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Strange Days: MIKE HUCKABEE Defends Obama, & Rev. Wright!
blogs.abcnews.com — "he made the point, and I think it's a valid one, that you can't hold the candidate responsible for everything that people around him may say or do. You just can't -- whether it's me, whether it's Obama, anybody else."
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- boobyman, on 03/20/2008, -96/+150He has a valid point. That doesn't change the fact of Huckabee being a complete retard.
- motivatedmama, on 03/20/2008, -9/+62Not sure whether to digg this down or up.
- neckfire, on 03/20/2008, -20/+18Both valid observations. Kudos good sir. Kudos.
- NyteStarNyne, on 03/20/2008, -8/+109I hated Huckabee during the early parts of his campaign, but as he started becoming the joke of the Republican party, he showed some character that changed my views on him. I still don't agree with his political views, but he's a good person in my book.
- Y2JCrisis, on 03/20/2008, -5/+71He actually seemed pretty intelligent to me, and the more I saw him speak, the more I liked him. I absolutely disagree with many of his ideas, but I do think he's genuinely a good person.
@Booby just because you don't agree with someone's ideas doesn't make them a "retard". Grow up.- stretch611, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5He was willing to let Steven Colbert be his VP :)
As for Boobyman, with a nickname like that you it is hard to guess if he is a teen or a pre-teen. You do not see many adults associated with that nick.... - PullingTeeth, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1Did you just tell someone with a profile name as 'boobyman' to grow up? Strange days, indeed.
- stretch611, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5He was willing to let Steven Colbert be his VP :)
- FoghornLeghorn, on 03/20/2008, -1/+24The more I hear from him outside of his politics the more I come to respect him. I disagree with a lot of his politics, and certainly his religious beliefs, but he does seem to have some common sense, a solid sense of humour and he doesn't buy into a lot of the sensationalism that plagues presidential politics.
- stockjones, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4Most people just focused on the fact that he was a Baptist minister. Like most voters they dont really vote for a candidate based on what they know about them. They just vote based on their perception or the popular media interpretation. Huckabee was a great speaker and actually has quite a good sense of humour. Plus I was for his fair tax act. You want to stimulate spending? Give people more of their real income. Taxing (Obama) will not solve long term problems.
- caferrell, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1Huckabee is intelligent and the genuine article. He would not have made a good President, but he is certainly an honest, compassionate commentator
- Y2JCrisis, on 03/20/2008, -5/+71He actually seemed pretty intelligent to me, and the more I saw him speak, the more I liked him. I absolutely disagree with many of his ideas, but I do think he's genuinely a good person.
- berfmurret, on 03/20/2008, -3/+32whatever. agree with his politics or not he is a funny sob. he was good here and great on SNL.
- StepCousin, on 03/20/2008, -12/+1Well, now he is.
- Xios117, on 03/20/2008, -7/+55Huckabee is a good Christian and a good man, just not a leader who can represent the views of the whole of this country.
- notanidiot, on 03/20/2008, -16/+6Amazing how one changes when they don't have the presidency at stake. He did seem like a bigoted redneck dick, and I would still never want the "Chubby Bubba Family" in the White House, but I could definitely go have a beer with him.
- StepCousin, on 03/21/2008, -4/+1There's no proof of Huckabee being a bigot, but we sure as hell have the goods on Obama.
- chrisc3, on 03/21/2008, -11/+17Oh, i've finally figured it out. Christianity = retardism
Its amazing how egotistical atheists are.- Monkeywithacold, on 03/21/2008, -2/+6they are the only ones that think about things, of course.
- makeitloud, on 03/21/2008, -1/+2Retardism isn't really a word
- buhbyebot, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1That-made-me-laugh.
- jabberwolf, on 03/21/2008, -8/+1BULL !
Huckabee is simply pissed off with MCCAIN for winning. While Obama compares family (which you cannot choose) to his bigot preacher and church which he CHOSE to attend for 20 years!
THAT is why Huckabee is siding with Obama. Hate is a mighty powerful thing, and when you side with it, you gain strange bedfellows! - FutureGuy, on 03/21/2008, -1/+8My respect for Huckabee just went through the roof. He said the right thing, not too many politicians do that.
- stockjones, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4Huckabee was probably the most underrated candidate on the Republican side and the most invisible to the liberal side. A great speaker himself and a lot smarter than most realize.
- matt70, on 03/20/2008, -18/+385Look, most of Mike's positions are pretty....strange...to most of us. That said, I think he really is a genuine person who most of us would be glad to know. I have friends like Mike. Great family people, good friends. I just try to avoid discussions on evolution, the age of the earth, etc.
- wendelgee2, on 03/20/2008, -6/+144Which was Obama's entire point. You can't go around repudiating everyone you disagree with. Some of the people you disagree with might be like family to you...or actual family.
- LeeSoong, on 03/21/2008, -12/+3Mike is right,
if Obama was of a different genetic background, and a member of a 'White Power!' group,
should they hold that against him? If he attended a Skin-Head church, does that disqualify him for running for president?
Just because someone associates with radicals, does not mean they share all the views of every person the meet.
George Bush and his pals are members of the Skull & Bones group, should you hold that against them?
Obama's pastor and friend has the 1st Amendment right to shout hate at America as much as he wants.
The Constitution and Bill of Rights protect the Liberty of all Americans, even those who hate America.
But honestly, if his pastor is so angry and unhappy with the USA -
the rest of the Planet Earth is wide open for his journey -
American isn't a walled prison-state, he can get a passport and go anywhere he
thinks will treat him better than the USA.
- notanidiot, on 03/21/2008, -1/+3The decades most often used stupid ass comment: "If you don't like it here, just get out." Thaaats right, thats a real American concept, never mind how the Declaration of Independence starts out by saying that when people of a nation can't accept their government, they have the right and responsibility to change it.
- LeeSoong, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1What I am saying is this:
Obama can not be held responsible for what some other guy says,
and no matter what Mr. Obama's personal views, beliefs, or religion is,
none of that is a legal impediment against his running for President of the USA.
And yes - believe it or not - the USA is not the only real estate on Earth.
Canada, Australia, South Korea, Japan, European countries, etc. are all nice places too.
Just because you start off somewhere doesn't mean you have to stay there - Earth really is a big wonderful planet.
Given the choice, many people move to sunnier, warmer, happier climates and leave the USA behind for good.
It's not too difficult to switch citizenship and discard your American citizenship.
First work in a new location and live there as a guest worker, after the new countries residency requirements are met, apply for full citizenship in that country.
Once you have been granted full citizenship, and obtain your new country's passport - you can go through the process of returning your passport, social security card, and American citizenship :
http://www.taxmeless.com/USCitizenRenounce.htm
http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/90/art_citizenshi ...
