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house.gov — "Click" on Video "Housing Bill" Today as an American you got shafted. Unlimited printed money to bail out Freddie and Fannie, Raise the National debt by $800,000,000,000. Finger printing of all MORTGAGE people, and now ALL credit card purchases over the NET reported to the IRS!! All in one VOTE...IT PASSED!! Take 8 minutes and listen! Horrible!!

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  • crxvfr, on 07/23/2008, -36/+880Isn't there a (discounted) presidential candidate that's been predicting this all along?
    People thought he and his supporters were crazy tin-foil-hat wearing idiots.

    Ever hear the cliche about the shoe being on the other foot?
    Wait 6-8 months and lets see who's wearing the tin-foil hat then.
    (as if anybody will be able to afford tin-foil)

    • Skafia, on 07/24/2008, -17/+55Aluminum foil, actually.
      • kemp34, on 07/24/2008, -3/+63Won't be able to afford either one!
      • slowmo, on 07/24/2008, -7/+88I just use Doritos bags turned inside out.
      • quesi, on 07/24/2008, -5/+67My heads too big, and now I have Cool Ranch® dust in my hair!
      • tidu, on 07/24/2008, -1/+18That's a privilege
      • catfish182, on 07/24/2008, -43/+2you know i was under the impression that we could agree to disagree.
        I do not need Paul to tell me the govt is screwing me over.
        but answer this members of the church of paul, if paul's message is so huge and important why did he not try to work harder to get on main stream media? IF he did care so much why would he not stop until every single American knows the truth?
        Why is paul not going on the interview circuit still pointing out the wrong doings the govt does to its people? He has the proof correct? so if its so damn easy why does he not do everything he can to get the word out?
      • NorthMass, on 07/24/2008, -3/+51The media ignored him catfish182, it is as simple as that. LOL what do you want Ron Paul to do magically inform every human being on the earth of how government should be run when the media shuns him, the man got over one million supporters with zero media coverage and zero funds outside of grassroots fund-raising.
      • ayeroxor, on 07/24/2008, -1/+16Sorry for the comment abuse: Youtube mirror for those having trouble with accessing the primary site:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T89r6WuBjsE
      • Joepoag, on 07/24/2008, -3/+7I made an Aluminum foil hat. I think it is quite stylish,
      • catfish182, on 07/24/2008, -16/+3northmass,
        so while his message is something that everyone American should hear since he can not get on main stream media then its not his fault?
        you paulites say he needs to be heard as he is the only person speaking the truth. So why does he not try to work with MSM so he can be heard? Its that important isnt it? He has the answers doesnt he?
        you can tell me that he has a million supporters (I debate a million) but what do his supporters do? criticize others for not following and not questioning what paul says?

        Why not take some responsibility and admit your guy did nothing to try to get time on MSM. Sure you can say Paul kept it real and look what keeping it real did for him. paul and paulites say they have this great message that we need to know as we are losing our rights yet it seems paul isnt really trying that hard to get the word out.

        so instead of digging me down why not explain it.
      • Cov3rt, on 07/24/2008, -1/+9Aluminium foil actually.
      • mikelieman, on 07/24/2008, -1/+7Don't you think the system's really, really broken if the *best* candidate can be excluded by the corporations who own the broadcast outlets, and you're left with *their* chosen options?
      • coyote1284, on 07/24/2008, -2/+2Aluminum foil APMLIFIES the control signals! That's why you can't get tin foil anymore.
      • silentboom, on 07/24/2008, -2/+2Have you seen the price of aluminum?
      • Reese268, on 07/24/2008, -0/+14@catfish:

        Paul can't FORCE the MSM to give him interviews and airtime. He does the best he can. You act as though every station in the world is desperate to have him on the air, and it's only his unwillingness to do so that is causing his message to not be heard. You can question a million supporters all you want, but that's how many people voted for him. Arguably there are more, who simply voted otherwise because they didn't want to vote for someone they didn't think would win.

        Saying he did nothing to get airtime would be stupid, he did everything he could to get media coverage.
      • catfish182, on 07/24/2008, -4/+1i disagree Reese
        Paul did not take advantage of what limited time he had (and it was very limited everyone can admit) and i am glad you feel he tried but to me if his message is so important and he seems ot be the only smart man then if he is such a patriot why would he not try to get the word out. No matter what type of person he is the message would overwrite it.
      • Parapadrifter, on 08/23/2008, -0/+1@catfish He did try... YOU, ME, US, we failed the message. The message has always been there, but, I don't know what you expect him to do? Exaust all of his funding to spread the message that the Main Stream Media will scrutinize, and thus craft the ideology of the viewers? NO... he is attempting to establish a movement. He has. Thats the only way we will change this monstrosity of a central government. --catfish.. your childish argument painfully reveals the reason our country is in the shape it's in. YOU, ME, US, we want somebody else to do the work. So, put up or STFU and let the grown ups handle it.
    • DeathJux, on 07/24/2008, -6/+112You realize you're preaching to the choir, right? Digg was roiling with Ron Paul mania for a few months, so just about everyone here is aware of what he stands for and what he predicted.

      Now, if you could get that message out to Joe Average, then we'd be closer to getting somewhere.
      • Hoobam, on 07/24/2008, -35/+6what's the nose-blowing part have to do with anything? I mean, I get why an Obama hater would say "rockstar", but why the nose-blowing? Is it your intent to comment on his young age or is it some back-handed reference to cocaine?

        Either way, like it or not, Ron Paul will never be president.
      • Hoobam, on 07/24/2008, -5/+26Thank you for the informative response...that is pretty weird they applauded a nose blow... :)
      • MrSpookyPants, on 07/24/2008, -1/+46wait, was that just a civil exchange I just read? wtf is going on here?
    • theaceoffire, on 07/24/2008, -4/+148McCain is a joke compared to Ron.... I really, truly wish Ron Paul was going against Obama instead of that sellout.
      • McShr3dd3r, on 07/24/2008, -4/+31Now that would have been an interesting election!
      • CrimsonScythe, on 07/24/2008, -1/+18Particularly since McCain's senior economic adviser is Phil Gramm, the guy who caused the whole mess that this bill is supposed to alleviate...

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Gramm
        http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/ ...
      • DAVENP0RT, on 07/24/2008, -3/+2Not anymore, Crimson, he stepped down on July 18th.
      • aliengoods, on 07/24/2008, -4/+8Even though their views are 180 degrees different on many issues, that is still one election I would have trouble deciding in. As it stands, Obama over McCain is so easy it's almost instinctual.
      • springboks, on 07/24/2008, -0/+7An Obama Ron Paul debate would be sweet. I really think voters would have to put thought into who they want in an Obama v Ron Paul scenario.

        We'd also have a lot more interesting conversations/ arguments than we are now. But that's the reality, this country is in the dark ages "OMG Obama is a Muslim and Black" "Mc Cain is old and white"
    • twiztidsinz, on 07/24/2008, -14/+35Its not a matter of Ron Paul being right or wrong...
      It's Ron Paul's ideas being so radical and unorthodox, not to mention damaging to the corrupt people in power, that anything he tried to do if elected would be fought tooth and nail, until by the time it passed it would be a raped husk of its original conception.
      • Cryptocracy, on 08/17/2008, -2/+66truth is treason in the empire of lies....
      • DrPaul2008, on 07/24/2008, -2/+17First of all, that's not really true. Secondly, that sort of gridlock in government was meant to be. Third, having an advocate for liberty as president can only help.

        There are many things a president could do (or undo) without the cooperation of congress because there have been so many illegal moves made that went unchallenged by previous administrations. Plus, thanks to our wonderful current president/congress duo, the president himself could declare the situation a catastrophe, and do whatever the hell he wanted. Obviously, no one should have that power, but it's in the books.

        Check out what Harry Browne said he would do on day 1 of his presidency sometime.
      • V3n0M, on 07/24/2008, -0/+6That doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
    • More4, on 07/24/2008, -55/+3LOL, the Tin Hat boys are out in full force tonight. No homework I guess now that school is out.
    • spreadfred, on 07/24/2008, -42/+2wait- ron paul ran for president? you could have fooled me. i never knew.
      • DrPaul2008, on 07/24/2008, -1/+9That doesn't surprise anyone. Not that you'd know to vote for him even if you did.
    • gbates31, on 07/24/2008, -21/+2your comment made me LOL. thanks.
    • p0s3r, on 07/24/2008, -15/+45Those cocksucking Dem's also snuck in millions of dollars to La Raza and ACORN.
      • notanidiot, on 07/24/2008, -4/+3when you call them "cocksucking Dem's", it kind of removes any credibility of your point.
      • BDOUG, on 07/24/2008, -2/+2Typical neo-con, focus on the millions to attempt to distract us from the billions. This bill should be despised by everyone, regardless of party affiliation.
      • mrraven200, on 07/24/2008, -3/+1Yeah Pos3r how dare poor people fight back for a living wage and to keep their houses from being repossessed by globalist bankers? Why they might start thinking they are human beings with lives and basic rights and not just cannon fodder for Bush's wars of aggression to be tossed aside as "useless eaters" once the empire has used them up.

        http://www.acorn.org/

        P.S. Just calling us "socialists" isn't shutting us up anymore, what are you going to do?
      • p0s3r, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1P.S. mrraven200, when your "socialists" commit rampant voter fraud, they're a bunch of cocksucking criminals getting government hand outs from corrupt democrats who want their continued help in stealing elections.

        http://www.google.com/search?q=ACORN+voter+fraud&i ...
    • Minarchian, on 07/24/2008, -1/+21It's time to take it locally, right to the home districts of these tyrants in Congress.

