or your local LGBTQ organisations. They can put you in touch with someone who will understand.
- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -2/+10You seem to really be into horsewhipping.
http://digg.com/politics/Obama_donor_ordered_Big_B ...
http://digg.com/world_news/LIBERALS_POLL_AGAINST_F ...
Perhaps there's some sado-masochistic fantasy you need to work out?
- jm7strick, on 11/18/2008, -10/+16I went to a gay parade once in Dallas, Tx. I have never seen so much self loathing self hatred. Hate the act not the person. You may have a son or daughter someday who is gay and all you can do is love them and accept them and pray for them. My son came out of that lifestyle after 15 years and is now very well adjusted attending church and dating a wonderful girl.
- creol, on 11/18/2008, -26/+47First the Mormon Temples are protested vandalized and closed. Now this?? What the heck. Even the Christians were being civil and actually trying to show love toward the people thretenting their lives.
Wow i'm reallty disappointed SF GLTC! You will never gain acceptance with this type of action.- Salesti, on 11/18/2008, -15/+22That's what I don't get.....so many non-straight folks are just out there living their lives like the *straight* folks (paying taxes, going to college, working, etc.), and then these gangs of rabid mutants swarm all over the humans in an orgy of hate, foaming at the mouth, and....expecting they'll receive acceptance and respect? WHAT????!
- Navigator7, on 11/19/2008, -13/+24Isn't "an orgy of hate, foaming at the mouth" etc what liberalism has been promoting?
It is, after all, the byproduct of a misspent life. - Salesti, on 11/20/2008, -1/+1Yup. Only extreme and exclusive self-interest could inspire a person (or a mob) to think they'll get love from hate.
- Navigator7, on 11/19/2008, -13/+24Isn't "an orgy of hate, foaming at the mouth" etc what liberalism has been promoting?
- thepoliticalcat, on 11/19/2008, -20/+11Civil, is it? So, let's see, if a group of LGBTQ people came into your neighbourhood and sang songs and, I dunno, paraded about naked, that would be OK?
- RomeroWasRight, on 11/19/2008, -0/+19Were the Christians naked? I don't think so. They came to the neighborhood and sang songs.
If homosexuals came to my neighborhood and sang songs, my neighbors and I would not take to the streets in a threatening manner, spewing profanity, threatening, and requiring police intervention to protect the homosexualYour parallel is completely bogus. - egg321, on 11/19/2008, -1/+5That would be a Broadway Show.
- Smaulz, on 11/19/2008, -0/+3@egg321
No doubt. I'd grab the freakin lawn chairs and popcorn!
- RomeroWasRight, on 11/19/2008, -0/+19Were the Christians naked? I don't think so. They came to the neighborhood and sang songs.
- Suricou, on 11/19/2008, -6/+1Nice claim, but the Mormon Temples havn't been vandalised. Those have been protested mostly-peacefully. There have been a couple of isolated incidents during the protesting, but none involving vandalising the mormon temples.
- Salesti, on 11/18/2008, -15/+22That's what I don't get.....so many non-straight folks are just out there living their lives like the *straight* folks (paying taxes, going to college, working, etc.), and then these gangs of rabid mutants swarm all over the humans in an orgy of hate, foaming at the mouth, and....expecting they'll receive acceptance and respect? WHAT????!
- georgiajim, on 11/18/2008, -19/+28Who cut off the last thread on this article, WND or Digg? Anybody know?
- SlayerSyrena, on 11/18/2008, -9/+22I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the thread was deleted. I'm not sure who's responsible but I'm guessing it wasn't WND.
- mrbillwilson, on 11/19/2008, -1/+7the video was submitted here.
http://digg.com/politics/Christians_Chased_out_of_ ...
- mrbillwilson, on 11/19/2008, -1/+7the video was submitted here.
- AWBoy666, on 11/18/2008, -9/+13What was the thread? You mean there was another article on this which was censored?
- nilesmc, on 11/19/2008, -5/+12Notice a pattern?
- Navigator7, on 11/19/2008, -12/+12Weird, huh?
I saw that too.
Having trouble just posting.- maybeth, on 11/19/2008, -4/+8I had a hard time posting too Navigator. This is not the first time. I thought it was my vivid imagination before thinking that Digg just did not like articles that do not have a far-left spin on them but could there be some truth to that? I had to sign in several times, and finally was able to digg it and then was able to post to it.
- PappyPapillon, on 11/19/2008, -10/+17Digg has deleted numerous story submissions which have dealt with the darker side of the various protests by the sodomites. As Digg is a supporter and promoter of the sodomite lifestyle it is to be expected.
- zortnac, on 11/19/2008, -10/+9Did you ever once consider that it wasn't the news that digg moderators agreed was inappropriate, but the language used in the title of the digg?
You think it's fine to refer to people as "abnormals?" - bioya1, on 11/19/2008, -4/+12YES its fine...
- JenniferInMO, on 11/19/2008, -14/+3Perhaps all the comments of the Christian Taliban are considered abusive.
- victorypup, on 11/19/2008, -4/+13What else are they but "abnormals"?
- JenniferInMO, on 11/19/2008, -12/+6@victorypup. bioya1: They are as God created them. The hate you show by using derogatory terms like "sodomites" and "abnormals" is not as God made you. You have taken it upon yourself to judge others and to act self-righteously.
I am offended by that kind of language and I assume the Digg staff is as well. - RomeroWasRight, on 11/19/2008, -1/+16That may be Jennifer. But surely, you see that far worse things are said about all kinds of people on digg. It seems that the digg staff have a special warm place in their hearts for homosexuals that causes digg to censor speech much more vigorously when the speech is against the behavior of homosexuals.
Flip this situation around, and find an article about Christians pouring out from their churches and harassing and verbally abusing homosexuals, requiring police intervention, and then just sit back and see what kind of hate-speech is tolerated on digg against certain people.
If digg is going to have standards of decorum, they should apply it evenhandedly, and not treat homosexuals as if they and their behavior are above reproach. - georgiajim, on 11/19/2008, -1/+14@ Jennifer - How many people have you personally been responsible for getting banned? I'll bet you have quite a collection of heads on your wall. Did that hurt your feelings? Should I be worried? You are kayala without the cursing. How does she stay on here without being banned? Because she is a gay ally, that's why.
- bioya1, on 11/19/2008, -1/+9Jennifer - You are typical of an emotion driven lib who is offended at anything that they don't agree with. Hence the psychiatric diagnosis that Liberalism is a mental disease.
Get help.
- zortnac, on 11/19/2008, -10/+9Did you ever once consider that it wasn't the news that digg moderators agreed was inappropriate, but the language used in the title of the digg?
- mrbillwilson, on 11/19/2008, -7/+4It was submitted by "lajaw" and he has been banned. Maybe that is it? Do they ban the submitted articles too?
- ironhide, on 11/19/2008, -12/+7I've sent another note to abuse@digg.com about this article - expect it to be gone soon. I've also advised them to block articles from WND.
- maybeth, on 11/19/2008, -7/+18So just out of curiosity, why would you want this article removed? I get that you might not like the title of the Digg submission or the comments that follow, but was is your problem with the article itself? It seems to me that it is just stating facts of a "brawl" between two groups. Additionally why would you want ALL WND articles banned? Not the right slant for you? For me, I want to get my news from a variety of sources so that I can get a complete picture as opposed to just far-left or far-right slants that the various media outlets have gone to. Sure, it might feel better to hear everything through the filters that you want to hear, but just ignoring the other side does not make them go away. Hopefully Digg does not take the "advise" of just anyone that has a problem with the way a story is told and allows for a balanced approach so that people with differing opinions can voice their ideas and constructive discussions might take place. I would not expect them to remove an ARTICLE that glorifies what I consider deviant behavior just because I disagree with the slant of it.
- ironhide, on 11/19/2008, -15/+9This is the fifth article on this subject that I've reported. The right-wingers are incapable of discussing anything homosexual without using slurs. Since all five articles were linked from WND it seemed to be a prudent suggestion. There were no "facts" mentioned - just a YouTube video from one side. No independent corroboration. Typical for WND. It's up to Digg to see if my suggestion was justified.
- georgiajim, on 11/19/2008, -5/+16@ ironhide - Go ahead and report me now, because I'm not afraid to say that I disagree with you. I also disagree with what the gays did in Freakshow. Since you seem to have the ability to silence your critics, go ahead and silence me. Show us your might and use your connection with the almighty Digg team. Left wing bastards.
- ironhide, on 11/19/2008, -18/+7Why would I report you? You're not using any slurs. I have no problem with civilized debate. Unfortunately most right-wingers are on a level with the lower primates and their idea of debate is seeing how much poo they can throw.