So for a short time, you have dual citizenship - making sure your new country citizenship is 100% complete and up to date.
Switching citizenship has the potential of huge savings for very wealthy people.
Changing citizenship is a serious matter requiring expert advice on legal and financial matters, and should not be taken lightly.
Consult trained professionals familiar with the process of transferring your assets , capital, possessions, citizenship, and your family to another country.
- LeeSoong, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1What I am saying is this:
- notanidiot, on 03/21/2008, -1/+3The decades most often used stupid ass comment: "If you don't like it here, just get out." Thaaats right, thats a real American concept, never mind how the Declaration of Independence starts out by saying that when people of a nation can't accept their government, they have the right and responsibility to change it.
- mal1964, on 03/21/2008, -8/+1I don't ***** where I eat!
- LeeSoong, on 03/21/2008, -12/+3Mike is right,
- hittnrun, on 03/20/2008, -59/+3Why? Is it because you are always right and they are always wrong? Why even waste their time if you are a phony friend? Go be with your other plastic pals, drink a starbucks, steal a song, smoke it up. Yeah, you're real kewl.
- Tiphys, on 03/20/2008, -1/+41wtf?
- bjs3171, on 03/20/2008, -1/+24He's a phony friend because he likes to spend time with people even if he doesn't agree with them all the time? wouldn't he be more of a phony if he spent time with them, AND pretended to agree with them on everything, just to make them feel better and want to be friends with him? yes. yes, he would.
- notanidiot, on 03/20/2008, -1/+13I think what he SHOULD do is make all prospective friends take a test, to make sure that they agree upon key debatable topics, to avoid any possible arguments. lol
- glxyjones, on 03/20/2008, -0/+8seriously....wtf?
- pintomp3, on 03/21/2008, -0/+7you only make friends with people who see everything your way? i don't agree with myself sometimes.
- matt70, on 03/21/2008, -0/+7Okay. I learned my lesson now. I'll only befriend those with whom I agree one hundred percent and who are exactly like me.
I didn't say they were wrong and I was right. We disagree...is that also a sin?
BTW, I don't drink Starbucks, I don't smoke out (but have friends that do...guess I'll have to disown them too), and I've never used the word "kewl."
- glxyjones, on 03/20/2008, -0/+54I couldn't agree more. I think Huckabee is quite a genuine guy who isn't like some ***** far right wingers out there. Just because he has a completely different view on religion and science than I do, doesn't make him a bad person.
- defska42, on 03/20/2008, -3/+29Totally agree. I would never vote for the guy, I would consider moving to Canada if he was ever President; but I respect him a little bit more today for speaking the truth and not partisan *****.
- mal1964, on 03/20/2008, -12/+5The GOP wants BO!
- Nth3nSum, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4Not likely, but everyone is sick of the media focus on blowing things out of proportion. You know they'd loop that Rev. Wright video like the Dean scream, and Hillary's "tears" and many others.
Anyone he's ever been to a church like that knows that things get said wrongly. Are all Catholics pedophiles because the priests molest the choir boys? No they are not. Why, because people are not the sum of their exposure to others.
The only thing that BO did to anyone is sound more reasonable and willing to cross the aisle to get things done. So a little reason came back around to Obama.- mal1964, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1"but everyone is sick of the media focus on blowing things out of proportion"
Have you seen any Negative stories about Obama on diggs front page? How about Hillary? - stretch611, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1mal1964 -- as a registered digg user you have your vote and can help decide which stories hit the front page. Don't complain when the majority disagree with you.
- mal1964, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1I agree and I'm not complaining, Just asking a question.
- mal1964, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1"but everyone is sick of the media focus on blowing things out of proportion"
- Nth3nSum, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4Not likely, but everyone is sick of the media focus on blowing things out of proportion. You know they'd loop that Rev. Wright video like the Dean scream, and Hillary's "tears" and many others.
- fluxion, on 03/20/2008, -0/+6i think his position here predictable given the types of constituents he has. but i must say he's grown on me a bit, and i appreciate his honesty here.
- jabberwolf, on 03/21/2008, -12/+1BULL !
Huckabee is simply pissed off with MCCAIN for MCCAIN having the guts to reject racism. While Obama compares family (which you cannot choose) to his bigot preacher and church which he CHOSE to attend for 20 years!
THAT is why Huckabee is siding with Obama. Hate is a mighty powerful thing, and when you side with it, you gain strange bedfellows!- MixMastaKooz, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5Jabber...you don't have many friends do you? Do you have any friends who are like family to you? I'm basically my best friend's kid's uncle. Although he has said somethings I don't agree with, I would NEVER throw him under the bus for a fast buck or short term/long term gain based on what others thought. If someone is like family to me, I will never abandon them. If you feel differently, you live a sad, pathetic life.
- jch0075, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2you are an idiot
- MaximusD, on 03/21/2008, -1/+26For the record, I saw Huckabee explain his view on evolution, and he doesn't think the world is 6000 years old. He simply believes that God had an active hand in the creation of this world and man, and that it wasn't random mutation and natural selection but the work of God. That really isn't such a crazy view, considering most people in the United States hold it. Huckabee is not a "retard" or an "idiot." He has different views from me, but he seems to be a honest, compassionate person and I refuse to put him down or define his positions in unfair and biased ways. And honestly, I'd prefer him to McCain, even with his awful tax policy and backwards views about Islam. That said, GObama!
- dexter411, on 03/21/2008, -1/+6I dugg up your comment... except that the FairTax is fantastic and honestly something that no one who understands disagrees with. Clinton/Obama/McCain can't fix the economy... but the FairTax would.
- kublerross, on 03/21/2008, -1/+4the fact that most people in the US hold a view doesnt make it less crazy
- dexter411, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1You know the truth and they think they do it, too; there are plenty of non-crazy people who believe God created the mechanisms that would let evolution take place. Huckabee, in later interviews, specifically talks about how he doesn't deny that evolution happened, just that if the theory throws away a god, he disagrees. Who cares anyway? Is he running for president of the NSF?
- exronin, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5I completely disagree with almost everything that man says, but I respect him that atleast he is honest about everything that he believes in. He is basically the ultra conservatives "Obama"
- rentmitchum, on 03/21/2008, -1/+3My sister mom and dad are like Mike Huckabees for me.. Just avoid evolution, age of the earth.. haha
- TheLastFreeMan, on 03/21/2008, -1/+2Hang on I'm having another Digger moment... soo is the sis single?
- penguingeek, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2Absolutely. I have been friends with a coworker for as long as I've work at my current job. We don't share many political and religious views but we remain good friends. i always avoided the subjects anyway, but if he ever asked my opinion, I'd give it straight and clear. It's okay to be associated with different people. My circle of friends are a hodge podge of different types of people. If they were all the same as me, that'd be, well, boring.