      Anyone have a link to see exactly who voted for this?

      Thanks.
      • Minarchian, on 07/24/2008, -2/+21I found a good link.

        http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h200 ...
        Find out how your congresscritter voted on this and raise some hell.

        BTW...this is a Nancy Pelosy bill...who woulda thunk? /s
      • DrPaul2008, on 07/24/2008, -1/+15This is exactly what http://www.downsizedc.org is for! Please check it out!
      • silentboom, on 07/24/2008, -5/+7All the ***** Liberal states voted for this *****. I'm shocked at Nevada and Mississippi joining in, but I guess the entire ***** country is goddamn liberal now. Soon we will be friggin socialist or communist. These sons of bitches just penalized me for taking out a good mortgage and being informed. This the what happens when these god forsaken Liberal bills are passed. We help the few andf hurt the majority. This is disgusting in America. What happened to feeling the consequences of your actions. This thinking is why kids are ***** up these days too. I'm ***** disgusted.
      • Zong, on 07/24/2008, -1/+3@silentboom I believe that Congress is made up of half Republican and half Democrat right now so you assumption that it's all liberals fault is quite stupid especially considering the Republicans have a history of Cooperate Welfare at the cost of the people. The bail out does not mean that people who took out a crappy mortgage get to keeps their houses it means that the companies that give them the crappy mortgage in the first place continue to stay in business and make ridiculous amounts of money. So before you start blaming liberals for something that only benefits a few, maybe you should think about where our tax dollars are really going cuz it sure as hell isn't my pocket.
      • Greg2k, on 07/24/2008, -4/+1Here's the complete list of congressmen who voted this:

        http://tinyurl.com/2q9j9y
      • silentboom, on 07/24/2008, -0/+5Uh......the Republicans are Liberal too, Neoconservative to be exact.
      • ThatGirlTasha, on 07/26/2008, -0/+1I only found two dems who voted against this. Sure, tons of retarded Republipukes voted for it, including the entire Republican delegation from my state, Nevada, but it is clear that dems overwhelmingly went for it. So much for "change." The only thing that has changed is a little d is behind the names of those raping the constitution. That will make it better, riiiiiight.
    • xBDVx, on 07/24/2008, -11/+27damn, no one is talking about this, eh?
      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25812594/
      http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/24/business/24 ...
      http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080723/bs_nm/fannie_f ...
      http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/23/news/economy/bc.co ...
      just to name a few.
      • Tchaikovsky08, on 07/24/2008, -3/+12I don't know why you're getting dugg down, those are all reasonable articles and legit sources. From the cnn article:

        "Congressional analysts estimated Tuesday that the rescue could cost $25 billion, but predicted there's a better than even chance it won't be needed at all."

        From the yahoo article: "Both (treasury secretary) Paulson and the companies have said the credit line was just a backstop and they had no intention of using it."

        ...Though the fact that the national debt is growing from 9.8 trillion to 10.6 trillion isn't a good sign at all...
      • Kingmishima, on 07/24/2008, -0/+9I like how not a single one of those articles mentions the credit card tracking or mortgage fingerprinting. But it's ok because all that money "won't be needed at all" ... see we're safe.

        I'm going to go stock up on lube now, seems I'll be needing it soon.
    • topgigmedia, on 07/24/2008, -21/+15This Just In! Urine samples will be sent to the US government from public Urinals. Penis cams will also be installed.
    • AngusSteel, on 07/24/2008, -10/+2I cant believe its not butter except with the typo I cant believe i was wrong theri similar because american believe that they can eat as much fake butter and it wont hurt them
    • Ockniel, on 07/24/2008, -2/+9Is ron paul still in the run for president? will he be on the ballot?
      • DukeLeto2, on 07/24/2008, -0/+7He's still in the run for the Republican candidacy for president, however, he, like Huckabee and Romney, have suspended their campaigns. That means that those Republican delegates that are bound to any of the above or McCain can opt to not vote the first round (hence unbinding themselves) and then vote for whomever they choose thereafter. The Republican party's only growth this election cycle was by those who became involved in the process via Ron Paul's message and there are plenty of those that made it to national. Albeit, it's a small chance now but neither the Christian Coalition nor the Goldwater conservatives weren't this strong by a long shot the first time they came out either. This is the long game.

        /Republican Texas State Alternate Delegate and former liberal Democrat.
    • goldfishey, on 07/24/2008, -0/+20speaking of tinfoil hats...
      can someone tell me why u would need to fingerprint mortgagees? it just seems like a good way to get fingerprints on record for nothing....
      next i suppose they would be wanting to fingerprint renters as well.
      • j1ggy, on 07/24/2008, -1/+16Welcome to the Hotel Fascism my friend. Please check your freedom in at the front desk. Need a wake up call? No problem, the line is already tapped. Enjoy your stay.
    • kosser, on 07/24/2008, -0/+10digg is not the tv, we can all whine and cry about this, but i say 99% of the diggers will do nothing else but just that. how many of you will actually call your senator? how many of you will actually pass this information to people and spread the truth about the people in our government now openly destroying our nation in front of our faces? do something and then you have the right to whine about this because if you just sit there you are part of the reason why it's happening.
      • 000dnj, on 07/24/2008, -1/+2Did you just say DiggTV?
      • mcbowler, on 07/24/2008, -1/+9Yeah, well.. senators should ask us. They should go on TV and youtube and digg and ask us what we think. Then at least they would be better informed.

        I want a bill that says bills must be debated on digg before the next bill gets put through.
      • catfish182, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Kosser you have a excellent point.
        For all the smart people we have here in Digg most do not do *****.
        Some do and thats great. I dont even care who they support as long as they are part of the process.

        Do you American Digg users know who your representatives are? (With out looking it up)

        I know mine and i remind them that they work for me and many others as much as i can. These debates and flame sessions are fine but if people do not act on them (get out of the house even) then they are just as guilty as the people taking the freedoms away.

        McBowler,
        the people elected will not do anything like that unless the majority tells them to. If you want to see that then contact all the people that represent you and tell them. Go door to door and get people into your idea.
    • XanderDee, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2Well Said!
    • DrDreyfus, on 07/24/2008, -8/+1Ron Paul doesn't "believe" in evolution...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JyvkjSKMLw

      you guys are such tools, it's unbelievable and really sad.
      • Reese268, on 07/24/2008, -1/+9what the hell do his beliefs on evolution have to do with anything, you elitist prick?
      • RabidAngel, on 07/24/2008, -1/+5You bring evolution into a thread about economics? God damn, what a douchebag.
      • DukeLeto2, on 07/24/2008, -1/+6That's the beauty. He can believe whatever he wants. He also believes in pro-life. However those beliefs do not translate into the power that should be held at the federal level and hence become irrelevant. His philosophical framework is all inclusive if you believe in liberty first.
      • V2012, on 07/24/2008, -1/+7He's right. Evolution IS just a theory. Do you even know what a theory is? It means that we don't know for sure what happened, we just have some data that we're trying to make sense of. Science isn't a religion, it doesn't require your faith. It's largely a collection of BEST GUESSES based on data collected, and nothing more.

        I agree with Reese 268, you are an elitist prick. Did you become an atheist because you were sick of religious intolerance? Well SURPRISE! You're still a member of a religion, and one of the most intolerant of all!
      • DrDreyfus, on 07/24/2008, -3/+2@V2012
        I suggest you look up the word theory.
        Gravity is also a scientific theory.

        @RabidAngel
        How does that make me a douche bag? All of you are circle jerking about Ron Paul being the messiah so I thought I would let you all know that he's a fundamentalist and would impede America's scientific advancement - just like George Bush.

        @Reese268
        Really? You want a president who doesn't believe in a veritable scientific truth? His rejection of evolution speaks volume about his character and the direction he would lead the country.
        How does that make me an elitist? Do you even know what that means?

        @DukeLeto2
        Agreed. He has the right to believe whatever he wants and it is a beautiful right guaranteed by our forefathers. However, I personally don't want the next president to be a total ignoramus.

        I find it fascinating that you all are alright with the next president of the United States of America essentially being a fundamentalist hick (his constitutional ideals aside).
    • Nielsio, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3LewRockwell.com Podcast #1 - Ripped Off
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvM0qE3MibY&feature ...

      ..on the state-bankster combine.
    • notanidiot, on 07/24/2008, -11/+2I never heard Ron Paul mention any of this, and I followed him well. Anyone can say that the govt is spending too much money, and offer a solution, but it doesn't mean his solution is going to work.