- maybeth, on 11/19/2008, -7/+20@ironhide: I agree that there should be more constructive debate as opposed to mudslinging. I believe most left-wingers are on the level of the lower primates and THEY are the ones being vulgar, crude and attempting to be just as hateful as possible to those that do not ascribe to their beliefs. There has to be some middle-ground. You cannot just completely dismiss someone because of his/her religious beliefs or sexual preference. I can however completely dismiss someone for their meanness and inability to have a rational discussion without calling names and hurling accusatory remarks.
- RomeroWasRight, on 11/19/2008, -4/+16ironhide = hear no evil.
Speech offends you? No problem! Censor it! THAT'S, the Liberal way! - raybojabo, on 11/19/2008, -5/+11Ironhide,
You just came out of the closet, your a card carrying communist. - mrbillwilson, on 11/19/2008, -3/+9and a likely Sodomite.
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -2/+12ironhide - What about punkisnotdead's comment at the very beginning - "Suck a d**k, World Net Daily!". Will you be "reporting" that, too, brownshirt? You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
And you want a website banned simply because you do not agree with their political views. Who do you think you are? Burn any books lately, fuhrer? - georgiajim, on 11/19/2008, -2/+9@ existing - The hypocrisy of these far left gays (and their allies) knows no bounds.
- deathsythe, on 11/19/2008, -1/+13Funny, I don't think any of us have ever asked abuse@digg to stop allowing articles from Huffington Post, DailyKos, thinkprogress, or any of those rags - amazing the hypocrisy.
Just bury it, stay within the confides of the system and be on your merry little way. Why alter the game's rules to give yourself an advantage- where is the fairness in that? Where is the tolerance that the left embraces so much? - CaptCarrot, on 11/19/2008, -1/+8Please ask them to block Huffpo and DK articles as well. Because I know you would like balance. Thanks.
- elranchomzt, on 11/19/2008, -1/+9May i just say that those of us who believe in decency and civil discussion need to set the example and be above reproach.
Calling somebody names because they are calling names, is still doing the same thing. Of course we're mad, because of course it's totally prejudiced the way that the Digg administrators handle things, and it's totally hypocritical what the liberals condemn in others versus what they allow themselves to do. But we're called to respond in love, even if we're mad.
Otherwise, we really aren't any better than they are.
- bunkster, on 11/19/2008, -10/+2This RIGHT-WING ***** belongs in the garbage can where it was sent to!
- SlayerSyrena, on 11/18/2008, -9/+22I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the thread was deleted. I'm not sure who's responsible but I'm guessing it wasn't WND.
- SlayerSyrena, on 11/18/2008, -27/+37Here is more info on what happened, which was not mentioned in the WND article:
"It wasn't long before the violence turned to perversion. They were touching and grabbing me, and trying to shove things in my butt, and even trying to take off my pants - basically trying to molest me. I used one hand to hold my pants up, while I used the other arm to hold one of the girls. The guys huddled around all the girls, and protected them."
Full story at the Wake Up America blog.- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -14/+13Sounds like some closeted freak's sweaty fantasy. Yours, perhaps?
- CaptCarrot, on 11/19/2008, -1/+2Sounds a lot like Genesis 19:1-9.
- Suricou, on 11/19/2008, -10/+7I've heard all sorts of stories like this. All of which are at best dubious, and at worst confirmed false. There is even one person at conservapedia urging members to lie in order to smear the protestors.
- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -14/+13Sounds like some closeted freak's sweaty fantasy. Yours, perhaps?
- jm7strick, on 11/18/2008, -18/+27I wonder what happened to all the comments on this article? Was it something I said?
These people are either really stupid or they went out to start something, knowing full well that going down into the Castro district and singing to a bunch of drunk and angry gays who just lost porp 8 was going to piss people off. What did they expect, flowers?- aud24, on 11/18/2008, -9/+21I kind of agree with you, but as a Christian that whats you do, you pray for the unprayable (which there is no such thing) You travel to Samaria where no one wants to go, and you spread the gospel. That's what Jesus wanted his followers to do.
- aud24, on 11/18/2008, -7/+13*that's what and His... have to get that right :-)
- USArugula, on 11/18/2008, -6/+14Mattew 6:5-6
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. - aud24, on 11/19/2008, -10/+10Acts 1:8 "But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria and to the end of the earth."
6:7 "And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were obedient to the faith."
9:31 "So the church throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samaria had peace and was built up; and walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit it was multiplied."
These people traveled to Samaria to spread the power of the Holy Spirit. Acts is the apropos passage for this.
Btw- I see you're an arugula farmer, once you're taxed into oblivion perhaps you can barter with Barry, I heard he was complaining about the price of arugula in Whole Foods. - Navigator7, on 11/19/2008, -11/+13You bet, Aud24!
That's why I post here.
I don't have the cahonies the people in the video have to even go to California much less into the den of perversion that is SF.
Funny, as unlikely as a gay march would be here...I can't imagine treating people of an ideology I detest with the fomented bile the gays gave the Christians.
Hence their weakness! - aud24, on 11/19/2008, -10/+8Navigator just to let you know Arugula was being condescending, saying the Christians were hypocritical, not the case as I pointed out they were witnessing in a place like Samaria (Samaritans were considered unclean because they were mixed with Assyrian blood).
- USArugula, on 11/19/2008, -6/+13aud24:
Check your Red Letter, son. My quotes are Jesus' words. Yours are those of an apostle doing improv. - aud24, on 11/19/2008, -12/+4Well with that attitude the whole Bible could be improv, afterall it was written by man. The men who started the church as provided by the book of ACTS SON.
- aud24, on 11/19/2008, -10/+7"Bible fight!"
Nice to see you illustrated your quote from Matthew, yes indeed Jesus would be so proud of you, inciting a 'Bible fight' This will end now. I suggest going back to growing Arugula. - aud24, on 11/19/2008, -8/+5I see the 'Bible Fight' wolves have come to devour the naysayer... how sanctimonious of you all!
- jitterbits, on 11/19/2008, -0/+2Arugala is right.
God is supposed to be omniscient and omnipresent He doesn't need Christians to go to a certain place to make the prayers stick. There is no logical reason, save spiritual torment, that Christians have to go there. If it were the inner city where they would have to worry about being shot by gangs, where the greatest danger isn't a group of the "effete" and the "butch", would so many Christians really find it this important to pray in person? They know just as well as the rest of us that the gay community as a whole poses less of a threat to them than they pose to the gay community.
This whole thing creeps me out, anyway. I swear, praying for some unwilling person is quite nearly a form of assault (though obviously not physical). As someone who woke up many times in the wee hours of dawn to find her mother "intercessing" on her behalf, I can guarantee it's uncomfortable. And that's my own mother. For a short amount of time. If someone I didn't know came up and did it to me for a long period of time, I might go a little wonky myself.
All you believers who seem to think this is appropriate, how would you feel were the situation reversed? Say, a large group of occultists came to a churchy neighborhood, drew a giant pentagram, and stood around praying for YOUR soul. Would you find that acceptable and support their religious freedom?
Somehow, I doubt it.
- AWBoy666, on 11/18/2008, -6/+22How about tolerance?
Especially considering they went there at the same time for months.....they had nothing to do with Prop 8. - NinaOdell, on 11/19/2008, -3/+3It's a question of timing, aud24. Even if they had been doing it for months, it just was a good idea to go down there at that time. It's kind of like - or it feels like - gloating at time when the people you're supposed to be praying for are feeling the lowest.
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -1/+2Why is this called the "Castro District"?
- lydecker, on 11/19/2008, -0/+5Castro Street was named for José Castro (1808–1860), a leader of Mexican opposition to U.S. rule in California in the 19th century, and governor of Alta California from 1835-1836. The neighborhood now known as the Castro was born in 1887 when the Market Street Cable Railway built a line linking Eureka Valley to downtown.
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -0/+2Hi, lydecker - Thanks for answering; that's interesting.
- aud24, on 11/18/2008, -9/+21I kind of agree with you, but as a Christian that whats you do, you pray for the unprayable (which there is no such thing) You travel to Samaria where no one wants to go, and you spread the gospel. That's what Jesus wanted his followers to do.
- bradspangler, on 11/18/2008, -26/+22To the religious right, it's only violence when the victims of state violence fight back.
- Salesti, on 11/18/2008, -17/+16Then you mean the "religious right" (whatever THAT is) is the State? Why else would those animals attack *Christians*, if the State is what's oppressing them? Aren't gays allowed to vote or voice their opinions? Nuttier and nuttier!
- kayala, on 11/19/2008, -9/+8The Religious Right is a recognized group and it's the one that is too damned stupid to care about anything but God, guns and gays. I don't know if you're playing dumb or if you're truly mentally handicapped.
- Pitofdoom, on 11/19/2008, -1/+5Christians care about "gays" in the same way they care about liars, thieves, murders, rapists etc....