- jmhyer51, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2Let's just all agree on one irrefutable fact: he would've still been way better than Bush.
- wendelgee2, on 03/20/2008, -6/+144Which was Obama's entire point. You can't go around repudiating everyone you disagree with. Some of the people you disagree with might be like family to you...or actual family.
- hankji, on 03/20/2008, -37/+1good my site
- jmkiii, on 03/20/2008, -0/+25Bad your site
- ziptnf, on 03/20/2008, -0/+3That was a complete thought.
- MacEnvy, on 03/20/2008, -0/+7Wow, are you the guy that owns abcnews.com? I thought it was Disney Corp.
- buhbyebot, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2No No No No No
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
No No No No on
Haiku
- cobbwobbles, on 03/20/2008, -13/+4wow huck changed scarborough's mind.
- nblsavage, on 03/20/2008, -18/+78Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Neither Obama, McCain or Clinton are responsible for other people's statements or beliefs.
- masterm1nd, on 03/20/2008, -29/+4Would they be responsible for them self physically going to listen to another's statements or believes for 20 years? If McCain were friend and spiritual student of a neo nazi for 20 years, and now that it surfaced he told us he was unaware of it, would he be responsible?
- nblsavage, on 03/20/2008, -8/+24Sorry, I still don't see anything anti-American or racist in any of Wright's statements. Sounds like you wingnuts can't handle anything remotely resembling the truth.
- masterm1nd, on 03/20/2008, -22/+5Ok, I guess we'll leave it up to the 95% of Americans that did then.
- nblsavage, on 03/20/2008, -4/+16source?
- masterm1nd, on 03/20/2008, -19/+5common sense?
- ironhide, on 03/20/2008, -4/+19Good old masterm1nd, you don't bother with facts, just truthiness.
- masterm1nd, on 03/20/2008, -18/+3ironhide, common sense? I think it was pretty obvious that 95% was a number picked off the top of my head representing a very freaking large portion of Americans, large enough in fact that the number itself does not matter. That's a pretty desperate attack if you ask me. Besides now that I look my guess was correct.
- neognostic, on 03/20/2008, -2/+19I'll bet none of them have even read or seen the entire sermon.
- nblsavage, on 03/20/2008, -2/+15So you are making up the 95% then? Pretty much what I thought.
- masterm1nd, on 03/20/2008, -17/+773% of voters said the comments were racially divisive, is that better for you. If you add Anti American to the number which isn't in this poll, I would probably be very close to guess 95%. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/pol ... .
- masterm1nd, on 03/20/2008, -14/+4Lol, bury the source you asked for.
- nblsavage, on 03/20/2008, -4/+13I didn't bury you smartass....and 73% of 1200 people means squat.
- masterm1nd, on 03/20/2008, -14/+2Well, I got two insti-buries on each comment I posted so I assume it was you and neocog. You obviously don't get the concept of a poll...
- nblsavage, on 03/20/2008, -1/+9I do get the concept of a poll, but I think a sample like that is far too small to get anything meaningful out of.
- hittnrun, on 03/20/2008, -16/+6Liberals are so predictable.
Public opinion is against the Iraq war. Yeah! TRUE DAT, Yo. Git those troops outta there.
Public opinion is against Obama and his racist preacher. Hell no!! 73% DON'T MEAN SQUAT. lol You racist for sayin' dat.
So freakin predicatable. - RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -10/+2masterm1nd don't worry about it, neognostic is an ass.
- nblsavage, on 03/20/2008, -3/+8@hitnrun, I said that 73 percent of 1200 people (876 people out of millions) didn't mean squat. You repugs are so predictable.
- pyronik, on 03/20/2008, -3/+2nblsavage, do you understand the basic concepts of statistics? a random sample of a group can extrapolate data about a larger group, then you can make statements about that data based on the sample volume to speak to the margin of error.. the confidence interval... you can argue against it but not on the basis of the sample (you can say it wasn't random enough or certain people didn't get called ...college kids with cell phones.. but then again most of them don't vote anyways so its not as big of an impact)
- masterm1nd, on 03/20/2008, -7/+3nbl, there are a dozen other polls saying the same thing. Why do you even cling to the notion that if the polls were different, it would change the fact that wrights comments were racist and anti American.
- MacEnvy, on 03/20/2008, -2/+8"Racially divisive" is not the same thing as "racist" or "anti-American". Really, it's not.
Polls can be useful, but not with that question. I thought the sermon was racially divisive, sure. That's why we're talking about it. But I didn't think it was racist or anti-American. Those are different concepts, though in the black and white world of Republican politics it can sometimes be hard to see nuance.
- facelesscoward, on 03/20/2008, -3/+12Well, he did say "God damn America." It's pretty hard to argue that that's not anti-American (though not impossible, considering how excessively
"anti-Americanism" has been thrown around to smother meaningful debate). Whether it's unjustified anti-Americanism is another matter entirely.- nblsavage, on 03/20/2008, -2/+12It's called hyperbole
- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -8/+2Maybe you haven't heard everything that Wright said:
YouTube - Best of Jeremiah Wright's Sermons Pt. 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=617eK2XIaLk
YouTube - Best of Jeremiah Wright's Sermons Pt. 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vaNBzU6iryo
YouTube - Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Clinton ain't never been called...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAYe7MT5BxM- knde, on 03/21/2008, -0/+7Would you please point me to the evidence of the "20 years of racist tirades"?
I keep seeing that phrase pop up in comments and I Googled for some evidence of this....no dice. The only clips that I can find are the ones you posted above. Those have made the rounds and yes the comments are somewhat incendiary but not particularly racist to me. Are there transcripts or videos of any OTHER speeches floating around?
I'm not trying to fan the flames, I would just like to see some evidence of these "20 years of racist tirades" so I can be more informed about the situation. Thank you :-) - Nth3nSum, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5I watched a few of those videos, I'm not seeing how different this is from Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock ranting about our society. He's just not funny.
People who whine about Rev. Wright's sermons sound like folks who forgot what happened to people his age. Damning America is hardly the worst thing that's been said, and maybe you should analyze why it bothers you so much that something like that could be said.
It's obvious that Obama does not hold the hate that Wright does.
- knde, on 03/21/2008, -0/+7Would you please point me to the evidence of the "20 years of racist tirades"?
- qwerter, on 03/20/2008, -2/+17The most patriotic thing any American can do is to question and criticize their own government. It's how our nation grown and develops.
P.S. How the hell did we get to the point where a black man who has suffered racial injustice his entire life is considered Anti-American for speaking up about it? This makes me furious.- masterm1nd, on 03/20/2008, -9/+5It probably has something to do with the whole "wishing damnation on America" thing
- qwerter, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1And for good reasons:
"... for killing innocent people."