      Let Ron Paul get in office, and eliminate social programs, and you'll really need your guns then. I for one am not in the mood for a race war, so all you Ron Paul ***** can go ***** off.
      • obelisky, on 07/24/2008, -7/+2well said. sad thing is most of these idiots have fantasizes about using those guns so
      • gabulldawg79, on 07/24/2008, -1/+4And all you fascists can move to Cuba and China and don't let the door hit you in rump on the way out. The U.S. is a nation of laws founded by the Supreme Law of the Land the Constitution. You and people like you have supported candidates that have violated the Constitution and are treasoners. You sir are a treasoner.
      • insurgente, on 07/24/2008, -3/+1"Fascists"? Being against Ron Paul makes you a fascist? Our (communist, socialist and anarchist) organizations has fought fascism since it was first invented by the capitalists, and we would never, in a million years, vote for market fundamentalist Ron Paul. Many of us wouldn't vote at all.

        People who, today, would vote for Ron Paul would probably be supportive of Hitler, Mussolini during the 1930's and 1940's.

        Cuba isn't fascist. Neither is the PRC. They are state capitalist single-party dictatorships.

        I sure am a treasoner, though.
      • notanidiot, on 07/25/2008, -1/+1gabulldawg,

        The Constitution gives people the right to vote for whoever the ***** they want, and whoever gets the most votes wins. I don't think voting can ever be treason, because its expressly allowed in the Constitution, and noone is allowed to tell you who you can or cannot support. Thats the whole idea behind voting. This isn't quantum physics were talking here.

        Heres another little hint for you, Ron Paul is against the income tax. The 16th amendment allows an income tax. How is that following the Supreme Law?
      • Jeffmr1, on 08/01/2008, -0/+1Well except for that time when the supreme court said that "the sixteenth amendment gives congress no new powers of taxation" thing, but who really cares about supreme court cases anyway?
      • Samurai77, on 08/14/2008, -0/+1You CAN ***** OFF
    • N01SE, on 07/24/2008, -2/+2The only way to change things is to become a member of congress with enough fellow members to support your legislation.

      You can contact your senators/members of congress, but they all regard people as misinformed and unable to make educated decisions (which is unfortunately true in most cases).
      You can vote, but that really doesn't mean you will see lots of changes in legislation, just a change in leadership (Every candidate talks about change, few actually implement it)
      You can revolt if you want, but without everybody doing so (even the private sector), you would be pimp slapped by the military.

      The working class are powerless. Have a great day.
      • insurgente, on 07/24/2008, -2/+3"The working class are powerless. Have a great day."

        So it will continute to be as long as capitalism is the reigning system. It's in effect the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie (upper classes).
      • N01SE, on 07/25/2008, -1/+0Communism, Socialism, Anarchy is not any better Swedish meatball, yes we know your agenda. Read a history book.
    • cyndezu, on 07/24/2008, -0/+11Join Ron Paul in the Campaign for Liberty
      http://www.campaignforliberty.com/
    • mrgreenjeans9, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2it's not too late folks.
      if we ALL vote our conscience instead of voting for one of the two media candidates, we MIGHT just get somewhere.
    • WillBraden, on 07/24/2008, -3/+1right or not about this, he still published racist and homophobic newsletters, and wants to overturn roe vs. wade...that's a dealbreaker for most liberally minded people, whether he is against the war or not.
    • richmomz, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2At least one person in Congress is doing their job and representing the interests of the American people. It's unfortunate though that so many of us are easily steered away from the truth with a few flashy bits of media and entertainment to keep us distracted long enough for our rights to be stripped away right from under our noses.
  • flavioribeiro, on 07/24/2008, -13/+631THE BILL MUST NOT PASS IN THE SENATE.

    http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/525-RE ...
    SPAM ALL THE SENATORS ALL DAY LONG.
    • thingamajig, on 07/24/2008, -2/+13If you are interested in stuff like this. You might be interested in this also

      http://del.icio.us/easyhistory
    • dball48, on 07/24/2008, -4/+52I guess it's worth a try to tell the senators not to vote for this but it's hard to be optimistic about them actually listening to us. Remember when we told them not to vote for the fisa bill? Obama and his buddies told us that they didn't give a ***** what we want. They have all made it pretty clear that they are gonna do what ever they feel like and there's not a goddamn thing we can do about it.
      • dragon76, on 07/24/2008, -30/+4Hillary Clinton didn't vote for FISA. I doubt she'll vote for this. This is what you get for being sexist. I plan on moving to Europe. Canada has ***** weather.
      • KJSatz, on 07/24/2008, -2/+23If Hillary had won the nomination, she would have voted for FISA.
      • DrPaul2008, on 07/24/2008, -0/+6I agree. However, Harry Browne, Jim Babka, Steve Dasbach, and Perry Willis came up with a very good tool for us to use to try to get their attention.

        Please check this out! http://www.downsizedc.org/
      • bluezinc, on 07/24/2008, -1/+28@Dragon76
        Massive ***** you for implying all those who opposed Hillary are sexist. Massive, massive ***** you.

        Also, please, move to Europe and leave us alone. We have enough hyper-sensitive dicks in this country.
      • sysop073, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1@bluezinc I was going for the reply button to write almost exactly those words, I wish I could digg you up more than once
    • jackblack382, on 07/24/2008, -1/+29take action now!! Don't think that "oh the other diggers will take care of it, i won't have to anything"... do something about it!!!
      • mm3guy, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4Unfortunately I'm Canadian, so my opinion is null and void. If I were american, I'd call though.
      • bluezinc, on 07/24/2008, -4/+2@mm3guy

        How convenient for you.
      • allisonaxe, on 07/24/2008, -0/+7mm3guy: call anyway, let them know that the rest of the world is laughing at us!
    • Phylodome, on 07/24/2008, -0/+20I thought tanking the dollar was the whole point. How else are we supposed to convert to the Amero? With a strong currency and vibrant economy? Ha!

      Problem, Reaction, Solution.

      Feel those strings?
      • Sm0k1R, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4Or the Pesollar. I believe this is already the currency in America's heart land... Mexico! where all our cars are made.
    • thelock65, on 07/24/2008, -1/+6hey, ive never voted before so, all i have to do is go, write in ron paul, then leave?
      will they even look at my vote if i write somebody in?
      • TJATL, on 07/24/2008, -4/+2chances are your write in vote will be thrown out.
      • flavioribeiro, on 07/24/2008, -1/+12They won't. Don't bother writing someone in.

        If you like Ron Paul, please consider Chuck Baldwin. Remember to actively support candidates for ALL LEVELS of representation. For instance, check out paulcongress.com.

        The president is not supposed to be a king. Electing representatives for Congress is probably more important in the grand scheme of things.
      • theJeebus, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1Your write-in candidate will get noticed, so please do

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate#Pr ...
    • algaeturd, on 07/24/2008, -6/+14Haven't you guys realized yet that you have absolutely NO control on how your representatives vote on your behalf? What part of the past 8 years did you guys not understand in terms of abuse of powers and unlimited powers and dictatorship.
      In WHAT way can you justify trying to act like you have a voice or that your opinions matter?
      The quicker you people wake up and realize that we have no power, then the faster we can look for a legitimate answer to this debacle.
      • dfeifer, on 07/24/2008, -0/+0Unfortunately who they vote for are corporate interests, not the COMMON people.
        What I don't understand is why people keep voting the same people in to the senate/house. 20+ years as a senator? totally ridiculous. There should be no such thing as a career politician. We should be voting fresh blood in every time there is an election.
    • kelchm, on 07/24/2008, -0/+17I've done my duty and called my Senators. Have you?
    • Loxahatchee, on 07/24/2008, -1/+16http://www.fedupusa.org/

      Either pick up the torches and pitchforks, or the telephone. It is time to choose America. We are just about out of time.

      http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/525-RE ...
    • XanderDee, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4Last chance for Ron Paul...
      http://www.dvds4delegates.com/
    • Hanzzom, on 07/24/2008, -2/+1no u
    • mattyx, on 07/24/2008, -1/+2Um, letting your representatives know how you feel isn't "spam".
    • junyamint, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2Ok so I finally tried to do something and I called the first of my 2 senators (Hillary Clinton in my case). I was surprised at how little wait time there was until someone picked up! In my head I thought it was going to take like 10 times longer...it didn't.

      They just listen to what you have to say...write it down the gist of it (basically oppose a bill or vote for a bill) and then get your address and that is it.

      Hope this helps someone else reading to do the same.
    • toekneebullard, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1I just called. They said it was passed in the senate but up for revisions.

      I must say, it's very disheartening to tell some 16 year old named "Blake" what I think, and he says "OK" and doesn't take my name or number or anything like that.

      Gah...I want to not be apathetic, I want to not be apathetic, I want to not be apathetic, I want to not be apathetic
  • King0007, on 07/24/2008, -14/+538I know many people on Digg don't like Ron Paul, but this goes past any party affiliation. Just take the 8 minutes and watch, listen, & understand what this legislation means to you. It was not just legislation to help the mortgage crisis.....they slipped in several other critical items that the media will never discuss. Also, how can it be possible to pass legislation that uses Taxpayer money to bailout bad business decisions...... I hope you will take the time to spread this far and wide.......Thanks.
    • LongShlong, on 07/24/2008, -6/+85What happened to Paul, seriously?