Rights codified by LAW Vs. civil tolerance,
that's the argument !
What "rights" are gays lacking ?
There are "words" that build / maintain civilization,
re-defining some words undermines such into chaos.
Where's the reciprocal tolerance ? - jitterbits, on 11/20/2008, -0/+1Reciprocal tolerance?
Wouldn't you guys have to. . . oh, I don't know, actually SHOW tolerance for any tolerance you receive to be reciprocal?
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -3/+6Violence is violence, regardless of who perpetrates it. In this case, the violence was being perpetrated by gays. All the other side was doing was singing.
Question is, should the Christians have been there in the first place. I can not speak for these particular Christians. But as a Christian, I know what their "side" is, which is to do what Christ admonished them to do - be a light unto the world - go to the pits of hell, if necessary - be a witness for Christ and help those who desire it, if you can. Should they have expected this reaction? Possibly. However, they apparently had been going to the same location for several days with no problem. Then this happened - it was a Friday night, people were in bars, no doubt had been drinking maybe a little too much - things got way out of hand. But there is never an excuse for violence and there was no excuse for the gays to act as they did. Reasons, yes. Excuses, no.
I'd still like to know why they call this area the "Castro District". - rdunning, on 11/22/2008, -2/+0What state violence? Give examples. No, the sodomites are doing what sodomites have done with a eerie consistency for all recorded history: riot when they don't get what they want. The Prophet Ezekiel made this insightful observation: The sin of Sodom is pride. That is the real issue. The arrogant and prideful sodomite cannot bear the disapprobation of men and women of higher moral character than he. Since the sodomite cannot earn the voluntary approval of decent and generous people, he seeks to compel approval by coercion and force. Thus the sodomite wars against freedom of conscience and acts as an enemy of true human liberty and freedom.
- Salesti, on 11/18/2008, -17/+16Then you mean the "religious right" (whatever THAT is) is the State? Why else would those animals attack *Christians*, if the State is what's oppressing them? Aren't gays allowed to vote or voice their opinions? Nuttier and nuttier!
- aud24, on 11/18/2008, -21/+28On a side note those were the worst dressed gays I have ever seen, it looked like a clip from Eminem's Stan. They must of had a buy one get one free sale on wife beaters and outdated homie jeans in the Castro district.
- digget, on 11/19/2008, -4/+15It's this terrible economy.
- 4wheel, on 11/19/2008, -3/+3It's Bush's fault!!! /s
- kuffar, on 11/19/2008, -17/+11
- Shiloah, on 11/19/2008, -8/+4Get some new material, you tired sorry jerk.
- Beeta1946, on 11/19/2008, -1/+1Truth hurts.. It bears repeating. Jerk
- digget, on 11/19/2008, -4/+15It's this terrible economy.
- Chris1234tine, on 11/18/2008, -22/+13Again: Barbed wire. Tear Gas. Dogs.
- kayala, on 11/19/2008, -11/+5For the Christians? Let's do it!
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -3/+4Real nice, kayala. /sarcasm
- deathsythe, on 11/19/2008, -2/+4You forgot the fire hoses.
- APB2007, on 11/19/2008, -3/+1Yeah, you. Stay out of our neighborhood if you don't like us. Leave us alone!"
funny that's how most of us normal people feel about our children and the institute of marriage when it comes to the deviants.
stay away from our children and marriage and the vast majority of us could care less what you do in your own bedroom. A man or woman's sins are between him/her and God. And we are all sinners in some way or another.
- slickwilly2, on 11/18/2008, -18/+18Don't these people understand that Christians have and carry GUNS and a few I know just wish someone would do this to them/in front of their families. I've always wanted to see the godless pray for forgiveness.
- AWBoy666, on 11/18/2008, -2/+21I have a carry permit and wouldn't have drawn (or been legally able to) until I felt my life was endangered. While this was certainly a violent incident, I wouldn't say that it would have necessitated a response with a firearm. I think that would have just made the situation worse.....
- aud24, on 11/18/2008, -13/+9Yeah, but maybe it would have gotten one of them to pee their pants, which would have been worth the possible imprisonment (not talking about firing a gun, just intimidation ;-)
- PappyPapillon, on 11/19/2008, -1/+11I agree. Definitely not a situation that called for the use of firearms. As you and I both know, when you point a firearm at someone it is because you are willing to use it. It is never to be used solely to intimidate.
- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -10/+7Really, aud24? Your fantasy is to watch a gay man urinate on himself at gunpoint? That's really kinky.
I bet if you went to The Castro, you could find plenty of guys willing to help you out with that. No risk of imprisonment required. - victorypup, on 11/19/2008, -8/+7No what this situation called for was for the police to arrest these Sodomites for assault, and threatening to kill based on their hate. Hate crime on video.
- aud24, on 11/19/2008, -2/+2Potato noodle you went pretty far with that description, sounds like someone is speaking from experience.
- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -14/+15Trust me, most people realize how dangerous you sick ***** are. Lucky for us, you're busy killing each other off.
http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Drunk_Father_Accidentall ... - bartpieters, on 11/19/2008, -6/+5So homosexuals are godless??? Who are you to judge? In fact does not Jesus tell you specifically not to judge and leave that to God?
- Beeta1946, on 11/19/2008, -1/+0By your fruits ye shall be known. God hates your sin but loves you. That still does not give you a pass into heaven at his coming as sin separares you from God. Repent if you are worried about where you will spend eternity. They have not God in them if they are committing such vile acts. God hates your sin. You can not serve two masters. Choose this day who you will serve . God or man. Time is short to his coming and your decision will determine heaven or hell.
- jitterbits, on 11/19/2008, -0/+2All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. There are no degrees of sin. It's all wrong. It will all, in Christian mythology, land you in hell. By elevating yourself to the position of God in order to decide who will burn and who will live, you are yourself sinning.
By your fruits, you shall be known? If your fruits are not love and tolerance and forgiveness, what good has God done in your life? Remember, he spits out the lukewarm and finds them even more detestable than any other group. WWJD? Stone a gay? Condemn a gay? Hardly.
If even Christ would not condemn a sinner, what right have you to do the same thing? - rdunning, on 11/22/2008, -1/+0No God does not prohibit judgment. Instead the passage cited deals with judging by a standard outside of God's standards. Also, God calls sodomy an abomination in several notable places. He also declares that there is no place for sodomites in the Kingdom of God. That's His standard not mine so if you don't like it, take it up with Him. Representing this does not constitute judgement in any sense of the word anyway. No sentence has been passed and no rights have been removed. The only thing that has been done is delivery of a message the sodomite doesn't want to hear. Tough beans.
Bottom Line: Believers are commanded to "judge with righteous judgment" and to "have nothing to do with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather reprove them." So, consider yourself reproved.
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -1/+3bartpieters - I guess it depends on ones definition of "godless", Aren't you also being judgmental?
BTW, I do not agree with slick willy2 or gnocchi1442. Hate begets hate; violence begets violence and solves nothing.
It's a damn shame we can not get beyond this planted divisiveness. We are losing our country as a result.- Pitofdoom, on 11/19/2008, -2/+1When tolerance is transformed into "unreasonable demands" and expectations of entering into Law, Church or the supper table, there has to be a point of blow back if "tolerance" / understanding nor respect is not reciprocal.
- Beeta1946, on 11/19/2008, -1/+2We are losing our nation to immorality. This destroys soul and body. Anything goes attitude is against God's word. What about his commandments.? He didn't give them to us to live by just because he was bored. Those are his laws and as a nation they must be upheld or lawlessness will abound. We have been sliding into immorality for years now and look at the crime rate and attacks on children over what it was 50 years ago. Much worse than 25 years ago because we have push out Our Amighty God. I fear what we will see in five years at the rate this group of people are growing and getting violent against the christian and other good God fearing people. The end of time is up on us for scripture is being fullfilled even on the subject we are discussing here. Look up people , keep prayed up or you want be going up when he comes. Just to those that in faith are watching for his return.,
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -0/+1But that can be said of both sides, Pitofdoom. Both sides feel the opposition has gotten in their face. Both sides feel unreasonable demands and expectations are made of them, and both feel there is no understanding or respect from the other. Just look at the posts here. I hate to see this, I really do. It's tearing our country apart.
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -0/+1Beeta1946 - I SO understand and agree with you. But read some of these posts - on both sides of the issue. Vileness, hatred and evil. I can't stand some of the posts I've seen against Christians and Christianity. And some of the posts made by supposed Christians are way out of line. But I'm afraid both sides are stepping over so many lines that we'll never find our way back. What our country needs is to unite and come together; and I don't mean by singing Kumbaya (sp?). I mean we have real enemies - not just outside, but within. Those of us who want desperately to see this country survive need to work together towards that end, or nothing else is going to matter.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just whistling in the breeze. - Pitofdoom, on 11/19/2008, -2/+1What is the "tolerant" limit of homosexual "demands" ?