"... for treating our citizens as less than human."
"... for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."
- pyronik, on 03/20/2008, -12/+2He said America was like Al Qaeda.. let me tell you a few things about al qaeda.. they torture prisoners (not waterboarding that is used to prevent more alqaeda attacks... no.. actual torture).. they cut off pow heads, they use human shields, they purposefully attack civilians... America has killed "civilians" but never has it been intentional its collateral... Al Qaeda thats their objective. We believe in freedom, they believe in Shari law or however you spell it. We ARE NOT like them and saying we are saying "the chickens have come home to roost" about 9/11 makes you a sick person. It truly does
- masterm1nd, on 03/20/2008, -22/+5Ok, I guess we'll leave it up to the 95% of Americans that did then.
- nblsavage, on 03/20/2008, -8/+24Sorry, I still don't see anything anti-American or racist in any of Wright's statements. Sounds like you wingnuts can't handle anything remotely resembling the truth.
- feliks2, on 03/20/2008, -2/+6Ummm, not if the hour and minute handsare broken off (or the LCD is broken).
- worknet70, on 03/20/2008, -10/+2yeah but if you don't agree with your pastor as in Obama's case you need to find a new pastor.
- rootofunity, on 03/20/2008, -0/+6Honestly you missed Huckabee's point. Everyone has their moments where emotion takes over. Maybe it was bottled up resentment for the mistreatment he dealt with early in his life that came bubbling out. I mean it wasn't as bad as Michael Richards but even then he was acting out of anger.
You cant generalize a person by one emotional incident.
- rootofunity, on 03/20/2008, -0/+6Honestly you missed Huckabee's point. Everyone has their moments where emotion takes over. Maybe it was bottled up resentment for the mistreatment he dealt with early in his life that came bubbling out. I mean it wasn't as bad as Michael Richards but even then he was acting out of anger.
- shaka999, on 03/20/2008, -8/+3Yeah, but it they are in your employ (paid or volunteer) it changes things.
- MacEnvy, on 03/20/2008, -1/+7And Wright is neither. He is unaffiliated with the campaign.
- arrggg, on 03/20/2008, -10/+9>> Neither Obama, McCain or Clinton are responsible for other people's statements or beliefs.
This is correct, but Obama CHOSE to Attend this Rev. Wrights sermons, and CHOSE to have his wedding and both his children by baptized him.- jhbarr, on 03/20/2008, -1/+21And McCain chose to sit with Hagee and Falwell and call them friends. As others have said why are African American preachers held to a higher standard than white ones and why the hell should I care what Obama's preacher says in church anyway. He is not running for president of Christian USA.
- rootofunity, on 03/20/2008, -0/+8Didnt those statements Rev. Wright made happen after his wedding and his childeren were baptized???
But your right he should of had the forsite to see that coming.
- robthom, on 03/20/2008, -0/+4But its reasonable to expect people should accountable for their OWN statements.
- deaddjembe, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2Even a blind squirrel finds his nuts sometimes.
- stretch611, on 03/21/2008, -3/+1"Even a broken clock is right twice a day." True enough, but in spite of that statement, the clock is completely unreliable because it is wrong 1438 times a day. (It will be wrong 86,398 times if you want to track seconds.)
- tim710, on 03/21/2008, -2/+2what if its a 24 hr clock?
- Diderotten, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1I love that saying. aside from technicalities based on varying degrees of clock malfunction, it works so well. don't mind if I steal it.
- masterm1nd, on 03/20/2008, -29/+4Would they be responsible for them self physically going to listen to another's statements or believes for 20 years? If McCain were friend and spiritual student of a neo nazi for 20 years, and now that it surfaced he told us he was unaware of it, would he be responsible?
- bullcutter, on 03/20/2008, -6/+104somehow this is probably going to be used against Obama by the Shillary camp, because they are that pathetic.
- hittnrun, on 03/20/2008, -3/+12Its gonna be used by McCain because it willl work on racist democrats who are going to have trouble pulling the lever for a black man.
- BobbyMC, on 07/21/2008, -2/+10McCain defended Obama first. It was surreal, but clearly genuine.
But keep in mind I am open to the idea his genuine purpose could have been setting a precedent so that when someone associated with him kills a ***** he doesn't look as bad as he would have.- bullcutter, on 03/20/2008, -0/+11either way, its a good thing for Obama.
his speech was truly amazing, and that's the first time i've ever said anything remotely positive about a presidential candidate too.
i can't believe the right is trying to warp the whole speech (which showed more balls than the last 3 presidents combined) into "he threw his grandmother under the bus!"
what ridiculous hogwash. but i'm pretty sure Obama will recover. the Pennsylvania primary is still a month away, and I think a lot is going to happen in that month. - stretch611, on 03/21/2008, -1/+2I believe that, while I have not been fond of McCain's recent views, I always believed he has some sense of honor and a step above using pure slander in a political race.
If the presidential race is between McCain and Obama, I actually expect to see one of the nicer/cleaner races of the last 20+ years. (Of course this does not mean that a third party won't run slander ads, but I doubt either candidate would approve of them.)- stretch611, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1Man, I screwed that parent post up and I did not realize it until now...
When I said third party, I did not mean a third political party, but a separatist group like "Swift Boat Vets."
- stretch611, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1Man, I screwed that parent post up and I did not realize it until now...
- bullcutter, on 03/20/2008, -0/+11either way, its a good thing for Obama.
- BobbyMC, on 07/21/2008, -2/+10McCain defended Obama first. It was surreal, but clearly genuine.
- rz8472, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2McCain knows he has his own pastor problems... to his credit he isn't attacking Obama over Wrightgate just yet. I wouldn't put it past Clinton though. The NY Times is reporting that while they are not making any public stink about it, they're using it in private to try to sway superdelegates. Also Clinton surrogate Lanny Davis came out with a hit piece yesterday essentially accusing Obama of condoning black racism.
And he's some food for thought - why isn't Clinton vigorously defending Obama over either Wrightgate or those "He's a Muslim" claims? - eclectro, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1What's interesting is that I think that possible "crossover" voters who vote conservative "get" this issue far better than some democrats do, and understand the context that it happenned as Obma described it.
- hittnrun, on 03/20/2008, -3/+12Its gonna be used by McCain because it willl work on racist democrats who are going to have trouble pulling the lever for a black man.
- jdh24, on 03/20/2008, -9/+95Huckabee: Hey, I say crazy ***** too!
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 03/20/2008, -39/+10Yeah they can't be held accountable, but returning week after week to hear more crazy $hit for years on end? And that's total BS Obama never heard that stuff before.
- wendelgee2, on 03/20/2008, -7/+6On the brink of a depression, and this is what upsets you?