      I remember Paul riding high, then I went on vacation, and then I come back to this! What the hell?
      I'm not American, but, I still think Paul pwns everyone else.
      • naturalemarket, on 07/24/2008, -12/+3Ron Paul did not have the funding to continue his campagn with the same "vigor" if you will as other candidates, because he did not except any corporate money. I still feel he is the best answer to this idiotic playhouse our government has become and I will write him in on my ballot.

        This credit card thing sucks!!

        www.naturalemarket.com
      • naturalemarket, on 07/24/2008, -0/+6I should add that RP had a great grass roots campaign and I didnt have a lot to give just like many people who love RP.
      • SeasonedBeef, on 07/24/2008, -0/+6It was the media and the GOP that killed the Ron Paul campaign. He was rarely given media coverage and when he was they always put the label "long-shot" or "dark-horse" on him (from day one!).

        The death knell came when Romney dropped out of the race. That was the day most RP supporters in my area knew that a nomination, while technically possible, in reality could not happen (not much chance of a brokered convention after Romney left). Things were actually looking great for RP up until that day.
      • 1elbuggo, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3AIPAC doesn’t like him - he wasn't approved by them, and then he doesn’t get time on TV.
    • GMFlash, on 07/24/2008, -14/+80You would have to be an idiot to NOT like Ron Paul! Oh wait this is Digg... they like it when Obama whispers sweet nothings about "change" in their ears.
      • satanatnmtedu, on 07/24/2008, -29/+8You would have to be an idiot to LIKE Ron Paul. His policies are stupid. They do not take into account basic, selfish human nature. And ALL MONETARY SYSTEMS are fiat systems. Gold is worthless other than it is pretty and conducts electricity nicely. The worth of gold is based ont eh faith that other people want that gold. Hence, it is just as faith based as anything else. But, you guys are too stupid to see this. Hence, this ***** is exactly that, *****.

        You aren't smart. You are just arrogant and dumb.
      • mrfunktastic, on 07/24/2008, -15/+5But just like in 2000, when Nader was the equivalent of Ron Paul today, those wasted votes allowed the far more corrupt of the two parties their entrance. Imagine a world where Al Gore had been president. It would not be as ***** as the Bush/Cheney/Rove nightmare has made it today.

        That's why I'm absolutely voting Obama,so we don't have chikenhawk Bush 2 in office. If McCain wins, America will just keep swirling down into the bowl.

        People older than teenagers should remember this and not throw away a chance to get the corrupt, bloodsucking republicans OUT.
      • Stochio, on 07/24/2008, -4/+12The difference, satan, is that gold is free from easy manipulation.

        You are correct that all money is based on faith.

      • xenuxenuts, on 07/24/2008, -1/+10I don't agree with several things that RP says. However, I do agree with quite a few. I bet the same is true for a lot of people on digg, even other democrats.
      • goodinohio, on 07/24/2008, -4/+7Nothings is right, he hasn't said a damn thing yet.
    • kelt65, on 07/24/2008, -1/+66I'm as leftist as it could be and there are quite a few things about Paul I like. A few I don't. Nevertheless, he was one of the few candidates (inc. Kucinich and Gravel) that did not have his head up his ass
      • quesi, on 07/24/2008, -1/+33That's Ok. Haven't you heard? It's not about left vs right, or libs vs cons, or Dems vs Reps - its U.S. vs THEM > Americans vs Globalists Pick a side and spread the word. Word.
      • HesNikke, on 07/24/2008, -1/+27Dems vs Reps? They're the same coin - the WAR PARTY. I choose Libertarian.

        Sadly, the WAR PARTY has already centrally managed us into another depression, and I'm afraid that the sheeple are too blind to notice. :(
      • GMFlash, on 07/24/2008, -12/+19@kelt65
        You're as leftist as can be? Great! I've been looking for someone like you. I need you to send me at least half of your income because my friends and I are running low on money and need to pay our bills. I apologize for asking you to do this voluntarily but don't worry, if we're ever under the rule of a Socialist or Communist government the money will simply be taken from you as we need it.
      • macweirdo42, on 07/24/2008, -0/+11Makes sense - after all, both liberals (in the traditional sense - going back to the hippies and such), and libertarians have basically the same message, that the government can go ***** itself.
      • birch25, on 07/24/2008, -1/+6"traditional liberals" are hippies? jesus, the ignorance of that statement blows me away. liberals (in the traditional sense) believe in a strong, responsible government.
      • zeromous, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3GMFLash: Why are you speaking in future tense?
      • GMFlash, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2@zeromous
        You're correct that what I said also applies to now. The scary part is how much worse it can get in the future!
    • AdmiralZombie, on 07/24/2008, -4/+17WTF?!

      What do you mean "I know many people on Digg don't like Ron Paul"

      Where were you several months ago? Or have people begun to adopt doublethink...

      • dball48, on 07/24/2008, -1/+21There's a reason it takes a Ron Paul article twice as many diggs as any other article to get to the front page, there's a huge group of diggers who hate him and bury anything with his name on it.
      • King0007, on 07/24/2008, -2/+22I have been here awhile and when I was campaigning for Ron Paul, good stories would always get buried. All of the people "Bitching" about "Oh what is this....the Ron Paul/Digg site?" Almost every story about Ron Paul would get buried.......and now look. This KOOK seems to have been the best choice for president all along. Not so KOOKY when you listen to him.
      • ShogunWarPig, on 07/24/2008, -1/+8Dugg for 1984 reference, nothing else.
      • newbis, on 07/24/2008, -21/+3He means people have been reading about Ron Paul and are beginning to understand that the man is BAT ***** ***** CRAZY. A few months ago he was a revolutionary.

        Oh, and I welcome my burial. You'll get no enjoyment from it and I will feel no sorrow because of it.
      • V3n0M, on 07/24/2008, -0/+5@newbis - wrong again. I did enjoy that.
    • wtfbatman, on 07/24/2008, -7/+37Are you kidding? This is how digg is broken down:

      ***** Scientology, love Apple, love Linux, ***** Microsoft, love Kevin Rose, ***** Bush, ***** Cheney, love Obama, ***** Hillary, and it's a constant love/hate relationship with Ron Paul. If Ron Paul isn't around, no one says ***** about the guy, but as soon as he pops up, it's like white on rice.
      • KMartSheriff, on 07/24/2008, -5/+83 people dugg you down. That's three people that should be banned from Digg for disagreeing with the truth.
      • mcm020, on 07/24/2008, -2/+9Yeah, that's accurate.
    • JKAL, on 07/24/2008, -4/+21I'm not from the USA but it seems like many of you are stuck to backing "your" party not matter what.
      The independents are ridiculed even in tv shows and the mainstream media. That is how the will always control you. by making you think you only have two choices. BTW Both are part of the same group of people making the same type of seemly bad decisions. I was very surprised Obama has family ties with Cheney, even though he is portrayed outside of the US as raised by a poor single mother and he made it.
      • rac1234, on 07/24/2008, -7/+6To find a "family tie" between Obama and Cheney you have to go back eight generations to the 17th century. That's one common ancestor out of 256 each in that generation. I doubt that's having much of an influence on their political activities today.

        Besides, how many people are each of us related to if we trace our ancestry back eight generations? Would you like to have your own credibility judged on the basis of which "family ties" turn up in such a search?
    • mrzeero, on 07/24/2008, -2/+19I can't believe I am saying this, but after see this video I have finally decided that I am voting for Ron Paul. At least I won't be ashamed to tell my daughter how I voted.
      • King0007, on 07/24/2008, -2/+13Hell yeah....Join US here

        http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

        Come to St Paul and meet up with us!! Big Party
      • Gemfinder, on 07/24/2008, -15/+4You would be when she comes up pregnant at 14, the father's nowhere to be seen, and Planned Parenthood closed down for keeps.
        Oh, and her teacher does nothing in class except read from the Bible.
      • Reese268, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2@gemfinder:

        When did Ron Paul say he would close down Planned Parenthood again? In fact, what does Planned Parenthod have to do with anything? And do nothing in class but read the bible? Dude, where the hell are you pulling this ***** from, because Paul would in no way pass legislation that would stop a private organization such as planned parenthood from doing what they do, nor would he have ANY say in what was taught in schools, as he would be getting rid of the department of education, and thereby any federal involvement in the school system. Your ignorance is astounding.
    • atliberty2say, on 07/24/2008, -7/+0'I know many people on Digg don't like Ron Paul' - That's THE single most irrational statement I've ever seen posted on Digg. And dugg up too of course, in perfect monolithic Paulism-ness. Don't get me wrong I like Paul, but his fan boys are irrational mad hatters and do him no favors.
      • Reese268, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3Actually, it's a true statement. There are lots of people on Digg who like him, and there are just as many that don't. If you look at the evidence concerning this, or even just take the time to read through comments, this fact becomes obvious.
    • CMaff24, on 07/24/2008, -3/+3Just so everyone knows, the consequences of allowing Fannie and Freddie to collapse were potentially much more dire than propping them up with government funds. The current state of the subprime credit crisis would be exacerbated to a degree we couldn't even predict, because every loan Fannie and Freddie backed would default and all that money would be *gone*. At least taxpayer money is real, and will continue to recirculate, keeping the economy afloat (barely).