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -0/+2Pitofdoom - I suppose it would be to live their lives in peace. How would you answer that question?
- Pitofdoom, on 11/19/2008, -1/+1Who's trying pervert / stop that ?
- AWBoy666, on 11/18/2008, -2/+21I have a carry permit and wouldn't have drawn (or been legally able to) until I felt my life was endangered. While this was certainly a violent incident, I wouldn't say that it would have necessitated a response with a firearm. I think that would have just made the situation worse.....
- btschul, on 11/18/2008, -21/+33The levels of hipocracy on display here are, for lack of a better way of describing it, over 9000. The gays cry about tolerance and love and rights and acceptance and respect during the day, but go around beating up old ladies and harassing christians and mailing fake anthrax letter bombs to mormons at night. Such tolerance. Everyone would see what a huge joke they are if it wasn't for the overly PC liberal media who can't tell the difference between an old lady praying and a mob of gays assaulting her and curb stomping the religious symbol she is carrying.
- btschul, on 11/19/2008, -7/+10Meh. The liberal bury brigades are here. I went from +10 to +2 in like 4 minutes without a single person refuting my point.
- Pitofdoom, on 11/19/2008, -1/+2All the day long....
- btschul, on 11/19/2008, -7/+10Meh. The liberal bury brigades are here. I went from +10 to +2 in like 4 minutes without a single person refuting my point.
- 2Conservative, on 11/19/2008, -23/+28Said it before and I will say it again. The dark can't stand the light. These people cannot have morality creeping into their minds or the little angel sitting on their shoulders may want to ruin their "fun".
It is really fascinating to watch and even better to take part in. I wish I could be there.- zortnac, on 11/19/2008, -7/+17I flourish in the light, loving my neighbor and doing all that I can to be kind and christ-like in my treatment of others. I also am a gay man who has long-since accepted and affirmed that I am what God made me.
The only darkness here is the kind that keeps your judgmental heart in the shadows.
Come out in to the light, it's nicer out here. - 2Conservative, on 11/19/2008, -7/+6Good for you! I'm happy you found God and gave up that lifestyle. Notice I said "these people". I take it you were not there?
- zortnac, on 11/19/2008, -7/+11I think you're confused, I haven't given up any "lifestyle."
What I'm telling you is that I am a gay man in a gay relationship, and that I flourish in the light. :-) - 2Conservative, on 11/19/2008, -8/+7Oh, sorry. I read your above comment to mean you had repented and become a Christian. At that point the sin must stop.
- zortnac, on 11/19/2008, -7/+11I suppose that it's your problem that you find a loving monogamous relationship as "sinful."
The point is that I'm not afraid of any darkness, and I don't see anyone trying to "ruin my fun."
All I see are people judging and condemning others and trying to turn them in to second class citizens. - 2Conservative, on 11/19/2008, -6/+7Then we agree to disagree. Best of luck in your endeavors.
- Pitofdoom, on 11/19/2008, -5/+3@zortnac,
People aren't condemning you nor
seeking second class citizenship upon others.
There are fundamentals (words) of civilization
that if altered create generational chaos.
Gay's having no generational responsibility
are free to lavish upon themselves, but those
that send the next generation forward also expect
tolerance from that generation to which such
tolerance was allotted and accept staying within said generation. - jitterbits, on 11/19/2008, -0/+2Yes, look at the chaos into which Massachusetts has descended.
/s
- zortnac, on 11/19/2008, -7/+11I think you're confused, I haven't given up any "lifestyle."
- rdunning, on 11/22/2008, -0/+0Enlightened sodomy? This is an oxymoron. Nobody objects to "loving monogamous relationships". Its the man engaging in debased moral depravity with another man that is the issue of contention between you and the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He does have a controversy with this particular species of wicked practices whether you recognize it or not. Facts are stubborn things. Aligning your life to the facts and the truth is an act that has a name: repentance. I suggest you do so. Light and life awaits you. Death and destruction stalk you. Choose life.
- zortnac, on 11/19/2008, -7/+17I flourish in the light, loving my neighbor and doing all that I can to be kind and christ-like in my treatment of others. I also am a gay man who has long-since accepted and affirmed that I am what God made me.
- Gfreed, on 11/19/2008, -23/+29I originally wrote this for another Digg thread that I guess was censored. People were complaining because folks were saying that homosexuality is perverted. They were saying that they were frightened of the Christians saying being gay is a perversion. This was my response:
I find it so incredibly interesting that there are people who claim to be frightened of those who will not march in lock step with the gay agenda. How is this disagreement irrational? Homosexuals seem to have the right two place labels on whomever they choose, "Breeders" or "Homophobic."They march down our streets half naked saying "look at us, we are here, in your face and there is nothing you can do about it." They often have sex in public places like men's rest rooms. When i was in the Navy they were having sex in th shower area causing turmoil on the ship. No one did anything to stop it, so they took it one step further by crawling into someone's rack in the middle of the night. As we used to say in the Navy, "the ***** hit the fan!" in a big way. We weren't even safe in our racks at night. Homosexuals have invaded our schools and our workplaces always pushing their life style. They threaten people in that we were told if we didn't attend company required gay sensitivity training session at work we could loose our jobs. Children and parents are often not given a choice in the matter of their children being exposed to homosexual indoctrination. Now homosexuals seem to think they have the right to come on to private property and disrupt church meetings. In the United States we are supposed to have the right to publicly give voice to our thoughts and feelings. We have the right of public assembly for the purpose of peaceful protests or demonstration without the specter of threats or intimidation.
As we have seen homosexual activist have blatantly violated the civil rights of others with open threats to bodily harm to others. The Christians in those Churches that were invaded by the gay activists have the right to defend themselves and forcibly remove these protesters. This is doubly true in that in recent years churches have been shot up. But up to this point no one has lifted a hand against the invaders or those who are disrupting peaceful protests. The Christians say they come in love and peace and they are praying for those that are afflicting them. The only thing these Christians have done is to say that homosexuality is wrong.
Are these Christians so scary and frightening to you? Really? Then you have led a very sheltered life or you live in a fantasy land. Your complaint here sounds more like an excuse to muzzle people you don't agree with.
I have found that when debating an issue if your opponent can not defend his position they will almost always resort to personal attacks, name calling, attacking ones credibility, and dehumanization. Homosexuality can not be defended, its wrong, we all know it, they all know it too! Arguments supporting homosexuality are about as logical as saying a crescent wrench makes an excellent hammer. So the only option open to them is to use force, fear and intimidation to try and silence those they don't agree with. The following is an example of the thinking of these radicals. Take notice that it was written decades ego and tells us what their goals will be!
AN ESSAY ON THE HOMOSEXUAL REVOLUTION, by Michael Swift
[This manifesto is in the Library of Congress. This essay was printed in the February 15, 1987 issue of the homosexual newspaper Gay Community News by Michael Swift, and was reprinted in the February 15-21 1987 Congressional Record. Excerpts:]
We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all-male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together.
Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us. Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep.
Women, you say you wish to live with each other instead of with men. Then go and be with each other. We shall give your men pleasures they have never known because we are foremost men too and only man knows how to truly please another man; only one man can understand with depth and feeling the mind and body of another man.
All laws banning homosexual activity will be revoked. Instead, legislation shall be passed which engenders love between men….
We shall write poems of the love between men; we shall stage plays in which man openly caresses man; we shall make films about the love between heroic men which will replace the cheap, superficial, sentimental, insipid, juvenile, heterosexual infatuations presently dominating your cinema screens….
Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in a communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants.
All churches who condemn us will be closed. Our only gods are handsome young men. We adhere to a cult of beauty, moral and aesthetic. All that is ugly and vulgar and banal will be annihilated….
We shall portray the homosexuality of the great leaders and thinkers who have shaped the world. We will demonstrate that homosexuality and intelligence and imagination are inextricably linked, and that homosexuality is a requirement for true nobility, true beauty in a man.
We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution. Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks!
In the most recent protests by Gay activists they have threatened to follow Christians home and murder them! We Christians are not really afraid of death because we do indeed have a God who loves us. We also know that in the short term we will loose this struggle for the truth. The Bible clearly stipulates that the world will hate us, we will be jailed, and at some point even put to death because we will not be politically correct. But it doesn't take a genius to figure out that if this society becomes so permissive as to accept homosexuality they will be accepting all kinds of chaotic things along with it. The ten commandments will become a thing of the past. Indeed, there will no longer be absolute truth but a truth that fits each individual. At that point right and wrong will cease to exist for people and each person will do what is right in their own eyes.
The resulting chaos will be unimaginable and the government will have to create a police state of great size and power in order to maintain control and order. Everyone instead of fearing God will fear the Government.