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 03/21/2008, -1/+3Double standards upset me.
- StepCousin, on 03/21/2008, -1/+2"Recession", dumbass.
- Drax0n, on 03/20/2008, -2/+8your rigjht thats about as likely as Hillary getting years of experience while beinga first lady.
If she can't keep her husband from sneaking around on her, how the hell is she supposed to keep tabs on the entire planet. - robthom, on 03/20/2008, -2/+10Who is better than obama?
Who's the racist?
McCain who referred to asians as gooks?
Hillary who inferred that obama might be worthy of being her vice president if he would just stop the trying to president nonsense and behave like a good boy?
Show me where Obama said anything racist?
His mother and his mothers family who raised him are white. How can you possibly explain that he hates whites?- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -7/+4Typically it is known as guilt by association. There are laws in the United States against things that make you guilty without you having done something....and typically while speech is not one of them where a law is enforced there is a guilt by association that goes along with it.
Did you hear the speeches in their entirety? Maybe you haven't heard everything that Wright said:
YouTube - Best of Jeremiah Wright's Sermons Pt. 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=617eK2XIaLk
YouTube - Best of Jeremiah Wright's Sermons Pt. 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vaNBzU6iryo
YouTube - Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Clinton ain't never been called...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAYe7MT5BxM- robthom, on 03/20/2008, -2/+8I think a persons own words should be much more a measure of their character than the people they know. I understand that you can be judged by the company you keep, but I genuinely feel that your personal words and stance trumps that. I hang out with assholes sometimes because they may be the majority in my community. But it does not mean I agree with them. I'm also a catholic, but I am not a pedophile.
- mcquitty, on 03/20/2008, -4/+1Yes, but why would he have linked to the New Blank Panthers on his official website (which is now not there)?
- robthom, on 03/20/2008, -2/+8I think a persons own words should be much more a measure of their character than the people they know. I understand that you can be judged by the company you keep, but I genuinely feel that your personal words and stance trumps that. I hang out with assholes sometimes because they may be the majority in my community. But it does not mean I agree with them. I'm also a catholic, but I am not a pedophile.
- matu4251, on 03/20/2008, -1/+5McCain referred to the Viet Congs as gooks not asians in general. It was a term used by the us military to call the enemy during wars in asia. Generalizing to all asians is just as bad as saying Obama is racist because his reverent is.
- robthom, on 03/20/2008, -1/+4Same differance, except it came out of McCains mouth.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 03/21/2008, -1/+2Sorry but being tortured as a POW for years of your life gives you some leeway.
- dn11, on 03/21/2008, -1/+2But being beat about the head for marching for you own civil rights, or being forced to sit at the back of the bus, or being called racial slurs your whole life, doesn't give you any "leeway" to be angry? Do I detect a double standard NonLeftist?
- dn11, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1But being beat about the head for marching for you own civil rights, or being forced to sit at the back of the bus, or being called racial slurs your whole life, doesn't give you any "leeway" to be angry? Do I detect a double standard NonLeftist?
- matu4251, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2and Obama still decide to have Reverent Wright has his moral authority, have him preach moral to his daughters...If he didn't agree with Mr Wrights view why stay at his church for 20 years?
It's legitimate for people to ask those questions. It also shed a new light of what Michelle Obama said in february when she said that "for the first time” in her adult life, she was proud of America...
When you start to put everything together it becomes worrisome.
- robthom, on 03/20/2008, -1/+4Same differance, except it came out of McCains mouth.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 03/21/2008, -2/+3I didn't say he hates white, my friendly brilliant neighboorhood digger.
As a white guy, if I go to KKK ralliess because I like what they say about the economy or some other topic that doesn't have to do with race, I'm FKed. This is the same thing. - StepCousin, on 03/21/2008, -1/+2I agree. All three of them are despicable.
Concerning Obama being half white: Hitler's mother was Jewish, and I'm not so sure Obama isn't his incarnate.
- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -7/+4Typically it is known as guilt by association. There are laws in the United States against things that make you guilty without you having done something....and typically while speech is not one of them where a law is enforced there is a guilt by association that goes along with it.
- WasabiBomb, on 03/20/2008, -1/+11Either show us where Obama said something prejudicial, or shut the hell up. First it was his father, then it was his wife, and now it's his preacher- who's next, his dog?
The ONLY reason you're taking such offense to this is because you want YOUR candidate to look better. - dn11, on 03/20/2008, -1/+12He never said he never heard it before. he just said he wasn't there for that specific sermon. I'm sure Obama has heard it a million times, and not just from Rev. Wright. If you listened to what he was actually saying you might start to get it. Those sort of sentiments aren't rare in the black community. What Rev Wright was saying was mild compared to the anger of some black preachers. Obama was telling America: lets confront this, lets deal with it, because it is endemic.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 03/21/2008, -6/+3BLAH BLAH BLAH I want to suck obama's balls because I like how his delivery in speeches. Now I fit in.
- dn11, on 03/21/2008, -4/+1BLAH BLAH BLAH I believe ignorance is a virtue. Now I fit in.
- jflm3, on 03/21/2008, -3/+2I feel for you nonleftistdiggr. all the left assholes, and thats most on here, will ruthlessly and ignorantly push their agenda's just to "fit in" If everyone on here lived life from a moral compass, not just their "victim of circumstance (ie. bush, republicans, economy)" than this country would be in much better shape. Instead its them who have their heads so far up their asses, they don't know what they believe, as long as NBC, the AP, and reuters said it... it must be true.
- WasabiBomb, on 03/21/2008, -2/+1Or, just maybe, we've done our research and think that Obama's the best candidate. Did you think of that?
But I guess you wouldn't be able to feel persecuted, then.
- WasabiBomb, on 03/21/2008, -2/+1Or, just maybe, we've done our research and think that Obama's the best candidate. Did you think of that?
- WasabiBomb, on 03/21/2008, -2/+1Some of us decided who we're going to vote for based on the issues, instead of who Fox and O'Reilly tell us to vote for.
- wendelgee2, on 03/20/2008, -7/+6On the brink of a depression, and this is what upsets you?
- aldenhg, on 03/20/2008, -7/+30Hukabee... somewhat insightful? What's next, Clinton not taking a jab at Obama's speech? Oh... wait... she liked it... OK, politics are just getting to weird for me.
- Drax0n, on 03/20/2008, -1/+16She just wishes she had the ability to write a speech half that good, hell i bet she'd settle for finding a speech writer who could write a scpeech half as good as Obama's...
- notanidiot, on 03/20/2008, -8/+3I'm pretty sure HRC wants Obama to take her as his VP, and bang her in the lincoln bedroom. Payback time, Bill! Nothing burns a Southerner more than your wife cheating on you with a black man.