      And stop blaming "rich investors" for this. Instead blame the "sleazy mortgage companies" that rode a massive housing bubble boom, tricking poor middle and lower class families into buying houses with mortgage rates they could barely afford during the peak of national economic and real estate prosperity. Then blame these same mortgage firms that leveraged these loans 10x, resulting in a long term loss of not only the persons housing, but also for the 10 dollars to every one that was used by YOUR bank to keep the ATM machine well fed. Yeah you can say the banks/investment firms never should have accepted the mortgage securities, but they've been doing it for more than a hundred years without such negative consequences. Blame the mortgage companies that are now out of business.
      • Reese268, on 07/24/2008, -0/+5Mortgage companies are absolutely to blame. The people who irresponsibly took loans they could not afford are equally to blame. If they had thought it through, they would have made the same discovery I did... that while I could get a loan to get a house, I would not be able to make the payments on that loan in a few years.

        Yeah, letting them collapse wouldn't be good for the economy, but what is going to happen by bailing them out is to reinforce their bad behavior. The consequence of their backing bad loans is being removed, and so they will have no incentive to not back bad loans in the future, as they can assume they will be bailed out again. This only delays an inevitable day that will ultimately be made far worse by continuing to function the way we are.
    • brainboy77, on 07/24/2008, -6/+2dude, you probably joined digg yesterday. otherwise, you would have seen february and the months before. nowadays, the ronbots are undercover. but back in the day when they were at their most annoyingest, oh boy. and there are no obama-bots. the only real bots are ronbots and that's not a good thing. stupid ass ***** saying that digg hates ron paul. ron paul wouldn't even get the 50 or so delegates he got if it wasn't for digg. every day there would at least 3 to 5 top 10 stories about how ron paul is god. so shut the ***** up and get your facts straight, you idiot.
    • ProjectGSX, on 07/24/2008, -1/+2We also need to realize the two-faced nature of our government.

      Record oil profits = free market economy, enjoy your profits!
      Mortgage company failure = Add 800 billion to national debt for bail out.

      You CAN'T have it both ways!

      And as for Ron Paul - his problem is calling himself a Republican. The Republican ideals he stands for are NOTHING like those of Bush, Cheney and the neo-con movement. Today's Republican is about legislation enforcing religious beliefs, discrimination, war mongering and profit for the rich. Many people write Paul off just for calling himself a Republican.
  • kemp34, on 07/24/2008, -9/+338Pure outrage. The rug is being pulled out from under us and the cage is being built around us. Nice job congressional morons. Disgusting.
    • EntropyFan, on 07/24/2008, -15/+9I gotta ask; what should they have done? Let the US slip into another Great Depression? This death-spiral will take us all down, not just those that 'spent poorly' or bought a house they couldn't afford.
      And for those saying '***** it, they deserve to lose their shirts' the only people losing their shirts are middle Americans, from their 401K's, by losing their jobs, that kind of thing.
      Those responsible left with the cash quite some time ago. Or have parachute packages, so you'll 'punish' them by handing them millions while they leave.

      I gotta ask; what should they have done?
      • xBDVx, on 07/24/2008, -14/+6Finally, someone makes a reasonable comment.
        Ask yourself, what do you think will happen when we don't bail out these two companies? Their role in the market is to absorb other banks' mortgage losses. If they fail, you can goodbye to our economy. Congress just saved out ***** asses and you should be thanking them for it. If anything, you should blame the people that allowed predatory loan practices to go on as long as they did...specifically the last two Congresses. They knew about the problems, but didn't do ***** about it. But since we're already in this mess, we have to save the banks as much as we have to save the people going bankrupt and getting their homes foreclosed.
      • OgonGuitarist, on 07/24/2008, -0/+19"Congress just saved out ***** asses and you should be thanking them for it."

        Correction:

        WE saved their asses. We're paying for the bailout because the Federal Reserve decides to print billions out of thin air to pay for their losses. That devalues the currency, since there's more in circulation. And guess what that means, chump change. Our money's worth less! Our income isn't rising accordingly nor are our taxes decreasing. That means our real purchasing power has been decreased with each and every bailout. It's an inflation tax. Congress needs to grow a pair, stand up the bankers, and tell them to stop the precarious lending. Then we need to haul these banking bigwigs off to federal prison and use THEIR money to pay for THEIR *****.
      • PeppermintPig, on 07/24/2008, -0/+6So we reward failure and tax those who are actually successfully making money? Yeah, that works.

        "Their role in the market is to absorb other banks' mortgage losses."

        Which is absurd. They're taking on mortgages that are too risky for any sane person to accept. They accept them because they're not paying for them, but we all pay for this risky behavior in the form of government waste and inflation.
      • cnot3, on 07/24/2008, -0/+7Congress doesn't know what's best for the economy. As Ron Paul pointed out, most of the economic hardship that we are facing is due to government intervention and the fed setting interest rates far below the market value.

        Ever heard of Milton Freedman and the 'Fool in the Shower' analogy? Basically it states that whenever the government interferes with the economy it just ***** things up even further.
      • algaeturd, on 07/24/2008, -1/+6The stupidity of Americans is why the powers that be can pull this stuff off so easily. Dr. Paul is one of the few who break it down honestly into laymen's terms and spell it out. What should be do? What should we DO?
        It's what we should have DONE. You don't HEAL a recession. You PREVENT it. That was the first problem; entrusting an idiot with the keys to your country and trusting him to keep it safe and secure and thriving financially.
        ALL recessions/depressions take the exact same course. We've been through it before; there are no surprises. It's is a slow, downward spiral and the KEY is to put aspects of economic support in place to prevent slipping to the next level. Some economists say that this whole situation actually looks staged. And who can blame them for thinking that? It was a very systematic decline and fairly quick in terms of economic stretches.
        But yeah, Americans have handed the keys over to someone who couldn't manage the finances of a McDonald's and then they get confused when everything goes to *****?
        And now it's ,'what do we do to solve it?'
        Where have you been for the past 4 years? HELL, past almost EIGHT years.
        Have you SEEN the bill for this war? I'm just wondering.
      • jodes440, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1STOP ***** BAILING OUT BANKS!! Jesus Christ!! How many times do we have to take it in the ass before we say 'No mas'???!!! Continually bailing out the banks will result in a depression, not the other way around. There was ***** of fraud going on here, and Congress looked the other way. So you want these ***** that got us into this situation to concoct a scheme to get us out? ***** me man.... game over.
    • pajeff2, on 07/24/2008, -6/+2OBAMA WILL BE YOUR NEW MOMMA, GET OVER IT
    • fatrandy13, on 07/24/2008, -0/+7Thanks to our democratic congress... thank you pelosi

      @pajeff2 - you're just clearly retarded..
    • thegreenspanput, on 07/24/2008, -7/+0I like Ron Paul, but there is no such thing as fiat money. The $US is valued like all currencies and all financial securities... they are valued by the assets backing them. Read about the real bills doctrine here:

      http://www.csun.edu/~hceco008/realbills.htm

      • cnot3, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2The US dollar is, by definition, fiat money. It is intrinsically worthless. Any economics course will teach you that, its not like they are trying to hide the fact.
  • King0007, on 07/24/2008, -4/+272Youtube Link

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy6SlUpbnIU&eurl=ht ...
  • Kanele, on 07/24/2008, -6/+427fingerprints? wtf!
    credit card transactions reported to IRS? wtf!
    • MizSwann, on 07/24/2008, -6/+44WTF??
      You stole my reply before I ever SAW this link -- WTF?!!
      I'm your fan now -- either befriend me or...WTF??
    • 3amboo, on 07/24/2008, -6/+20are you guys from Australia?
    • HellifIno, on 07/24/2008, -2/+31I just have to laugh at the credit card reporting. The amount of data that will create will be rediculous. Seems a monumental waste of time all around.
      • naturalemarket, on 07/24/2008, -11/+2The GOV waste time!!! Never!! I am shocked and apauled by your comment. LOL

        I love liberals. please may I ahve some money too?.. I dont get welfare so as GM flash has asked so shall I.
      • BitBurner, on 07/24/2008, -0/+16They just want the data im sure it s not just for the IRS. They have software that can mine whatever data they want from huge data stores....don't be fooled
      • atgmac, on 07/24/2008, -0/+6http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/
      • DestroyFascism, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1And one day somewhere an IT gets pissed off and his best friend is Russian.....
      • JohnFive, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1A computer doesn't spend much time going through those records.
      • sirellyn, on 07/24/2008, -2/+2I just have to laugh at this "INTERNET THING". The amount of data that will create will be rediculous. Seems a monumental waste of time all around.

