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White-hot molten steel spills and kills 32 Chinese workers

timesonline.co.uk — At a metal factory in North East China, molten steel engulfed an adjacent room where workers had gathered for a routine shift. change. Rescuers were unable to get closer because of the intense heat emitted from the “white-hot” liquid metal which rose to 1,500 C (2,732 F).

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  • Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -66/+17Insert typical insensitive joke.
    • xTRUMANx, on 10/12/2007, -26/+10@Akaji
      You sick insensitive bastard. How can say such a thing. Hey, who switched off my sarcasm detection module?
    • Lyanto, on 10/12/2007, -25/+16One person survived with minor injuries, though oddly enough he says he's going to change his name to "Steelmember".
    • slowmo, on 10/12/2007, -56/+168I found a picture: http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/sadogoat/carbs.jpg
    • TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -20/+11Those steelworkers all trained on Super Blacksmith Killer, it's just a fact, the FBI has seen the videos and none of their heartrates were above 60bpm. There's no way someone being burned to death by hot metal for the first time could do that without having trained on a blacksmithing simulator, I'm sorry, that's just how it is. Please hire me as an expert witness. Thank you.
    • moft, on 10/12/2007, -11/+31FTFA:

      “About a dozen family members were outside the crematorium"

      By that did they mean the factory, or a more traditional crematorium?
    • nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5wait, are you trying to tell me 32 people burned to death in a crematorium? I think that's pretty normal...
    • BlackAle, on 10/12/2007, -16/+4Judging by some who were digged down in this thread, it shows they were probably digged down by bigoted Americans, and shows exactly why the world feels the way they do.
    • steelmaverick, on 10/12/2007, -10/+35B-b-b-but.....Rosie O'Donnel said that fire can't melt steel!!!

      Inaccurate.

      /sarcasm
    • TheTaoOfBill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+71If these were American deaths slowmo's comment would have been buried all the way to China.
    • BlackAle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+35@thetaoofbill

      So true, it just shows the insular nature of many in the US.
    • dvpdziyn, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Slowmo could get more dggs for cleverness if his joke weren;t so sadly insensitive. Imagine a picture-based joke at the expense of the 32 lives lost in Virginia. You guys are better than this.
    • CAvenger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+45"You guys are better than this."

      You must be new here.
    • cambrown99, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2ouch
    • Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11"So true, it just shows the insular nature of many in the US."

      Oh please, when it's any other time, all I hear is "U.S. aren't the only people who are on the internet. The U.S. is so introverted."
      Then when someone makes an insensitive (but I have to admit I chuckled) joke, all of a sudden Americans are the only people on the internet who'd say such a thing. You and your country are just like any other country: We all think our side of the lawn is greener than your's. Get over yourself and your country.
    • mrbeagle, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10What a horrible way to die. One moment you're digging through your lunchbox, chatting with your buddies, thinking about going home and hugging your family... next thing you know, a burning wave of death swallows the room, your friends, your life.

      Slowmo, kindly go ***** yourself, thanks. Go ahead and digg me down, you insensitive bastards.
  • MrHighSide, on 10/12/2007, -79/+15Buried inaccurate: Fire can't melt steel.
    • thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -27/+7I knew a truther that would popup.
    • thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -30/+3Whoa, that came out funny.

      -I knew that a truther would popup.
    • joeshlub, on 10/12/2007, -12/+71your a god damn idiot. Not only can it melt steel, it can burn it. What do you think blacksmiths used to work steel, lava? Magic? I have a friend who's into colonial demonstrations of wood turning and black smithing, and it's really not that hard to melt it. If you just give it enough oxygen, it will burn it.

      This is the problem with digg, idiots like you who think they know everything and then call ***** without having any evidence.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksmith if your too lazy to find out your wrong yourself.
    • i4mt3hwin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@joe

      He's talking about the fire that melted the steel in the WTC. Even though he's still a moron for making the link.