- thehawk23, on 03/20/2008, -0/+7This statement rings contrary to your name, notanidiot.
- notanidiot, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1Aww, whats wrong, can't take a joke?
- Monkeywithacold, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3I thought it was pretty funny...
- dshey, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2Hillary just wants to be in office. Member how she kissed McCains ass last month?? She really misses the white house.
- thehawk23, on 03/20/2008, -0/+7This statement rings contrary to your name, notanidiot.
- ZenMojo, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2In other news, Clinton sends surrogates like Lanny Davis to attack Obama on his speech....
- Zera, on 03/20/2008, -19/+3Bah, this is a stunt by Huckabee to give the media an excuse to KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT.
Or maybe he is truly being sincere and honest, even if it benefits a political opponent....... but I think it's the former. :/- facelesscoward, on 03/20/2008, -1/+5Well, they were talking about it. I'm sure Huckabee didn't say, "Hey Joe, I'll come on your show if you promise to keep talking about Obama's pastor." Besides, how much harm could "Mike Huckabee defends Obama amidst Rev. Wright media firestorm" really do to the campaign?
- rficwizard, on 03/20/2008, -1/+5More likely, this is a stunt by Huckabee to give the media an excuse to keep talking about HIM.
- pensivewombat, on 03/20/2008, -0/+4Huckabee may be a little (or more than a little) crazy, but I give him credit for being a genuine good guy, so I hope it's the latter.
- Xios117, on 03/20/2008, -2/+1Huckabee is no longer running, therefore he isn't opponents with Obama.
- facelesscoward, on 03/20/2008, -0/+26McCain said the same thing. And he's (probably) his opponent.
- fadeout, on 03/20/2008, -4/+69I don't care for a lot of his positions but Huckabee is a class act. Out of all of the "big" players in this election cycle, he and Obama are the only ones who don't come off like they'd say or do anything to get their grimy fingers on a bit of power. I would have said the same thing about McCain 4 years ago, in all fairness.
- SIRBERUS, on 03/20/2008, -9/+5Oh.. so when Huckabee was at an NRA rally and said something like "There is duck hunting in Heaven", then went on to tell about how he shot a deer and it felt like "angels carried the bullet" right to it...
That wasn't him just trying to get votes? Or is he really that bat-***** crazy?- fotbr, on 03/20/2008, -6/+3Probably a little of both, but mostly being bat-***** crazy.
- cderry, on 03/20/2008, -2/+10Do you really have no sense of humor, sirberus? Because even following your quotes of him sounds like he was trying to make a joke about being a bad shot.
- SIRBERUS, on 03/22/2008, -1/+1If he was joking, it'd be one thing, but he is apparently that crazy. Go look at the video before you try to assume what he was doing in it.
- BobbyMC, on 07/21/2008, -3/+2If he WASN'T joking, I'd say he was more likely just crazy than getting votes. I can't even think of any sect of religious people who would not find that at LEAST "odd".
- fadeout, on 03/21/2008, -2/+4He is a weird mixture of a religious fundamentalist and a standup comic. I don't try to explain he says, however none if it seems to be out of straight up maliciousness or deceit.
- SPThom, on 03/20/2008, -2/+6You must not have known McCain four years ago, then. I live in AZ, and it seems like most people here have hated him since I moved here in '98. Who actually continues to elect him is beyond me.
- fadeout, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2I have a friend who lives out there, he's told me that McCain's voting bloc is the old, white people who continue to retire to Arizona. *shrug*
Didn't like his war stance, ever, but he seemed like an ok guy on the budget deficit and such until he sold out to the religious right.
- fadeout, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2I have a friend who lives out there, he's told me that McCain's voting bloc is the old, white people who continue to retire to Arizona. *shrug*
- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -12/+1"Out of all of the "big" players in this election cycle, he and Obama are the only ones who don't come off like they'd say or do anything to get their grimy fingers on a bit of power."
You have bad logic and are are an ass.- Bologner, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3You have an ass logic and are bad.
- MCBAIKO, on 03/20/2008, -10/+4There is only ONE TRUE "Class Act" candidate for President! The only person who is not in this race for power, greed, ego or personal gain. That person is NOT Mike Huckabee and DEFINATELY NOT OBAMA!!!!. IT IS RON PAUL!!!!!! Digg me down if you must, I just call em like I see em.
- Nth3nSum, on 03/21/2008, -2/+7Ron Paul sounds like Rev Wright talking about the government. Not surprised that you see the correlation.
- Monkeywithacold, on 03/21/2008, -3/+6you are almost as annoying as the truthers.
- fadeout, on 03/21/2008, -1/+3The Paultards are the Truthers.
- fadeout, on 03/21/2008, -1/+3The Paultards are the Truthers.
- coyoteblue, on 03/21/2008, -1/+4Hey Ron Paul spammers, listen up. I have an important announcement. Are you ready? Ok?
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
kthnxbai - Bologner, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1So do PAC-10 referees.
- SIRBERUS, on 03/20/2008, -9/+5Oh.. so when Huckabee was at an NRA rally and said something like "There is duck hunting in Heaven", then went on to tell about how he shot a deer and it felt like "angels carried the bullet" right to it...
- davidwasman, on 03/20/2008, -9/+5Now if only we could wake the rest of America (and the MSM) up to reality and have them agree.
- LBobRife, on 03/20/2008, -6/+2Using the term "wake up" (and sheeple for that matter) is going to get you buried. Try using something that isn't a catchphrase used commonly by conspiracy nuts.
- davidwasman, on 03/20/2008, -5/+2So now there's 'comment decorum' on Digg? Sorry, I will not apologize for my comments or my wording or change it for some hyper-sensitive knucklehead who can't handle it.
- LBobRife, on 03/20/2008, -1/+1I'm just trying to help you out so more of your comments will get read. I do not care if you use the term. Continue if you feel like, and continue getting buried past the point of people seeing what you have to say.
- davidwasman, on 03/20/2008, -5/+2So now there's 'comment decorum' on Digg? Sorry, I will not apologize for my comments or my wording or change it for some hyper-sensitive knucklehead who can't handle it.
- LBobRife, on 03/20/2008, -6/+2Using the term "wake up" (and sheeple for that matter) is going to get you buried. Try using something that isn't a catchphrase used commonly by conspiracy nuts.
- dunderballer, on 03/20/2008, -15/+4Sounds like Huckabee doesn't want preachers to have accountability for intolerance. Wright-gate has shown that democrats won't give "passes" to their own candidates for intolerance and will continue to never give passes. And, no Huckabee, Wright's statements were not taken out of context. When Huckabee was criticized for taking part in the newspaper article calling for women to submit to their husbands, he defended his action by saying that it needed to be examined within the context of the biblical verse even though the advertisement didn't present it within the "context" of the biblical verse. Nether Huckabee nor Wright get a pass.