        I mean you'll never be able to find anything, and no one will ever even use it.
      • dillywe, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1don't worry, someone somewhere will find a way to utilize such a gold mine of information. in the information age, there can never be too much information.
    • welestgw, on 07/24/2008, -7/+3WTF FTW
    • anarcurt, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3all businesses overseen by the SEC (brokerages Etc.) have had to get fingerprints for years. Kinda like guilty until proven innocent. The interesting thing is I never heard of a stock fraud case come down to fingerprint evidence.
    • codesuidae, on 07/24/2008, -1/+3Ron Paul says "Everything you buy and sell on your credit card, every transaction will be reported to the IRS" (see about 4:57 in the youtube video, either watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI or watch?v=Wy6SlUpbnIU).

      This is completely incorrect. He didn't take time to understand the bill.

      RTFB. You can easily find it on thomas.loc.gov. Put "H.R.3221" in the search box, select the 'Bill Number' option and submit. Click through to the 7th version of the bill and bring up the pdf:

      http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi ...

      Look on page 620, line 11.

      "Each payment settlement entity
      shall make a return for each calendar year setting forth—
      [...] the gross amount of the reportable transactions with
      respect to each such participating payee."

      A payee is "any person who accepts a payment card as payment"

      The bill says that companies that process the payments have to give the IRS an ANNUAL TOTAL for each company they paid on behalf of their cardholders. So, Bank of America has to tell the IRS the total they paid Wal-Mart for a year when they file their return.

      I'm all for avoiding government snooping, but this ain't what Ron Paul said it is, not even close.
    • Archos, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2Yes, all your private data goes to a bunch of powerful individuals. After the dollar crash you can only pay with a Mastercard (newspeak for slave card) in a state of Martial Law. Government is gone. It's you versus them - so clearly now...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVzkceT521A
  • DuggRonPaul, on 07/24/2008, -32/+194Diggs like this and like the one I posted below go to show you that in most of his positions Ron Paul is right especially on the war and the economy and the Right to life for innocent American babies and innocent Iraqi & Afghani babies.
    http://digg.com/world_news/Cindy_Sheehan_Salutes_R ...

    join Ron Paul's camapign for liberty today and lets see if theres anything we can do to prevent facism, war mongering, saving the devalued dollar, big government, and a possible police State
    http://www.campaignforliberty.com
    • loki49152, on 07/24/2008, -17/+6You're right. A baby does have the right to life.

      A foetus does not. And until it's born, it's a foetus, not a baby.
      • bobcat7407, on 07/24/2008, -3/+10A what? A foetus? I think you mean fetus, and I'm curious how you prove your statement. Why is the line when it is born? Why not when we can detect a heartbeat? Or perform surgery on the baby? Or when we can tell the sex of the baby? Or when it is convenient for you to call it a baby? Oh wait, that last one is probably your reasoning.
      • Lockean, on 07/24/2008, -4/+2How about when it is viable on its own? If it has never drawn its own breath and cannot if it were pulled out right now, how could it be considered alive?
      • Swateke, on 07/24/2008, -2/+2Foetus is correctly spelled, even more accurately than fetus. Fetus is derived from foetus.

        And the line isn't "when it's born". The line is 3 months. He is incorrect, he meant embryonic.
      • Screwy1138, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2"How about when it is viable on its own?"

        A 6 month old baby is not viable on it's own. Take away care, and it will die.
      • bobcat7407, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2@Lockean - But what if it can feel pain? It has a hearbeat? Are people who are on life support not alive?

        @Swateke - I'm not sure where you get that from, but fetus is the modern spelling in English. Why 3 months?

        @Screwy1138 - 6 months is actually the point a baby can survive outside the womb. It still needs care, but so does a baby born after a normal term. Here's a link that says it: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8645639/
    • satanatnmtedu, on 07/24/2008, -22/+2You guys are stupid and do the same damn theing you accuse others of. You accept that Paul is for liberty even though he claims the US is a Christian Nation, he is against abortion (the freedom of a woman to choose), he is for the pledge of allegiance, an there are many more examples of how he is against freedoms that make the US great.

      Paul is all about states' rights. The idea that brought us slavery and the civil war. Paul isn NOT for the Constitution. He is for his interpretaiton of the constitution, just like every other politician. But, Paul has a bunch of mindless douchebags that are too selfish to see that they are being used and manipulated.
    • Reasonableguy, on 07/24/2008, -6/+6Actually, I'm a big fan of baby murder. Where oh where shall I find a candidate willing to run on a platform of tazering and pepper-spraying toddlers?
    • Jugador12, on 07/24/2008, -0/+9I voted Ron Paul in California which is kind of like building a sky scraper with one bucket of cement
    • StopThePresses, on 07/24/2008, -9/+2Wow, I wasn't aware that digg was so anti-abortion.
      I thought you people were all about civil liberties and personal rights? In thinking about this fetus that couldn't live on it's own, that is by definition a parasite, are you forgetting about the woman and what her rights are?
      • silentboom, on 07/24/2008, -0/+8Ron Paul said he would leave it up to the states. Even though he doesn't like it he STILL respects your opinion.
      • InfiniteNothing, on 07/24/2008, -3/+1So he's going to take a right and make it a maybe.
    • Swateke, on 07/24/2008, -5/+4Babies, what babies? Killing babies is wrong indeed. But i don't think thats unique to Ron Paul.

      Killing embryo's? Well, then thats just as bad as throwing away your sperm.

      Killing fetusses? Well, thats the debate. But I say, eat some lambchops and stfu, you antropocentristic *****. I hate hypocrits that would slice open the neck of a lamb, let it bleed out, strip its skin and eat the insides, but removing a fetus that can't even feel or realise, well...

      If you're against all killing.... Well, don't do it then... Damn hippies.
    • JonGalt, on 07/24/2008, -3/+1I just "unfriended" you for saying "American babies and innocent Iraqi & Afghani babies.". My god your a ***** retard and you make me look SO bad.

      Not to mention Cindi Sheehan is a unprincipled scumbag...no self respecting piece of ***** would spit on her if she were dying of thirst in the desert.

      You sir. Are a ***** jerk off, and I wont stand by listening to your emotionalist BS, as you try to sway people with emotional speech instead of reason.
    • thesupergeek, on 07/24/2008, -1/+1If i have to read another comment regarding Ron Paul, I'm holding you responsible.
    • kingofpap, on 07/24/2008, -1/+0how many dead babies does it take to paint a house?
  • Spentlife, on 07/24/2008, -10/+80I don't doubt the march to facism will continue, but I hope the ground under the feet will disapear and it will fall

    contemplate the aweakening, but will the nightmare end with a whole in the pockets?
    • spreadfred, on 07/24/2008, -27/+5we are NOWHERE NEAR a march to fascism. you ppl tend to oversensationalize and exaggerate.
      • jodes440, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1Are you joking? Have you been paying attention? I swear to God, I really think most people have no clue what freedom actually means. "Well I'm free to do anything that isn't against the law! The law may be wrong, but it's the law - so I must obey it."

    • freqk, on 07/24/2008, -2/+2Just saying hi from up here from Canada.
      Things are peaceful here. No sign of-
      Hey, what's this? C-61?
      OH GO-...
    • Spentlife, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1hi there...

      damn I wrote whole in the pockets .. meant hole .. ;)

      security laws will just give our corporate leaders all the tools to box us.
  • koicho, on 07/24/2008, -18/+80Aaand after speech like that we get... a crash landing?!

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/pl ...
    • cr250guy, on 07/24/2008, -11/+17Something is trying really hard to silence the truth ehh?
      • koicho, on 07/24/2008, -8/+1Or it could be that all of our aircraft maintenance has gone to SH%T...
    • JMScheib, on 07/24/2008, -28/+4http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5540/paulxb3.jp ...
      • StormyAaron, on 07/24/2008, -2/+12Yet I don't beleive in any of those conspiracies yet support Ron Paul...
      • JMScheib, on 07/24/2008, -6/+1I know, I screwed up the graph. =(
        I tried.
      • lordzelo, on 07/24/2008, -1/+7Moron.
      • Tommyhawk, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3Reptilians? oh ***** I've been a conspiracy theorist all my life and didn't even know it.
      • TJATL, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3dude...have you never watched V the series? ^^^^ Classic Sci-Fi....Classic as in 80's
    • justjoehere, on 07/24/2008, -2/+21That happened the day before the speech.
      • Agres, on 07/24/2008, -1/+4Even worse :|
      • PokerGigolo, on 07/24/2008, -1/+1Woah there, joe, this is digg for christ's sake, don't go trying to have facts interfere with the outrage.
    • ironhide, on 07/24/2008, -12/+5Paranoid, dim-witted fools.
      • FeargusMcDuff, on 07/24/2008, -2/+2I can't believe you got buried, anyone who thinks this wasn't just an accident is insane.
    • jts10, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3there was no "crash"