      This is a unfortunate accident, but to be expected, as china has extremely weak safety policies.
    • SillyRabbits, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Actually, I thought mrhighside was just making fun of Roise O'Donnell for saying, earlier this year, that fire can't melt steel (when talking about the WTC).
    • catalysis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12@mrhighside

      This is why you have to put /sarcasm after your comment on digg, even when it should be blatantly obvious.
    • EntangledPhysx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Oh, are we playing the Rosie O'Donnel game!! I love this game!! Act like we don't know anything based on science!!! FACT: fire CANT melt steal!! LOLOL

  • Wonderkind, on 10/12/2007, -6/+98Well, that's extremely sad, but I'd rather get killed by white hot steel than by extremely warm steel.
    • blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Some like it hot.
    • DigiSkin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1ok... funny and all... the comments I mean, not the accident.

      but HOW THE HELL does someone call this a "mishap?!?" wouldnt this be some sort of tragic accident? A mishap is when i stub my toe. no?
  • holyskeleton, on 10/12/2007, -31/+3while the number is similar to the VTech number, the impact is much smaller.
    • klawz, on 10/12/2007, -14/+9Ya think? one was an accident, one was 32 counts of murder, and 25+ counts of attempted murder.
    • CurtHowland, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16"while the number is similar to the VTech number, the impact is much smaller."

      Indeed. No guns to blame, so it won't get much press or any political attention.

    • BlackAle, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5one was an accident, the other had warnings, but they were ignored.
    • haveacigar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Right, so because they live in China their deaths are less important than if they were American. Yes it was an accident, but it was still a terrible loss of life which doesn't grant people the right to make a joke of this.
    • cspivack, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1While it's the same amount of people dead, and is certainly a tragedy, first of all, they're Chinese, so ya know, why would Americans care about that? Also, not a shooting spree, Americans love violence, so this just isn't "sexy" enough to get good ratings.
    • humannn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Absolutely correct. Context matters. The VT deaths are more noteworthy because they were deliberate. This accident, as far as anyone knows, was purely unintentional.

      Another example of context: The pain of being tortured by a sadist and the pain of giving birth to a child. Both could be the same level of discomfort, but one would likely require years of counseling to get over while the other usually doesn't.
  • davewashere, on 10/12/2007, -12/+63"This is the first time in the history of the world that molten steel has killed a Chinese person."
    - Rosie O'Donnell, physics expert and historian
    • jun2san, on 10/12/2007, -15/+51actually....she said "ching chong ching chong"
    • TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -9/+21Expert testimony from a big white chick that wears underwear with dickholes in em is bound to be compelling in any matter.
    • tidu, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3"We've got Ching... King... here, but they said we can't interview him because he's a live bear and he will literally bite your head off.

      Get you here. You, Panda... Jerk!"
  • feeser, on 10/12/2007, -23/+6Pictures?

    Sad, surely. But man, molten steel spilling everywhere has got to be entertaining.
    • zybch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17True. While I certainly don't want to see the victims be immolated by the steel, pics or videos of the tons and tons of molten metal 'sloshing' about would just be ***** cool!
      Also, you just know that one of them did the T2 thumbs-up thing!
  • KuntaKinte, on 10/12/2007, -83/+6boo ***** hoo, that's what the dogs they eat feel like when they are being skinned alive and beaten with sticks
    • therealrico, on 10/12/2007, -7/+43What are you a vegatarian? Otherwise what about the bacon, hamburgers, steak you eat. I am not a fan of eating a dog, but it is a bit hypocritical to complain about someone eating dogs as opposed to any other animals.
    • thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -18/+8I hate peta.
    • PATSCRU, on 10/12/2007, -5/+43not only that, but bashing other nations' culinary habits is a great way of holding a neon "I'M ***** IGNORANT" sign over your head....good job kunta
    • royall64, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5No, the dogs feel more like they are having their skin torn off and being hit with twigs than being burned alive with molten hot metal. Unfortunately you've never felt either of these feelings, but with too much luck you will feel both at the same time very, very soon.
    • max420, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13You sir, are an idiot.... (@KuntaKinte)
    • royall64, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1"...Unfortunately you've never felt either of these feelings..."

      "You" as in kuntakite, sorry for not specifying.
    • TheTaoOfBill, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6I'm pretty sure we don't skin animals alive... China does.

      We have a better animal treatment record than china does. Hell what do you expect with how poorly China treats it's humans let alone it's animals.
    • TheTaoOfBill, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5I also want to point out that saying they deserve it for killing animals in cruel ways is stupid. Humans > animals. I don't care what the animal is or how you killed it. No one deserves death for killing an animal.. Especially since considering these guys are steel workers I doubt they had anything to do with skinning animals alive.
    • Eryin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A country that big with so many people.