- WasabiBomb, on 03/20/2008, -0/+4Oh, for cryin' out loud.
Obama hasn't been shown to be intolerant in the least. AT MOST, his minister has said some things that others have taken offense to- and Obama has denounced those things. People like you are trying to convict him of thoughtcrime- he "might" be prejudiced... or you might be making it all up so that YOUR candidate stands a better chance. AT BEST it can be said that he continued to go to the church for twenty years, that he maintained a relationship with Wright- BUT THAT'S IT. No evidence of Obama's intolerance has been shown, other than in the fevered imaginations of people like you.
I've had enough. This is getting ridiculous. Debate the issues, debate the candidate's words, debate the candidate's actions- but stop trying to paint with innuendo.- Aensland, on 03/20/2008, -0/+3Exactly. They indulge in that kind of reasoning then wonder why the rest of the world thinks that your elections are mudslinging matches. FFS.
- MaximusD, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1Please never use the phrase "Wrightgate" again. It's stupid. Really, really stupid.
- WasabiBomb, on 03/20/2008, -0/+4Oh, for cryin' out loud.
- Picaroon, on 03/20/2008, -10/+81Huckabee is an honest guy, and while I know that means that Diggers hate him because he thinks differently, he's keeping it real.
- demonsnake69, on 03/20/2008, -12/+35The real reason Diggers hate Huckabee is because he's a religious man. If Huckabee was an atheist and wanted to force atheism upon others no one on Digg would say ***** about him
- DYMongoose, on 03/20/2008, -3/+18Well put, sir.
- dch111, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2Well, not if he wanted to /force/ atheism upon others.
- Exodin, on 03/21/2008, -4/+4He's not just religious man, he doesn't believe an evolution.. that makes him an idiot, too. He's a nice idiot.
- centerblack, on 03/21/2008, -2/+2I disagree. Barack Obama identifies himself as a Christian, and Digg loves Obama. Clearly it's not that he's religious.
Huckabee is more of a fundamentalist Christian (or at least represents himself that way). He specifically said he wanted to amend the constitution so that it was up to "Gods Standards" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yG_8CigCCc
He also doesn't believe in evolution.
For those reasons, Digg doesn't want Mike Huckabee to be President of the USA.
Also, I don't think Digg wants any ideology pushed on them, wether it's atheism or some religion or anything.
- DYMongoose, on 03/20/2008, -3/+18Well put, sir.
- dn11, on 03/20/2008, -2/+11He can keep it real, and I can still disagree with him on a vast number of issues. That's fine. I never denied that he seems to be genuine in his religious beliefs - that is why the neo cons don't like him. His message of social justice, which seems to be genuine, interferes with their fascist agenda.
- oldgal, on 03/20/2008, -1/+8I have always liked Mike Huckabee, but disagree with him on many things - now I respect him more. My biggest disagreement is the religious one. My own belief system is personal, and I do not want it forced on others, mostly because it changes as I study religious histories and texts. I am for much more separation of church and state than he.
- dexter411, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2But he is fine with separation. He's the only "I love Jesus" right-winger from this election cycle that is AGAINST school prayer. The fact that he's so strong in his beliefs seem to make Diggers hate him, which is sad since he's quite a good guy.
- centerblack, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1Really? Separation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yG_8CigCCc
I don't hate the guy, I just don't want the Bible making decisions for the President of the USA.- dexter411, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1Mmm... context, no? Not surprising you'd link to Keith, but if you looked at what he was talking about, a pro-life and anti-gay marriage Amendment to the Constitution, it would seem a lot less crazy. But who needs the full story when you can start with an argument and work backwards...
PS: Not to say I like the idea of doing either of these things, but just as some people know not to murder because they have an abstract moral feeling that it's bad, he believes killing babies and letting two dudes get married is bad because god says so. So be it - all of our common-law-rooted laws against violence and crime stem directly from 15th century laws that WERE rooted in dogma. - centerblack, on 03/24/2008, -0/+1Dexter, you're a ***** moron.
That's the youtube video I found first. I'm not gonna edit it so you don't have to look at keith's plastic makeup covered face.
Go ***** yourself.
- dexter411, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1Mmm... context, no? Not surprising you'd link to Keith, but if you looked at what he was talking about, a pro-life and anti-gay marriage Amendment to the Constitution, it would seem a lot less crazy. But who needs the full story when you can start with an argument and work backwards...
- centerblack, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1Really? Separation?
- dexter411, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2But he is fine with separation. He's the only "I love Jesus" right-winger from this election cycle that is AGAINST school prayer. The fact that he's so strong in his beliefs seem to make Diggers hate him, which is sad since he's quite a good guy.
- demonsnake69, on 03/20/2008, -12/+35The real reason Diggers hate Huckabee is because he's a religious man. If Huckabee was an atheist and wanted to force atheism upon others no one on Digg would say ***** about him
- daxsymbiont, on 03/20/2008, -19/+3obama will soon become another puppet of the status quo..
we'll be here when all of you voting him will be winning how bad he turned out to be.- Drax0n, on 03/20/2008, -3/+7Obama is sadly.. the only real hope left.. If your saying that than either you delusional.. or you've already given up all hope.
In either case... You have my pity sir.- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -11/+3Drax0n: "Obama is such a man such a man such a man....fap fap fap fap fap fap!"
- chevyorange, on 03/20/2008, -0/+3RepubOperative: I like to see myself type.
It has to be because you are immediately buried. In fact, I have you blocked but I unblock your comments just to digg them down.
- chevyorange, on 03/20/2008, -0/+3RepubOperative: I like to see myself type.
- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -11/+3Drax0n: "Obama is such a man such a man such a man....fap fap fap fap fap fap!"
- robthom, on 03/20/2008, -0/+3This is a revolution against morons who go to war but cant spell it.
- Xios117, on 03/20/2008, -0/+5I've put the last vestige of my hope into Obama and his campaign. After he wins the White House, he's got to deliver or I will be done with American politics.
- Aensland, on 03/20/2008, -0/+2When all else fails, vote from the rooftops.
/sniper
- Aensland, on 03/20/2008, -0/+2When all else fails, vote from the rooftops.
- MentalHazard, on 03/20/2008, -0/+0http://www.instructorweb.com/resources/grammar.asp
- Drax0n, on 03/20/2008, -3/+7Obama is sadly.. the only real hope left.. If your saying that than either you delusional.. or you've already given up all hope.
- rsek, on 03/20/2008, -11/+20no one likes hillary and mccain.
- kuppoppo, on 03/20/2008, -0/+30Thank you for your dazzling insight into our political process.