Your next thought will probably be that i'm one of those twisted people. Well i do have a great deal of historical evidence to back what i'm saying here. The Roman empire is a good place to start. Homosexuals will not bring about the demise of a nation but the acceptance of their life style by society is a very good indicator of the dissolution of that society is not far off.
- nippinawassee, on 11/19/2008, -7/+12Enough to gag a maggot. Goes back to everything else where our children are concerned: parents must teach them at home (not just home school) how to handle the perversion in this country and elsewhere - let them know what the homosexuals are like - keep the above article that they may read it when they can understand - if you teach them, they can protect themselves - and protect themselves they must. For sure the schools and their teachers are not capable of protecting your children - you must provide their protection until they are able to handle it themselves.
- JenniferInMO, on 11/19/2008, -6/+7@nippin: I am all for protecting your children from predators, but implying that gay people are pedophiles is false. The majority of pedophiles are heterosexual men. Many of them are married. I have worked in the foster care system to help children who have been molested. In the many I have had contact with not one offender was a homosexual male. I am sure some are, but my point is that pedophilia is a sickness and it is totally unrelated to heterosexuality or homosexuality.
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -2/+5JenniferInMO - NAMBLA may disagree with you on pedophilia; I am sure they think it is quite normal. Shocking though it sounds, in another 20 years society may also be trained into thinking it's normal, because, after all, they were born that way.
Hello again, BTW. - CaptCarrot, on 11/19/2008, -2/+2Right, Jenny. These molestors are not homosexuals -- they're simply males who have sex with younger males.
Uh, waitaminnit...
- JenniferInMO, on 11/19/2008, -9/+5Lovely rant, but absolutely FALSE about the image you portray about "homosexuals" invading anything or interfering in anything in your life. You LIE about the military.
- these3remain, on 11/19/2008, -4/+7"You LIE about the military." State your basis for accusing Gfreed of lying about his military experience. Thought so. No rational argument mounted and resorting to character assassination. Typical.
- Gfreed, on 11/19/2008, -1/+5Wow, in my rant, didn't i talk about people who have no argument attacking a persons credibility? In fact it was kind of a dangerous time when i was in the Navy. I was in at the end of the Vietnam war. The military really didn't know how to deal with this kind of thing. Mostly when something like this would come up the officers ignored it. Like you they didn't believe us. We had some really crazy nut case people on our ship. Due to the end of the war people were leaving the military in massive numbers. We had ships that were sitting at the pier with virtually no crews. The Navy was getting folks were ever they could find them and they didn't care from where these folks were from. We had lots of folks that joined the Navy because if they didn't they would go to jail. In those days race was a problem and we were all armed at all times. Drugs were also a problem and i spent lots of time sleeping in DPC Data Processing Center because i busted a bunch of people for drug use. These people had friends and they wanted pay back. DPC was a secured area so as long as i stayed in DPC there wasn't much they could do. When i wasn't in DPC i was a Nuclear ASROC guard and carried a loaded 45! When we did sleep in our racks most of us had either rigging knives or the large buck knives under our pillows. I served on a destroyer with a very small crew. We heard that the carriers were really bad snake pits. I had heard that our gay problem out so out of hand that some or the crew grabbed these the gay guys and demanded they be put off the ship. Our ship was brand new out of the yards and nothing seemed to be working. The crew put in long hours trying to get thing working properly. We were all tired and overworked. We had two people die in stupid accidents and one nut case jumped overboard. We were all at our limit when the gays started their thing and the crew really were angry and then the officers got them off the ship fast.
I asked my Dad if he had any problems with this kind of thing in the army during WWII. My Dad he heard of one incident of a gay guy trying to invade another soldiers space and he got shot for it. You say i lie but the facts are that Fragging occurred in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. You simply don't mass with folks in the military. In the case of the Navy you might find yourself swimming home.
In conclusion Hollywood and what you hear and see in the media does not even come close to depicting life in the military. Depending on what you are into the military can be quite a crazy experience. There were times when we were on special ops a marine was always hanging around. We thought he was there to protect us and our high security space. I later found out his orders were to shoot us if our ship got captured. Now this guy could have been playing with us as i had difficulty getting a strait answer from anyone. I found myself having to do a deal with this guy just in case. If you must shoot us do it after we have destroyed everything first. Amongst other things this is one reasons i quit the military when my enlistment was up. If i must be shot and killed i rather go down fighting the enemy then being executed by our own people. Well there is no way i can prove anything other to tell you what I've seen and heard. My preconceived ideas of what WWII was about were shattered when my Dad now 85 starts telling what really happened to him when he liberated the Philippians during WWII. It was brutal beyond belief, and they were brutal in dealing with it.
- btsnap96, on 11/20/2008, -0/+1They call themselves men? By what definition?
I see them as cowards that have to run in packs in order to feel secure with themselves. It must make them feel really big to bully and attack little old ladies. They are still outnumbered by men and women who are married and can PROCREATE. That's the one thing that these freaks will never be able to do. There is THEM and then there is the REST OF US!! Just think of it as a gene pool that will die out eventually.
- nippinawassee, on 11/19/2008, -7/+12Enough to gag a maggot. Goes back to everything else where our children are concerned: parents must teach them at home (not just home school) how to handle the perversion in this country and elsewhere - let them know what the homosexuals are like - keep the above article that they may read it when they can understand - if you teach them, they can protect themselves - and protect themselves they must. For sure the schools and their teachers are not capable of protecting your children - you must provide their protection until they are able to handle it themselves.
- steyr95a, on 11/19/2008, -18/+2
- thejimmyo, on 11/19/2008, -2/+6"Navy Town"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw - oscenester, on 11/19/2008, -5/+7It actually probably became gay because of the Navy.
- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -4/+7@steyr95a: did you post this before or after you snuck out of the house to go blow guys in a men's room?
- Anomaly100, on 11/19/2008, -1/+6I'd say he posted this before, he sounds a little tense here. But, when someone talks about blowing stuff up, it sounds a little...sexual in this context. For him.
- Anomaly100, on 11/19/2008, -3/+6San Fagsicko? How old are you, you little *****? You know what they say about protesting too much. You sure you don't have some gay tendencies?
- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -1/+6Are you kidding? I'm pretty sure this dude is Ted Haggard.
- FarOutGrace, on 11/19/2008, -3/+2You drink a lot don't you? Don't answer, it's rhetorical..
- Bolin100, on 11/19/2008, -2/+3Did he say he wants to blow San Francisco?? I'm kind of tired, but did he....
- 2Conservative, on 11/19/2008, -6/+4From what I have been told it was a station where WWI and WWII soldiers found unsuitable for service were sent to be discharged. This included gays. Many stayed there.
- 2Conservative, on 11/19/2008, -3/+3I see the neg diggs so here are sources for you...
San Francisco's frontier spirit and wild and ribald character started its reputation as a gay mecca in the first half of the twentieth century. World War II saw a jump in the gay population when the US military actively sought out and dishonorably discharged homosexuals. From 1941 to 1945, more than 9000 gay servicemen and women were discharged, and many were processed out in San Francisco.[13] The late 1960s also brought in a new wave of lesbians and gays who were more radical and less mainstream and who had flocked to San Francisco not only for its gay-friendly reputation, but for its reputation as a radical, left-wing center. These new residents were the prime movers of Gay Liberation and often lived communally, buying decrepit Victorians in the Haight and fixing them up. When drugs and violence began to become a serious problem in the Haight, many lesbians and gays simply moved "over the hill", to the Castro replacing Irish-Americans who had moved to the more affluent and culturally homogenous suburbs. The Castro became known as a Gay Mecca, and its gay population swelled as significant numbers of gay people moved to San Francisco in the 1970s and 1980s. The growth of the gay population caused tensions with some of the established ethnic groups in the western part of the city. On November 27, 1978 Dan White, a former member of the Board of Supervisors and former police officer, assassinated the city's mayor George Moscone and San Francisco's first openly gay elected official, Supervisor Harvey Milk. The murders and the subsequent trial were marked both by candlelight vigils and riots within the gay community. In the 1980s, the AIDS virus wreaked havoc on the gay male community there. Today, the gay population of the city is estimated to be approximately 15%, and gays remain an important force in the city's life. San Francisco has a higher percentage of gays and lesbians than any other major US city.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_San_Franci ...
http://ask.yahoo.com/20060502.html
http://www.shapingsf.org/ezine/gay/
- 2Conservative, on 11/19/2008, -3/+3I see the neg diggs so here are sources for you...
- thejimmyo, on 11/19/2008, -2/+6"Navy Town"
- oscenester, on 11/19/2008, -19/+27So hypocritical!
A group of Christians that are anti-gay GO TO GAY TOWN, and "pray for the gay people"
You have been trying to tell them that they are evil for years, and yet they don't harm you. Their lifestyle does nothing to you.