      There isn't always enough food to go around so anything will make do and in comparison a chinese family eats much less meat a week compared to an american family.
  • Ubergoober3, on 10/12/2007, -9/+10@kuntakinte
    wtf
    • Jagdwulfe, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1HIS NAME IS TOM!
      *breaks out the bullwhip*
  • thenewnoise, on 10/12/2007, -8/+39When is Yale going to ban steel?
    • royall64, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Right after they tear down their steel building foundations and the steel nails holding their walls together, and destroy their entire heat, water, and gas pipe system and computer labs.
  • bumb1ebee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+44I hope they died before they had to watch the skin on their hands start peeling off like a glove. Damn, what a horrible way to die. RIP.
  • Sneakernets, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Wow this is bringing out truthers? y'all are truly sick.
  • doma, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2ouch!
  • PRocker267, on 10/12/2007, -21/+4Is it bad that i laughed when i first saw this story?
    • kavery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Yes.
    • nathanwalker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Bad? No. A sign that you are disturbed? Yes.
    • royall64, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16But don't worry, in Soviet Russia it would be fine to laugh.
  • opes, on 10/12/2007, -26/+4(I said)
    It's gettin' hot in here (so hot)
    So take off all your clothes
    I am gettin' so hot
    (uh uh uh uh)
    I wanna take my clothes off
    Oh it's gettin' hot in here (so hot)
    So take off all your clothes
    I am gettin' so hot
    (uh uh uh uh)
    I wanna take my clothes off
    Yeah yeah come on

    • kavery, on 10/12/2007, -10/+7Dugg down simply for referencing Nelly.
    • tidu, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3I'll admit, I laughed the hardest I've laughed all day at that comment.
    • oxymoron69, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2lol, it was lame... but that's why i laughed
      thanks!
  • hellotyler, on 10/12/2007, -6/+48RIP all these poor people. ***** you people who only seem to care about loss of life when it is somebody in your own country. This is damn near as many as VT. Just as sad. Loss of life is loss of life.
    • royall64, on 10/12/2007, -7/+30I don't think most Americans actually care or know about anything that happens anywhere beyond the US. Which would explain why half the comments in this story are the equivalent of painting a billboard to say "I'm ***** uneducated."
    • jazbek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Thanks, this is the first decent comment I've seen on here. My thoughts are with the families of the accident victims. This was a horrible event.
    • Arbus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15If I don't have any immediate relationships with the people involved, I don't let it affect me - otherwise I'd be in a constant state of grief, like you must be.

      Still, I care more than the Chinese government or businesses do. They have no regard for safety or human life.
    • jazbek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3@ royall64 - agree, and I'm american. :(
    • LordLOC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@royall64, please don't lump all Americans together. Not all of us are retards or selfish or uneducated. Some of us DO care about other people, and do hurt when we hear about horrible accidents like this.

      Plus I think the 13 year old brigade invaded this story once again. :(
    • ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10If something like that Han Solo joke was posted in a VT shooting article, it would have received hundreds of negative diggs and many people would have called the poster sick, inhumane and so on.
      This hypocrisy is rampant.
    • thotpoizn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Good God, this is horrible. Where do any of you find humor in this? Families are dealing with shock, horror, and grief from a kind of loss that I sincerely hope even the most immature and insensitive of you do not soon have to face. Have a little human decency here, this is not an occasion for clever quips.
    • tonyhon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2So sad to see the Han Solo picture have 60+ diggs, and many laughing comments.

      Do you think people in other countries laugh about victims in VT?
    • oxymoron69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11yes....
      when i found out, i was like "Hey, that korean kid got a high score!"
    • Jagdwulfe, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It would be no different than Non-American making jokes about the Chimp in Chief nearly dying from choking on a pretzel.
  • ipodman715, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10What's with all these killings and deaths on Digg?
    • CurtHowland, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Blood sells papers.

      What, were you expecting human nature to change just because we're using computers instead of physical newspapers?
    • Unremarkable, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Death makes the headlines. The more people you can kill off (and the more creatively you do it), the faster you`ll hit first-page.
    • jimsf, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4CurtHowland I think you meant Boiling Blood from White Hot Steel sells papers
    • ReqX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think the phrase you're looking for is:

      "If it bleeds, it leads."
  • RST1123, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3How many of the workers were children?
    • royall64, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Well, if you want to know, just think of the number of times a chick has glanced at you and not thrown up.
    • RST1123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8that's a relief.
    • idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1That's like pretty much every time a girl has looked at me ever. In fact, I'm not aware of a single incident in which *anybody* threw up just by glancing at me.
  • thekak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2***** Ow......
  • superKduper, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3The article left out an important detail:

    This was an iPod factory! The 32 who died were the 11 and 12 year olds who make your iPods!
    • TheTaoOfBill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Ipods are made of steel? If they were they probably wouldn't break so damn much.
  • jimsf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Did they have to say Chinese? Now there is going to be a racist backlash against Chinese steel.
  • smartalecks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6just seeing this title nearly put me in tears

    second time this week :/
    • MisterFlaut, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1LOL.