      According to spokesman Jesse Benton, Paul is fine and "it was more of an inconvenience than anything else."
  • diggingaround, on 07/24/2008, -25/+39I think this may bring some good stuff.. for example, people will stop buying ***** they don't need with their credit cards... this will instantly put stop to personal borrowing and debt.. every one will use cash to buy stuff .. and after we run out of cash, good old gold will be king again.
    • zephc, on 07/24/2008, -1/+31No, for a lot of people, it doesn't even occur to them to save money for their utilities and rent, instead of blowing it on a new TV or other frivolous things. I'm convinced most people aren't even aware of many of their own actions - are not fully self-aware creatures. A lot of them seem to service in public office.
    • Journeywithinn, on 07/24/2008, -0/+32Well, it will be pretty hard to buy things on the internet without a credit card..and I also remember that when I was young and very poor, I could never have had clothes to wear to work if I did not have a credit card, buy some, and then put $5.00/week aside to pay for them. The IRS has NO business looking at any of our financial records AT all without a warrant!!
    • tomz17, on 07/24/2008, -0/+12How exactly will reporting to the IRS stop people from making bad financial decision with their credit cards!?!??
    • Hangly, on 07/24/2008, -2/+2Good, good. Look for the positive. Every mushroom cloud has a silver lining.
    • kbking34, on 07/24/2008, -0/+6People have to know about it to protect themselves from it, and unless they spend 14 hours a day on Digg like we do, they won't know about it.
      • PabloMac, on 07/26/2008, -0/+114 hours a day? I haven't quite built up my tolerance to that level yet.
    • Sm0k1R, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4Truthfully, even if everyone was aware of this, most American's wouldn't see the harm in their credit card transactions being sent to the IRS. Most would probably support the idea if it was somehow linked to stopping terrorists.
    • sk11, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4We would mostly agree that a father who gives his young daughter an unlimited credit card should have his head examined, yet the government does this very thing. Perhaps Dr. Paul needs to diagnose some of his fellow senators.
    • JonGalt, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1And what happens afterward? Its all still there and we are worse off.
    • Reese268, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2Most people don't even pay attention... so... I wouldn't hold my breath.
  • SoyJames, on 07/24/2008, -10/+332Disgusting. This is YOUR tax money being used to bail out rich investors who were so greedy that they just couldn't settle for usury of homeowners who could afford it, they had to try and fleece the poor too. They then sold off the lousy loans to poor countries and to our school systems as bonds. These ***** should be put in jail, not bailed out.
    • Journeywithinn, on 07/24/2008, -1/+37Really! This is our money. I would rather use it to help local businessmen from going under--and again--the IRS is no WAY allowed access to our personal records without a warrant. We need to get rid of every congressman who voted for this!!!
      • MyExSucks, on 07/24/2008, -10/+5soooo, every ***** democrat in congress?

        thanks, america, for being so desperate for change that you filled the house and senate with democrats, who, with god knows what power they think they have, are slowly destroying our country
      • MyExSucks, on 07/24/2008, -11/+5soooo, every ***** democrat in congress?

        thanks, america, for being so desperate for change that you filled the house and senate with democrats, who, with god knows what power they think they have, are slowly destroying our country. pelosi is making this place hell until the election is over so that a dem will get elected president for more "change." this is complete *****. holding public office is about making the country you were elected by a better place, not about seeing to your own political needs. ***** that bitch. and ***** democrats.
      • MyExSucks, on 07/24/2008, -11/+4soooo, every ***** democrat in congress?

        thanks, america, for being so desperate for change that you filled the house and senate with democrats, who, with god knows what power they think they have, are slowly destroying our country. pelosi is making this place hell until the election is over so that a dem will get elected president for more "change." this is complete *****. holding public office is about making the country you were elected by a better place, not about seeing to your own political needs. ***** that bitch. and ***** democrats.
      • BobMysterioso, on 07/24/2008, -6/+1warning.. warning.. over-reacting drama queen parent alarm is at critical levels..

      • PokerGigolo, on 07/24/2008, -0/+0I'm just curious, MyExSucks, when did you run for congress, and from what district? I mean, you're obviously very passionate about this and you must have put your money where your mouth is, right?

        Oh, wait, I guess you just sit on digg and bitch about it like every other useless whiner. Go suck a hat.
      • MyExSucks, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1I got my own ***** to do. Public office is for people who have a lot of connections and aren't getting much else done with their life. I have things I want to accomplish before I resort to running for office and being "told" what to do on a daily basis. Maybe after I retire. But seriously, how can nobody else see that Pelosi and other influential dems are not trying to help our country at this point in time? She completely banned any talk of drilling for oil in alaska or anywhere in the arctic on the house floor until after the next recess, which was shown in the wall street journal today would have a huge effect on oil prices. why? to make people suffer and want "change" that they think they can only get by electing a democrat into office come november
    • MarkEarhart, on 07/24/2008, -2/+24Putting them in jail seems far too lenient. Why not just put them all before firing squads?
      • DrDreyfus, on 07/24/2008, -2/+1Because this isn't the Middle East you fascist bastard.
    • brad3378, on 07/24/2008, -0/+13.....and our Grandchildren's tax money.
    • xBDVx, on 07/24/2008, -11/+10I agree with the IRS thing, but do you guys even know what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac do?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_mae
      http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gse.asp
      They help make our economy *go*. If they went under we'd be MUCH more *****. You think the economy is hurting now, just wait for these guys to go bust. Anyway, they're also pseudo-government entities, formed and *regulated* by Congress. They could have done something a few years ago to regulate mortgages and loans, but they DID NOT...so now we have to bail them out.
      • brad3378, on 07/24/2008, -3/+14General Motors and Ford motor company make my local economy "go".
        Should we bail them out too?

        Why should a bank in New York get my Michigan Tax Dollars?
        Why should the bankers get to keep their private jets while the taxpayers suffer?
        Let them fail!
      • ka9dgx, on 07/24/2008, -4/+17No... we'd just go back to the old fashioned way of doing things.... you'd present your case to the loan officer of a local bank who would have strong incentives to make sure you could actually pay back the loan. The housing bubble would complete it's pop, and life would go on.

        There's nothing wrong with letting Fannie Mae go bankrupt and have its assets sold off. It's called Capitalism, and it's supposed to be how we do things in this country. You either try hard and succeed, or you go bankrupt, and other people get a chance.

        Attaching a vacuum hose from my wallet to the giant hole that is the housing market isn't going to work.

      • xBDVx, on 07/24/2008, -7/+6@brad: You don't like to click links do you? It's not a New York bank. It was created by the government to provide liquidity to real banks so that normal people could even afford loans to buy houses. Most people wouldn't be living in houses right now if it wasn't for those two "companies." Now whether or not you agree with people living in houses...it's happened already. If these two companies go down, the rest of wall street will go with it. People won't be talking about recessions anymore, because it'll be a depression.
        @ka9dgx: who's gonna buy $12trillion worth of securities right now? That's right, only the government CAN do it. Otherwise you'll really screw over those people that were tricked into getting loans they couldn't afford do to the predatory lending that was going on.
      • MuskokasFinest, on 07/24/2008, -5/+5Thank you xBDVx for bringing some rationality to this conversation.
        I don't think people realize that if these companies fail then the entire economy will collapse with it. This is not a Ford Motor company, or some company that owns some properties that other companies will "snatch up". These companies are responsible for 12 trillion dollars of US money.
      • Lockean, on 07/24/2008, -1/+5@xBDVx: giving to idiots who over-bought rather than buying houses they could afford a pass is not doing the situation justice. Agreed, Fannie and Freddie collapsing would be catastrophic but denying personal responsibility on the part of the people who chose these loans will just put us right back here in the future.
        @brad: if the govt were to bail out the auto industry, you bet your ass you'd be hoping that the federal govt would be putting up the money. Michigan couldn't bail out a Best Buy store with its current income or GDP. The people of Michigan would be just as screwed as everyone else were this system to fail.
      • Y0tsuya, on 07/24/2008, -2/+5xBDVx,

        Hint: Most people knew exact what they were doing, but were counting on never-ending price appreciation to bail them out if something goes wrong. Why should we sink the dollar to help them out?
      • Friern, on 07/24/2008, -3/+3I'm not in favor of bailouts, but this is going to cost the government much less now with a bailout than in potential future costs - it's unfortunate, but that's the reality.

        If Fannie/Freddie go under, it's not just the people that are "denying personal responsibility" or "knew what they were doing" that will be screwed. Half of the mortgages in America are guaranteed by Fannie/Freddie and some include responsible borrowers.

        To explain it in Digg-terms: Bush is against this bill (even if he won't veto). What does that say?
      • Mavital, on 07/24/2008, -1/+1The previous comments are correct. The free market cannot bail Fannie or Freddie out of this. Do you people seriously want to send that big of a shock through the market place? I am by NO means a socialist, but certain measures have to be taken to ensure the health and welfare of the economy as a whole.
    • Hangly, on 07/24/2008, -0/+17Let me correct this misconception immediately. This is NOT coming out of your tax dollars. This money was not borrowed. Even if there was someone out there with a trillion dollars to lend, they certainly wouldn't be insane enough to lend it to our government.

      No, this money will be PRINTED. This effectively DOUBLES the amount of dollars in circulation nationally, which means your own money's value is reduced by HALF.
      • Sm0k1R, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3Yes, thankfully I invested in a bunch of Canadian money recently.
    • kronzdigg, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4There is no tax money left. This is printing money!!!!!!!!! This is the devaluation of your fiat currency!!!! It will fail and the U.S. will begin a long difficult recession.
      • Hangly, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1I don't know why I feel like I have to post. Must be my aspergers or something.