But then you have to go attack them on their own grounds...
What? did you think they were just going to sit back and watch you. Get real.
You asked for it.
I just don't understand though...None of us will ever be perfect in this lifetime, and the bible teaches that we must try and make sure that we are walking the line. In that regard, you shouldn't have time to worry about anyone else's walk but your own, and perhaps those in your fellowship.
Just leave them alone...- 2Conservative, on 11/19/2008, -7/+7"attack them on their own grounds..."
If they only stayed in one place...- oscenester, on 11/19/2008, -4/+7I know that the don't all live in one place. But this was a blatant attempt at getting them where people know they are. Castro District is boytown. It's been boytown. Why go there unless you want them to be angry?
And I have some gay friends. They never bother anyone. They're actually quite interesting, and funny people. So why all the hatred? They're not trying to butt rape you, so calm down.
I don't know..I just think it's fair. What if they had been the majority, and we the minority? Would we appreciate them telling us that WE are wrong? It just in bad taste to judge them, and does you no favor with the Good Lord. - these3remain, on 11/19/2008, -1/+2@ oscenester : "It just in bad taste to judge them, and does you no favor with the Good Lord." While it is not the Christian's responsibility to judge the unbeliever, it is the Christian's responsibility to refrain from sinful behavior. It is also the Christian's responsibility to correct, in love, a fellow believer when they are engaging in sinful behavior. My point is that many Christians fail to undertake their Biblical responsibility to address sin - so if any of your gay friends are Christians, their sinful behavior should be confronted, in love. Now if your gay friends are not Christians, then your responsibility is to share the gospel with them at some point. Some Christians are under the mistaken impression that we are to refrain from all judgment. That simply is not true; we are only to refrain from judging the non-believer. Believers have a responsibility to their brothers and sisters to confront sin when it is known; if the person does not repent, then there are specific , Biblical steps that are to be taken. Since most churches fail to teach and practice church discipline, this is why the church has become lukewarm and as morally bankrupt as the world they are seeking to save.
- oscenester, on 11/19/2008, -4/+7I know that the don't all live in one place. But this was a blatant attempt at getting them where people know they are. Castro District is boytown. It's been boytown. Why go there unless you want them to be angry?
- bioya1, on 11/19/2008, -11/+7They spread AIDs - that harms a LOT of people.
- kayala, on 11/19/2008, -4/+8Straight people spread AIDS too, idiot.
- oscenester, on 11/19/2008, -5/+8@bioya1: Dude. Shut up. You sound so stupid...
- CaptCarrot, on 11/19/2008, -1/+3Thanks to the chain of bisexuals and non-monogamous heteros, kayala, yes, they do.
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -1/+5The act of praying, or singing, oscenester, does not warrant the violent reaction the Christians received. It also was not the reaction they received for the several days before, when they were in the same place doing the same thing. I think it was a Friday night, the gays had too much to drink, and overreacted, plain and simple. To defend what these gays did is, in and of itself, indefensible.
- oscenester, on 11/19/2008, -5/+1Okay existing, then perhaps we should allow satanists to come into your neighborhood and pray and sing their prayers for you, while you peacefully and happily watch them from your window.
Are you telling me that it would not upset you or warrant you to require them to leave your neighborhood?
Get real.
They were asked nicely to leave several times, and they refused.
They wanted to instigate a problem with them. That in itself is shameful. - existing, on 11/19/2008, -1/+3I disagree with you. I don't think the Christians were trying to instigate a problem. I think some of the gays were probably drunk (it was a Friday night and they were in the bars), one thing led to another, and things just got way out of hand, plain and simple. Because as the article states, there had been no problems during the several days before.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but if Satanists were to stand on my street, in front of my house, praying and singing for me, I would be very curious as to why they seemed to care that much for me. I would go out and strike up a conversation with them, and, depending on their reaction, might even ask them in for a cup of coffee.
Don't put words in my mouth. - CaptCarrot, on 11/19/2008, -0/+3oscenester, ever seen a Gay Pride parade? Remember all the Christians swarming the streets to beat them up while the parade marchers danced in their Judy Garland outfits?
- MalarkeyPN, on 11/19/2008, -0/+2existing, maybe that's what you would do, but can you say the same for all your neighbors?
- existing, on 11/20/2008, -0/+1MalarkeyPN - No, can't speak for my neighbors; especially if they had spent the evening in a bar.
- oscenester, on 11/19/2008, -5/+1Okay existing, then perhaps we should allow satanists to come into your neighborhood and pray and sing their prayers for you, while you peacefully and happily watch them from your window.
- dorsey47, on 11/19/2008, -2/+4Hypocritical. It would be hypocritical for them not to have done what they did, believing what they believe. Hypocrisy is not in the actions of the Christians.
- oscenester, on 11/19/2008, -1/+3There is hypocrisy within Christianity itself; The reason there are so many sects is because they can't even agree with each other. What are you talking about? I'm a Christian, and I know that. There are people at my Church who are hypocrites. There are people at every church who are hypocrites. Don't be asinine and try portray all Christians as perfect people. Nobody is perfect, but the Lord God, and his son Jesus Christ.
- 2Conservative, on 11/19/2008, -7/+7"attack them on their own grounds..."
- malex, on 11/19/2008, -18/+28You people actually believe a World Nut Daily article?
I'm amazed.- btschul, on 11/19/2008, -13/+12So you think that they made up that video?
- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -9/+18They certainly made up the quote that's in the headline. Where in the video did that happen?
- Suricou, on 11/20/2008, -1/+1I think they trawled through every minute of recorded footage taken during a few days of protest, and are now planning to spotlight every incident of someone losing their temper for a moment when provoked so they can claim this as 'proof' that gays are 'heterophobic' and seek to destroy Christianity. Plain old quote-mineing done with video.
- ObamaIsCarter2, on 11/19/2008, -11/+10It is alot more believable than the graphic heterophobic magazines that Sodomites like you drool over and believe unquestioningly!!
- kayala, on 11/19/2008, -10/+12Heterophobic? Is that the new right-wing buzzword? Gays that are literally afraid of the heterosexual persuasion?
We use "homophobic" because it encapsulates the fear and hatred that sexually insecure straights have towards gays. They feel their sexuality is threatened; it's a fear mechanism. "Heterophobic" is a weak, weak, answer to that. - Beeta1946, on 11/19/2008, -5/+0I hardly believe that we feel threatened by your acts. We fear your spread of disease to the innocent and your violence to people that do not subscribe to your ungodly low life style. We fear our innnocent children seeing your disgusting acts. Your name calling is no consequence for we have no shame after a natural act in correct circumstances ordained by God himself. You should feel shame for your unnatural acts. If God had intended for two men to be to gether he would have created them to be able to mate without having to use a part of the body used for elimination of waste. Does that not tell you something is wrong here. Hello!!! How filthy your acts must be. God created man and woman with the correct anatomy to perform a union in comfort and pleasure. With out your toys women and Man your use of the wrong parts . God knew what he was doing and this union is sacred to God. Only man has perverted it. Get right or be left.
- btschul, on 11/19/2008, -4/+2Before you blast Beeta1946 for bringing religion into it, his argument about homosexuality being unnatural works on a non religious level as well. If you believe in evolution, then humans have evolved to be straight. Has it not occurred to you that an all-homosexual species would only last 1 generation due to an inability to reproduce?
- Mnementh2230, on 11/19/2008, -2/+5btschul - we've observed homosexuality in other species as well. Wolves, penguins, and the like.
So either homosexuality is a completely natural state of being, or wolves and penguins can make a "lifestyle choice".
Which is it? Frankly, I'll take the less ridiculous one: It's natural. - lydecker, on 11/19/2008, -2/+5I fear everyone's spread of disease to the innocent, gay or straight. I fear everyone inciting those to violence, gay or straight. I fear everyone seeing disgusting acts, gay or straight.
Honestly, we have more to fear from GLBT than from straights. And fear of these things isn't reason to not grant anyone equality.
The argument about homosexuality being unnatural is incorrect, since it happens in nature and is therefore natural. The more accurate argument would have been oral sex, anal sex, and homosexual sex serving no biological purpose. That's accurate, but the truth is that sexuality serves a great purpose, and everything you break it down into may or may not. Homosexuality, along with transgenderism, gender identity, and non-gender conforming behavior are side effects of having two genders that both come from the exact same shaped fetus in their youth, only manipulated by androgens and hormones. - ApokalypseNow, on 11/19/2008, -1/+5@btschul
Homosexuality has a place in evolution as well - for example, in social animal groups like wolf packs, when the majority of the males leave to hunt, the homosexual males will stay behind at the den and protect the women and children, helping ensure that the next generation survives.