      So corny.

      I highly doubt you were almost in tears. Nice try though.
  • LittLeBunny2o5, on 10/12/2007, -10/+0Not sure if this has been said, but isn't it sad how the number killed in this accident is the number the Korean (Asian!) kid killed at VT (not including himself)? Asians are obsessed with the number 32. No offense to Asians or anything.
    • catalysis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8When I read the first sentence I thought you were going to make an insightful comment, but then you just let me down by saying something completely retarded.
    • LittLeBunny2o5, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0Don't worry, I still think this is a sad tragedy. Tizz66 is right, too. Americans (and especially me) should be nicer to other nationalities. I just had to say what I said :D
  • TheAssuager, on 10/12/2007, -12/+0haha, hahahahaha
  • Qwiggalo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9White-hot Molten kills 32 and itself; Jackass Thompson blames video games.
  • mattofasia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3hopefully China's factories will think about implementing some kind of more intensive safety measures. But most likely this will be bribed away and life will go in its short miserable way for all the suckers who believe the Chinese 'government' actually controls anything there.
  • Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Damn video games kill another 32!!!! It's a world wide epidemic.

    /sarcasm.
  • tyreson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1american whites, the king of delivering implicit messages and vengeance propagandas. I see what you did here with the number 32 and asians here, wink*.
  • skoles, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Sarah Conner was seen running from the scene.
  • tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13A number of Americans die in an accident, it's a tragedy. A number of [other nationality] die in an accident, and it's ripe for jokes, disrespect and generally immaturity. And you wonder why the planet hates you? Bunch of *****.
    • skoles, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4I deal with tragedy through humor. And I await the day I can deal with yours.
    • Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3You just don't hear how we rip on each other. Americans aren't racists. We make fun of everyones misfortunes.
      Hell... we elected Bush TWICE!!!! Talk about your self deprecating humor.
    • tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3It's not racism, that implies there's some thought process going on. Nope, it's just sheer ignorance.
    • Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Intelligence and hard work is overrated. We know all gooks are better at math than us stoopid Americans, but it still didn't help them dodge that molten steel now. Did it?

      American workers would have never had that many killed. At least half those guys would have been on coffee break in an American factory.

      Always remember... the first 3 letters of Lazy are the same as the first 3 letters of Lazer!
      And Lazers are cool and futuristic.

      (Some times I leave the /sarcasm off just so i can watch the monkeys dance.)
  • LordLOC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Man, that is absolutely horrible. I'm so so sorry for those that lost their lives in this accident, and my thoughts go out to the families. I just hope China works on improving the safety at their industrial factories and what not, accidents like these should never happen. I can only imagine what those poor people went through before they (hopefully quickly) passed.

    And I'm an American, and some of these jokes and smart ass comments some of you are making are quite disturbing. Its horrible when anyone dies, or gets killed in an accident such as this. Why make fun of it, because your on a PC and can get away with it or something? Or is it that you are 13 years old and don't know any better yet?

    Sigh.
  • wbeavis, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1A Korean with two guns walks into a classroom one day...

    stop me if you've heard this one before.

    /if you can't laugh at the dead, oo pudding.
  • LiquidFusion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I hope to everything holy that these people died a very quick death.
  • Hakisaki, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8This is horrible...I can't believe some of you sick people can find this funny
    • TheTaoOfBill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Y = -X

      Where Y = Distance from tragedy
      X = Time before laughter is allowed
    • skoles, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1People had no problem when the term "going postal" came into mainstream. That was based on the rash of, you guessed it, postal workers going nuts & shooting up their offices. Why should saying something as equally disturbing as "going Korean" be any different?

      When will these naggers drop this double standard of who can be offended?
  • KuntaKinte, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1i love sayin stupid ***** just to piss people off
    • TheTaoOfBill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5In other words you're parents don't give you enough attention so you seek it by trolling online.
    • LittLeBunny2o5, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3That's because you're a dumbass and you have no heart. Seriously, get a life.
  • vln004, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5am i a bad person for wanting to see pictures?
    • iamjames, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1what kind of pictures are you expecting?? It's 30 tonnes (33 "short" tons) of liquid steel at 2,700 F. They were vaporized instantly.