        Technically what we are facing is not a recession. Recessions happen when the money supply is insufficient to cover production. What we are facing is hyperinflation, which is a good deal worse.

        Throughout this crisis the value of the stock market (priced in dollars) will INCREASE, not decrease.
      • kronzdigg, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2Thank you.
    • bobthegreat1224, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2It's important to remember that homeowners bought houses they couldn't afford. There are two guilty parties here. The guilty homeowners aren't just a few deceived innocent sheep, they're a massive body of individuals whose habits are the direct result of our cultural views on debt. That's a problem the government can't fix, only cold, hard, painful, flat-on-your-butt-in-the-streets reality, and the lesson will have to be repeated many times before it clicks on a wide enough scale.

      The government's actions are also the result of cultural changes, for which we're partly responsible. We're shifting slowly from capitalism to socialism as our sense of compassion and feelings of entitlement grow ever larger. Whether this is a mistake cannot be stated exclusively as a matter of fact, but it is almost certain that this trend will continue until the inevitable end of our nation. Ball-bustingly strict capitalism and democracy are out the door in the current world climate, and we're following suit. That is also a simple matter of cold, hard reality.
    • le0pardess, on 08/11/2008, -0/+1Well said SoyJames!

      Even better? Re institute the gallows. A public hanging for all of them!
  • theNazz, on 07/24/2008, -18/+249Really makes me glad the wife and I skipped kids. Kids are for people with hope for the future. I don't have any.
    • btschul, on 07/24/2008, -3/+43Depressing but true.
    • Dohko_Xar, on 07/24/2008, -6/+33This is so sad but true, why bring children into this world if they will live in such a horrible country?
      • DeFex, on 07/24/2008, -2/+25horrible world, actually.
      • cowsgonemadd3, on 07/24/2008, -16/+8Go live in a 3rd world country and then come back and here and compare. Kids over there have no food.
      • h3lx, on 07/24/2008, -11/+6Until you see your neighbor ***** in the ditch you're in the "First World"... we have light and running water and food. When any two of them collapse the shooting will start. Cheers to hoping you've done a little more to prepare than prayer.
      • mahoneyxp, on 07/24/2008, -3/+2To counter all the rednecks who are having kids.
    • Trav3133, on 07/24/2008, -22/+20A point of view like this is far more destructive than any legislation.
      • JimW311, on 07/24/2008, -2/+14Point of view is subjective. This is not subjective, this is the facts. This would be called reality. We are going down the wrong path, and unless it's changed. Then yes, there isn't much hope.
      • zer0nix, on 07/24/2008, -1/+5hey, ***** HOPE. you don't like the situation? do something to change it. hope is for pansies.
    • DirtPile, on 07/24/2008, -18/+3Not having kids implies no hope because you can't provide. *****.
    • DeFex, on 07/24/2008, -1/+20not having kids migh have nothing to do with being able to provide, there are enough already, its selfish. and mean making them grow up in this *****.
    • jerrycurley, on 07/24/2008, -19/+5You have no hope for hte future becuase of YOUR life.

      And you have no kids because no one would ever have sex with you.
      • xShifty, on 07/25/2008, -0/+0He doesn't have kids because he's not a stupid redneck like you.
    • DrPaul2008, on 07/24/2008, -1/+11Completely agree. I have hope for the distant future, but not for any my hypothetical kid could have. Hence, no kids for me. Which reminds me.. I just made this comment a bit ago; http://digg.com/health/The_Birth_Control_Extremist ...

      I know the Free State Project is a long shot, but I think it's the best shot we've got. If you're of like mind, you may want to check it out. http://www.freestateproject.org
    • vincebodie, on 07/24/2008, -1/+23Have kids, homeschool them, teach them about honest money, honest relationships, healthy living, the Founding Fathers, Nikola Tesla, Lysander Spooner, and Ron Paul. It's our best hope.
      • btschul, on 07/24/2008, -5/+2Not to detract from your excellent comment, but if I was going to have a kid, I would consider naming him Lysander Spooner because that is a ***** kick ass name.
      • michaelmit, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2Dugg for Nikola Tesla!
      • Neodarwin, on 07/24/2008, -2/+1Wrong! If you do have kids and raise them the way to said, thell get chewed up as as soon as they leave the nest. I myself have two young kids and let me say its damn near impossible to raise them to be honest without being naive and to be tough without being cold.

        Parenting in this day and age is not quite what it used to be.
    • kds405, on 07/24/2008, -9/+9This country is still not horrible. Life is not yet so hopeless that being alive isn't worth it. If you are that hopeless, I pity you. If a bank bail out is going to shatter your life, perhaps you should scale back a bit and try to worry about things you can control. Your not fit to handle these things that in reality won't affect you.
      • normalkid0615, on 07/24/2008, -3/+1your 14?
      • Gonthim, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2How do you avoid the affects of inflation and the devaluation of the dollar? That's a nice trick I'd like to learn.

        Assuming of course you live in the US.
      • Matt2k, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1> How do you avoid the affects of inflation and the devaluation of the dollar?

        Well, you can't avoid it entirely, but they key is living within your means, working in a relatively insulated sector, being self-sufficient and conservative, and being at the top of your game.

        For example, I'm not rich by any standards, but I have absolutely zero debt, I grow a garden, rarely drive (or when I do, consolidate trips) or waste money, and while I might have to adjust my rates as time goes on, my clients aren't with me because of my price anyway. They're with me because I make them money by being good at what I do. And this year has been my busiest yet. Will it continue? Dunno, depends how bad it gets, I suppose. And maybe I'm just being young and naive, but I'm not really that worried.
    • thexder, on 07/24/2008, -1/+11Who is going to change the world if you don't have kids?
      • emilychap, on 07/24/2008, -1/+1Couldn't agree with you more!
      • orlyfactor, on 07/24/2008, -1/+2Perhaps the other 5.9999 billion people can do it. But nooo, they're all evildoers, right?
      • Clearfire18, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4Hopefully us, or some of the people viewing this digg page.

        Why just dump all of today's problems on to the next generation?
    • mwag, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2You can't always expect the next generation to make the change. Why do you think it's gotten this bad? Because WE are supposed to be the ones to change the world. We should probably get on that.
    • Screwy1138, on 07/24/2008, -1/+10If you have a solid head on your shoulders, an education, can provide an education to your children, and teach them the right ideals, then you are screwing the world by not having children. Thanks.

      Our problem is the wrong people are having kids.
      • emilychap, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2Idiocracy styles.
      • cmackattack, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1One person's thought of screwing the world, is another person's thought of screwing their child...well that didn't sound right, but...you understand the point.

        Or maybe it's that one person's thought of saving the world is by screwing your kid. Hummm...that still sounds bad.

        < -- DINK (Dual Income, No Kids)
    • Sharky35, on 07/24/2008, -7/+2What country do you ppl live in? I live in America, the greatest country on Earth and we have 2 kids so far.
      Maybe you can move here and then have some kids.
    • malibusurf, on 07/24/2008, -0/+5This is the real tragedy, people being priced out of starting a family in a first world economy.
    • flyturbo, on 07/24/2008, -1/+1you can always move to Canada and have kids!
    • erhanaltay, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1You made a good choice, now your moron gene won't be passed to the next generation.
    • purepremiumpulp, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1"Kids are for people with hope for the future. I don't have any."
      - So are wives... :-/
  • BeaReady, on 07/24/2008, -6/+77This is so outrageous it's near unbelievable! Where are the credit card lobiests? Oh...silly me, I forgot, they're the BANKS who benefit from this robbery of the tax payers!
    • Hangly, on 07/24/2008, -0/+5Yep. This just went from 'nervously fingering your gun' scary to 'running naked into the woods screaming' scary.
    • Sharky35, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1The banks are screwing us sooooo hard that they are going out of business.... how does that work again?
  • Lawofnations, on 07/24/2008, -5/+57If the public had any idea just how large a sum one billion is then I think they would be able to put this 800 billion credit scheme in the proper context. By design all Ponzi schemes collapse so my suggestion is to use gold and silver coin for all purchases of products or services. If the merchant refuses then go to his competitor next door. Guess which one will survive this coming depression relatively unscathed?
    • DrPaul2008, on 07/24/2008, -1/+12Unfortunately, our government isn't even pretending to be righteous anymore, and their own laws don't apply to them. They've gone after services like eGold, and Liberty Dollar, criminally. Plus, anyone who saves gold or silver becomes a "hoarder", and can have it all stolen from them.

      I think it's a very good idea to exchange for things as much as possible. I think that silver & gold is a very good medium of exchange. Just be careful of who you let know you have it.
      • Lawofnations, on 07/24/2008, -0/+9Use post 1984 "walking Liberty" silver dollars and "double eagle" gold dollars. They are the only money defined as such and are both legal and lawful tender (see: Title 31 U.S.C. section 5112). You can get them at any coin dealer. I wouldn't give any other type of coin a second glance as they are not defined in law as dollars of the "United States of America" (money).

        Plus, when spending the coins, you don't want to muddy the waters by using a variety of coin, ie: Krugerrands, Mapleleafs, commemerative, antiques, etc.. It will con