- kayala, on 11/19/2008, -10/+12Heterophobic? Is that the new right-wing buzzword? Gays that are literally afraid of the heterosexual persuasion?
- btschul, on 11/19/2008, -13/+12So you think that they made up that video?
- kuffar, on 11/19/2008, -21/+17
- USArugula, on 11/19/2008, -7/+9Tee hee. Cute posting style. Are you seeing anybody?
- FarOutGrace, on 11/19/2008, -6/+9He does bring out the romance in all of us!
Give the guy a Xanax. - pnunn, on 11/19/2008, -6/+6he is just ADORABLE, isn't he?
- FarOutGrace, on 11/19/2008, -6/+9He does bring out the romance in all of us!
- Anomaly100, on 11/19/2008, -7/+7Oh, I'm sorry, did you say something?
- aud24, on 11/19/2008, -12/+13The faithful comrades above will eventually understand the party messages. Then we will all be happy. Kuffar you are a great service to the Chairman. Workers unite. Sieg Heil.
- ironhide, on 11/19/2008, -13/+5Hey, there's plenty of room in my party for you big boy. What's Sieg Heil? Is that a new position?
- aud24, on 11/19/2008, -8/+10Um ew, first at your pathetic attempt to be witty, and secondly I'm a girl definitely not your big boy, and definitely not turned on by some annoying tattletale liberal neg on digg.
- USArugula, on 11/19/2008, -7/+9Tee hee. Cute posting style. Are you seeing anybody?
- catholic2u, on 11/19/2008, -14/+7I don't see the benefit of praying outside of a gay bar or in a gay district. That can only antagonize those whom you want to help. It is not the same as praying outside an abortion clinic where there is a chance of changing the mind of someone intent on getting an abortion while you are there. Go to church and pray together for the conversion of gays and lesbians. God will certainly hear you there. And of course there is always the vigilance of knowing what is being fed to your children, especially in your schools. That is the real danger if you do not take an active stand before it goes too far. God be with you.
- USArugula, on 11/19/2008, -8/+11Didn't you hear, catholic2u? X-treme Jesus™ is like a bad wifi signal -- you have to get real close for it to take.
- Tookson, on 11/19/2008, -8/+10catholic2u:
The manor in which these Christians were witnessing was very non-confrontational. They were just getting together praying and singing. They weren't "judging" or "condemning" anyone on the street. All of the hate was flowing one direction: from the homosexuals toward the Christians. These Christians should be applauded by the church regardless of denomination. They are true lights of God's love to a very dark sector of California.
I personally have been on the receiving end of that hate, and in exactly similar circumstances in West Hollywood. And I saw God work in the hearts of a few gay men, but there were of course plenty of angry loud haters who threatened us until the police came. - mtnmusicman, on 11/19/2008, -7/+5Yeah, I get what you say when alot of your priests have gotten their jollies with the young boy's in the choir, or the nun's with the underage girls....You sure have a point!
- Shiloah, on 11/19/2008, -3/+3catholic2u writes: "God will certainly hear you there..."
That's right.
Pray in your church, or as Jesus said "in your closet". Sing "to yourselves" and "to one another", as Paul said. And "don't parade your righteousness on street corners", Jesus again. But what these folks were doing had nothing to do with being heard by God, it was "to be seen by men". Jesus again.- Shiloah, on 11/19/2008, -5/+3Very interesting what gets dugg down. Every word in my comment is either a Bible quote or a Bible reference, yet it is dugg down, presumably by someone who sees it as PRO-GAY. Hey, it's in the Bible. If you can't square that with your concept of God and His grace, maybe you need to learn a little more about God.
- Tookson, on 11/19/2008, -2/+5Shiloah:
If you are trying to discourage evangelism and witnessing it is clear that you are not a follower of Jesus, or you are seriously confused.
"Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven." Matthew 5:14-17
The difference here from what you are accusing them of doing is that the Father receives the glory, rather than the person. Shiloah, may God bless you as you let the light of Christ shine before others in obedience to Jesus' commandment for all of His followers; that is, if you are following Him. If you are not, then you couldn't possibly understand the motivation. - Shiloah, on 11/19/2008, -4/+4Tookson:
I'm trying to encourage the kind of witnessing Jesus demonstrated, and to discourage the kind He rebuked. The words are His, not mine. The place you quoted speaks of men seeing our good works, not hearing us braying self-righteously on the sidewalks.
This also:
"Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." (Luke 18:10-14)
- NinaOdell, on 11/19/2008, -7/+16Way to advertise yourselves, by the way. It's not like it sounds like a threat against everyone on Digg or anything...
- Arishia, on 11/19/2008, -12/+17oh snap!....Christians praying... in a bar?.....in the Castro?...to help the *****?....Is this a joke?....Are Christians really that clueless? (Hint, cause effect.) A little common sense goes a long way. :-)
- dorsey47, on 11/19/2008, -0/+1This is not cause and effect, it is irrational hatred and fear. Why should a peaceful prayer gathering cause such a disturbance? Only demons would react that way, let them all come against the Truth.
- zkauf1, on 11/19/2008, -9/+9You're all pathetic
- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -17/+24Thanks to all the bigots on here, proving once again that religious extremism is the truly perverse lifestyle choice.
Seriously, get some help before your hatred eats you alive.- ObamaIsCarter2, on 11/19/2008, -12/+8If you want to understand what TRUE HATRED is, just talk to an ex-gay person who has become a born-again Christian and hear some of their incredible horror stories of the harassment, threats and attacks they endure from gays who used to be their friends!! The reason FORMER gays are so despised and hated by active homosexuals is because they are living proof that the "homosexuality is a biological orientation" party-line is no more than a pseudo-intellectual lie perpetuated by gay "scientists" who twist their data and experimental findings to help promote the radical gay agenda!!
- gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -7/+8Seriously, it's called "religious insanity". Seek help.
- Alheithinn, on 11/19/2008, -6/+9An ex-gay person? You can't be ex-gay. You can't just decide to change teams. It doesn't work like that. That's like saying I can suddenly decide to be gay. I can't.
Even animals can be gay. It's not a decision they make. It's biology. So quit pretending to be something you're not. You're one of those people who tries to make Paganism look bad by pretending to be an ex-witch. It's laughable.
As Gnocchi said, get help. Fast. - gnocchi1442, on 11/19/2008, -6/+6The de-Gay-ification centers don't work, but I bet a de-Christ-ification center would. We really need to look into starting one for these poor bastards.
- novenator, on 11/19/2008, -4/+6You like the Taliban? watch as the 'religious right' tries to bring it to our shores, as demonstrated by many of the comments here.
- dorsey47, on 11/19/2008, -2/+1on the contrary, it is the left that has already allowed the Taliban into Harvard.
- ObamaIsCarter2, on 11/19/2008, -12/+8If you want to understand what TRUE HATRED is, just talk to an ex-gay person who has become a born-again Christian and hear some of their incredible horror stories of the harassment, threats and attacks they endure from gays who used to be their friends!! The reason FORMER gays are so despised and hated by active homosexuals is because they are living proof that the "homosexuality is a biological orientation" party-line is no more than a pseudo-intellectual lie perpetuated by gay "scientists" who twist their data and experimental findings to help promote the radical gay agenda!!
- bioya1, on 11/19/2008, -18/+9Fags have always been regarded as "queers" and "abnormal". Always have, always will.
- kayala, on 11/19/2008, -7/+7Why do you spend so much time thinking about gays, bioya1? They seem to spend a lot of time on your mind. The harder you try to marginalize them, the more you reveal your own repressed desires. Just come out of the closet. You know that we'll accept you for who you really are - but you have to accept yourself first. Let go of this hatred you have for people who are happy. You can join them! You don't have to repress your sexuality and you don't have to be jealous of the people who aren't repressed. This isn't healthy. Accept who you are and the rest will follow.
- tiffanyjm, on 11/19/2008, -6/+3Actually, bioya1, that is not true. Homosexuality was a very common practice in ancient Greece. In fact, sexual relations between males was regarded as normal.
- jitterbits, on 11/20/2008, -0/+3Why would anyone digg this down? It's an undeniable fact!
It's not even as though it was only particular to Greece!
- jitterbits, on 11/20/2008, -0/+3Why would anyone digg this down? It's an undeniable fact!
- Beeta1946, on 11/19/2008, -4/+0Not with God... Only the ungodly!
- mtnmusicman, on 11/19/2008, -13/+16Life is to short ! Why don't some of you worry about the wars, killing of innocent people and children, instead of worrying about people that love each other. Your as full of hatred as the terrorists were fighting over sea's, and your hating your fellow American, What's up with that?
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -0/+3There's way too much hatred on both sides of the fence, mtnmusicman. Attempting to point out that hatred exists solely on one side, only perpetuates more hate. Both sides need to tone it down.