      10,000 gallons of water is 40 tons.
      http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tons+of+water+in+a+10000+gallons

      So imagine roughly 7,500 tons of water, the roughly the size of a 16' x 32' pool, engulfing a room. Now imagine it's liquid steel @ 2,700 F flowing like water. There'd be nothing left to photograph.
  • Jinekace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6

    Those poor people just suffered the worst kinda of dying. The death was quick, probably ended in seconds; but within this period, they experienced the most intensive pain that a human can feel. Then the extremely hot steel came in and vaporized everything. There won't be anything left for their family to collect, they are gone now, completely wiped out from the face of earth.

    Some of the comments/jokes above are really tasteless.
    • skoles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Their nerve endings would've been seared almost instantly. If anything, they would've felt cold for an instant.
    • Jinekace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not all of them were directly under the hot steel; Some of them tried to run away, or jumped on the tables and chairs, but couldn't make it.
    • laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4>>"Those poor people just suffered the worst kinda of dying. The death was quick, probably ended in seconds; but within this period, they experienced the most intensive pain that a human can feel"

      How little you know about pain. You should study American torture methods.

      Real pain is having nitric acid injected into your testicles, your spine exposed and sanded down with fine-grain sandpaper, your nasal passages filled with pepper-extract, your stomach filled with compressed air or your prostate shocked with a modified TENS unit.

      Anyhow, America has moved into a new field of scientific study: tormenting the innocent. Land of the free - home of the brave!
  • darkhero, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2That is what I call cheap steel!
  • Ental, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@vln004

    same question...
  • Groovel76, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@ diggers making a joke of this

    HAVE SOME ***** RESPECT!
    • laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1This is the Internet, junior. If you want righteous indignation, go preach to your teddy bears.
  • laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Was their combined age 310 years?
  • xtc46, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0The video games are to blame.


    *wait for Jack Thompson to get up on his soap box*
  • gerbil20, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1It was the 2nd time in history when fire melted steel.
    /sarc
    On a more serious note, I am extremely pissed that we all talk about the massacre @ VTech and news about those souls are on backburner. Ok it was not a massacre perpetrated by a madman. It was still a horrific tragedy that led to loss of life of innocents nevertheless. It just shows that some people are more equal than the others.
    P.S. I just hope that poor folks didn't suffer.
  • Denithor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Dude, WTF!!!! No nekkid pix!!!!
  • unholyleek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Guy that posted the Han Solo pic... amazing!
  • diggdong, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Honest question: did they recycle the steel?
  • discozone2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1owned!!!!!
  • tech10171968, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"How little you know about pain. You should study American torture methods.

    Real pain is having nitric acid injected into your testicles, your spine exposed and sanded down with fine-grain san"dpaper, your nasal passages filled with pepper-extract, your stomach filled with compressed air or your prostate shocked with a modified TENS unit.

    Anyhow, America has moved into a new field of scientific study: tormenting the innocent. Land of the free - home of the brave!"

    @"laserblaze": How little you know about *anything*. This original poster is showing sympathy to a tragic incident and what do you do in response? You take the time for a little America-bashing (never mind that your little political tirade has absolutely nothing to do with the story). Maybe you should STFU and let grown people discuss this issue. Incidentally, I'm getting more than a little tired of all these blanket statements you all make about the U.S. What the f_ck make you 13-year olds some sort of experts about on what an entire nation of 300 million people are thinking?

    And don't give me that bullsh!t about how we voted for Bush - Bush won only 51% of the vote. For those of you who seem to be mathematically challenged, that means 49% never wanted Bush to be President. By making all these blanket statements about "all you Americans are this or that", you are basically telling the half of the country that actually *AGREES* with you that they don't exist. Think before you open your mouth, or STFU.
  • m4csrgh3yk3v, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Chinese government quick to release a footage of survivors
    http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3711/chinesebv6.jpg
  • Thorox, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Some people deal with tragic events with comedy. No matter the who, the where, the when or the why. Maybe they are jackasses, maybe they are dealing with it.

    Industrial accidents are typically caused by equipment malfunctions, or human ERROR. VT was a deliberate act. The events are not the same. There were plenty of people in the US saying the US "deserved" it as well. For example, an armed madman deserves to be killed. An operator does not deserve to be executed for pushing the wrong button.

    Finally, I feel bad for the people involved in any tragedy and their families. Having said that, I can also appreciate a witty observation or comment in conjunction with the event. These two things are not mutually exclusive.

    Finally, all you people who "HOPE" that this will actually have an effect on China's safety issues are living on another planet. Get off your whining asses and fly to China and do something about it. This is like fat ass Sally going to film the starving children and spending thousands of dollars to do so, instead of moving there and HELPING the cause. You ***** people make me sick.
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