- mtnmusicman, on 11/19/2008, -0/+2Now, I totally agree with you. There are two sides to every story and of course, the truth is somewhere in between. But the hatred on both far left and right will never get this country anywhere. And thank you for having a civil conversation, I really respect you for that!
- Pitofdoom, on 11/19/2008, -1/+1Please define this hatred you speak of ?
- mtnmusicman, on 11/19/2008, -0/+2Your kidding right?
- Pitofdoom, on 11/19/2008, -1/+1NO, seriously where or what is this hatred ?
- jitterbits, on 11/20/2008, -0/+2Have you read any of your own posts lately?
- Pitofdoom, on 11/20/2008, -1/+1Example please....
- Suricou, on 11/20/2008, -0/+2"Christians care about "gays" in the same way they care about liars, thieves, murders, rapists etc..." - PitOfDoom
"Theirs a difference between LAW and Social tolerance ! Our country has become the land of lot, Sodom & Gomorrah. Their "tolerance" surrounded Lot's house, before GOD discriminated !" - PitOfDoom
"insane Obama over McCain, obvious power over country ! Inventing and or omitting historical facts has clearly shown in it's Obama revenge rewards" - PitOfDoom
"Leftist media intelligentsia FRAUD's my guess ?" - PitOfDoom on Obama's election victory
"Out of the closet does not imply an unlimited invitation into Law, Church or the dinner table ! Keep it to yourself and away from indoctrination of kids and fools ! They've asked and "we the people" say NO !" - PitOfDoom
"The tolerance of "we the people" does not mean one is invited or encouraged to bring SIN into the Law, Church nor to the dinner table. Their is a difference between LAW & SOCIAL tolerance !" - PitOfDoom
"Yes, gays were allowed out of the closet, that didn't mean they were invited into the Church nor to the National braking of bread dinner." - PitOfDoom
I'm bored now. - Pitofdoom, on 11/20/2008, -0/+2Hate: to loathe; despise to dislike, avoid, ill will, aversion, detest, antipathy, contempt etc....
Loathe: detest, abhor
Detest : dislike intensely; hate; abhor
Abhor disgust, hatred, detest
Judeo-Christianity mercy towards person
Vs. hatred of deeds.
Hatred of sinful deeds thru mercy
of forgiveness of the person.
- existing, on 11/19/2008, -0/+3There's way too much hatred on both sides of the fence, mtnmusicman. Attempting to point out that hatred exists solely on one side, only perpetuates more hate. Both sides need to tone it down.
- RomeroWasRight, on 11/19/2008, -18/+24What I see in this video:
First, from the homosexual radicals: Hatred, fear, self-centeredness, intolerance, bigotry, threats, immaturity, cowardice, petulance, disrespect, and volatility.
Next, from the praying Christians: Love, courage, selflessness, tolerance, hope, calm, maturity, honor, self-control, respect, and steadiness.
Finally, from the Police: Professionalism, evenhandedness, calmness, authority, duty, honor, bravery, tolerance, and disgust.
No one should be expected to put up with people behaving this way without a full license to retaliate.
To their credit, the cops and the Christians demonstrated who the haters are, through non-retaliation.- ironhide, on 11/19/2008, -11/+8What I see in this video:
A bunch of idiots looking for trouble, and finding it.- RomeroWasRight, on 11/19/2008, -2/+8I know, stupid, huh? Those homosexuals should have just allowed the people to pray and sing, and there would have been no confrontation at all.
Those idiots.
- RomeroWasRight, on 11/19/2008, -2/+8I know, stupid, huh? Those homosexuals should have just allowed the people to pray and sing, and there would have been no confrontation at all.
- ironhide, on 11/19/2008, -11/+8What I see in this video:
- mtnmusicman, on 11/19/2008, -16/+19Oh, I almost forgot. BURIED !!!
- JenniferInMO, on 11/19/2008, -14/+21They couldn't pray from their church or their homes? They had to go to a very gay part of town which is one of the few places gay people can feel safe to be themselves and drink a few beers? They had to go there after the Christian Taliban attacked them and took away some of their civil rights? Weren't the protests enough to tell these self-righteous christian thrill seekers that the gay community were a little sensitive about the Christian Taliban forcing its morality on them?
- ObamaIsCarter2, on 11/19/2008, -13/+11It's easy to be sympathetic to the "poor, oppressed" homosexuals of San Francisco from the comfort of your heterosexual-friendly environment in Missouri...try talkng to a former homosexual about the threats, harassments and attacks they endure from their active homosexual friends, once they have chosen not to participate in the gay lifestyle any more!! Ex-gays are one of the TRULY oppressed groups of our time, because they are living proof that homosexuality is a CHOICE and not a biological imperative!!
- Shiloah, on 11/19/2008, -4/+6What an idea... "former homosexual". I have met about as many of them as I have met "former heterosexuals". Rather, whoever is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone. And leave the rest to God, who is more than capable of taking care of the homosexuals, the heterosexuals, and all the other sinners for whom Christ died.
- JenniferInMO, on 11/19/2008, -10/+5Ex gays? LOL. No such thing. Missouri is not a "hetero friendly" environment. Gay people are EVERYWHERE. There is no getting around it, no matter how afraid you might be.
- JenniferInMO, on 11/19/2008, -8/+5If you are referring to Missouri being backward and unaccepting of gay people, yes that is probably true but the people of Missouri are working on it (Southern Missouri will probably always remain isolated though). I have never heard the term "hetero-friendly." It must be something Laura Ingram or one of your Christian Taliban ministers concocted.
That phrase is amazing. It implies that we poor, pathetic "normal" people are being suppressed by the big bad gay people. That would be a text book programming term. Cults use that technique - try to make you feel like the victim, get you mad and get you to do their bidding.
The fact is that people loving other people, same sex or otherwise is a good thing. It is hate that is the evil in this world and that hate is coming right from your fingertips onto this thread.
You also might want to do some soul searching. Your use of caps and urgent, fearful language is awfully strong. You are protesting just a little too much. - CaptCarrot, on 11/19/2008, -0/+5You're really proud of coining that phrase 'Christian Taliban' aren't you, Jenny?
- these3remain, on 11/19/2008, -1/+5Don't give Jenny credit for the hate-filled term of "Christian Taliban" - I've heard it many times before, primarily from New Agers and atheists not on digg. So her hateful ranting may originate from her own self but her hateful regurgitations are not just her own.
- Suricou, on 11/19/2008, -2/+2Ex-gays? Those people who spend months studying intensive religious excuses in surpression, then stop having sex and proclaim themselves cured? This does not sound very impressive, espicially considering the rumored high rate of returning to practicing homosexuality. I say rumored, because though there are many incidents the ex-gay organisations have been refusing to release any type of statistical information - they trumpet the chaste 'successes,' but whenever someone failes it's attributed to lack of faith rather than a flaw in the idea of ex-gays. These ex-gay programs have earned the distinction of being officially condemned as potentially harmful by the APA, and even have managed to chalk up a few suicides.
So you really don't have my sympathy. I put your ex-gay programs in the same class as homeopathy, acupuncture and crystal therepy: Worthless quackery, exploiting the ignorant and desperate for profit and political gain.
- RomeroWasRight, on 11/19/2008, -3/+11Jennifer, please. You are embarrassing yourself. Surely you understand who and what the Taliban is, and has done, don't you? Surely you cannot believe in your heart of hearts that there is any equivalency whatsoever between Christians who pray outside a gay bar, and the Taliban.
Please, restore my faith in the goodwill of some liberals, and tell me you're just being hyperbolic.- NinaOdell, on 11/19/2008, -2/+3I'm a liberal and a Buddhist. I believe in giving utmost respect to people of all Faiths.
I'm not going to lie - I certainly don't like this video.
However, as I've said previously, it feels a lot like those folks not only knew what they were getting into (someone else here said they had been doing the same thing for months - apparently without incident since they'res no video of that). - NinaOdell, on 11/19/2008, -2/+3Sorry - had a problem with that post and didn't finish it.
Furthermore, it's seems like they would kind of know that this particular day was not a good time to continue. While I admire their steadfastness, I can see where it would seem to some like gloating - particularly people who had never seen them there before.
People are hurt, personally off
- NinaOdell, on 11/19/2008, -2/+3I'm a liberal and a Buddhist. I believe in giving utmost respect to people of all Faiths.
- ObamaIsCarter2, on 11/19/2008, -13/+11It's easy to be sympathetic to the "poor, oppressed" homosexuals of San Francisco from the comfort of your heterosexual-friendly environment in Missouri...try talkng to a former homosexual about the threats, harassments and attacks they endure from their active homosexual friends, once they have chosen not to participate in the gay lifestyle any more!! Ex-gays are one of the TRULY oppressed groups of our time, because they are living proof that homosexuality is a CHOICE and not a biological imperative!!