- laserblazer, on 03/20/2008, -7/+2They stink of their misdeeds, but McCain reeks by far the worst.
- fotbr, on 03/20/2008, -4/+3A lot of people like both. I don't understand why, but they do exist.
- robthom, on 03/20/2008, -2/+3But why not? Think brother or sister, think!
- Pillage, on 03/20/2008, -4/+9I like McCain.
- Cyrus042, on 03/21/2008, -3/+2No one?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/105073/McCains-67-Favor ...
Favorable / Unfavorable Ratings: (%)
Clinton: 53 / 44
Obama: 62 / 33
McCain: 67 / 27 - cordtripper, on 03/21/2008, -1/+3Hey even bush has 31% of people who like him
- Monkeywithacold, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3Kinda like how Hillary voted for the war, even though she didn't want it to pass?
- tim710, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2I don't mind McCain.
Hillary on the other hand may very well have a Snuke in her snach...- Pillage, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1Snizz*
- shark72, on 03/20/2008, -13/+20To put this in context, Huckabee was the candidate whose son killed that dog. He's probably still stinging a bit from people pointing out that his son being a dog killer reflects poorly on him. So, I'm not terribly surprised that he's taking this position.
- cl2yp71c, on 03/20/2008, -5/+6Or maybe he's just preparing for w/e else his son has killed to turn up on the news.
- SIRBERUS, on 03/20/2008, -7/+8You're being a bit too nice.
Let me refresh everyone's memory to the fact that his son did indeed kill a dog... but hanging it by its neck and throwing rocks at it.- dexter411, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1Yup, when he was seventeen. Oh the horror.
- centerblack, on 03/21/2008, -2/+1I was 17 once. No one told me that hanging a dog by its neck and throwing rocks at it was bad or wrong. Yet.... I didn't hang a dog by its neck and throw rocks at it.
Yes. The horror. There is clearly something wrong with you if you do things like that.- dexter411, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1Yes... and he's in his 30s now. How does something his son do 20 years ago reflect upon Huckabee again? Do you believe Obama can't be President because his pastor is a nut? Or that Hillary can't be President because she has advisors who have made racist comments on the air?
Can't get to pick and choose guilt of association, my stupid friend. - centerblack, on 03/24/2008, -0/+1dexter. I didn't say anything about Huckabee Sr. now did I, head *****? No, I didn't. Re-read my comment and notice that the name above it is different than every other comment in this ***** thread.
I replied to YOUR COMMENT, which implies that hanging dogs and throwing rocks at them is OK either because he was 17 at the time, or because it was 13 years ago. Maybe he's not ***** up now, hopefully his dad knocked some ***** sense into him.
Do you fabricate arguments for other people to have with you in real life too?
Please go outside and bang your head on the concrete a few times.
Thanks.
- dexter411, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1Yes... and he's in his 30s now. How does something his son do 20 years ago reflect upon Huckabee again? Do you believe Obama can't be President because his pastor is a nut? Or that Hillary can't be President because she has advisors who have made racist comments on the air?
- centerblack, on 03/21/2008, -2/+1I was 17 once. No one told me that hanging a dog by its neck and throwing rocks at it was bad or wrong. Yet.... I didn't hang a dog by its neck and throw rocks at it.
- dexter411, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1Yup, when he was seventeen. Oh the horror.
- Xios117, on 03/20/2008, -7/+3Irrelevant and generally bad comment.
Boooo. - robthom, on 03/20/2008, -2/+3Could be. I dont approve of those things. But that doesn't take away from the fact that Obama is the best chance for a future that isn't a slow descent into repetition and failure for this country.
- InspectorGadget, on 03/20/2008, -15/+4Huckabee's just worried that scrutiny of religious whackos will spread...because he is one. He and Mr. Wright have a lot in common: both read a boring novel as a work of non-fiction.
- seomike, on 03/20/2008, -17/+7Whats the difference between going to an all white church vs an all black church that race hustles? If you're Barrack Obama you get away with it if you're David Duke you don't...
- pensivewombat, on 03/20/2008, -5/+7A big ***** difference.
- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -9/+5A big ***** difference...on Digg where the socialists congregate.
- malex, on 03/20/2008, -5/+2Actually, it's a big ***** difference to anyone who can tell the difference between:
A) A person who thinks that black people have been treated unfairly in this society, and
B) A person who thinks that black people should be treated MORE unfairly.
Can you argue that people like Wright have exaggerated the disadvantage that black people are under, and that this leads to conspiracy theories and a self-defeating form of Identity Politics? Yeah, I'd say so. But if you honestly can't differentiate between people who want more racial equality and less racial equality, you are truly deluded beyond all measure.- RepubOperative, on 03/21/2008, -2/+3Its 2008 already pack it in *****. I've never done ***** to a black person so quit ***** me in the ass over it already! ***** OFF!
- cordtripper, on 03/21/2008, -1/+2yeah black people have had rights for like what 40 years now why are they still complaining. if they don't like it here there free to purchase a plane ticket and fly back to Africa, maybe they cant find their old tribe and say whats up. I mean we let them drink from our own fountains now, they go to the same schools as us for the past 50 years you'd think that they would get over the whole involuntary transportation and slavery thing I mean I don't even know the guys who did that. they should just go and desecrate some cementaries that will help, because everyone knows that after the civil rights act the rainbows came out and white and black people held hands.
as if I even had to /sarcasm
- Stevanoski, on 03/20/2008, -2/+3Repub, have tried to digg you several times but the system will not let me, takes me to a "web page not available",
- RepubOperative, on 03/21/2008, -2/+3No idea...maybe they are getting ready to get rid of my account....again.
- malex, on 03/20/2008, -5/+2Actually, it's a big ***** difference to anyone who can tell the difference between:
- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -9/+5A big ***** difference...on Digg where the socialists congregate.
- Xios117, on 03/20/2008, -2/+3How the hell has Obama gotten away from it scott-free?
- seomike, on 03/21/2008, -1/+1So you're trying to tell me that the press and party don't look the other way on ex-klansmen like Senator Bird? It's typical liberal doctrine 101. If you are a *****/racists/segregationist/socialist/communist and democrat it's ok... If you are republican it's a scandal and big news...
Obama sits in the black only/race hustler church for 20 years, donates thousands to it, baptizes his kids there, gets married there and has the freaking guy on his campaign. vs John McCain gets an endorsement and accepts it from Hagee who he's never listened to or met and he's a Jew and Catholic hater now... You libs are something else...
- pensivewombat, on 03/20/2008, -5/+7A big ***** difference.
- lawguru, on 03/20/2008, -12/+3So now everyone likes Huckabee... where were you all when he needed your vote?
- DYMongoose, on 03/20/2008, -0/+2I was waiting for my march 11th primary. Too bad the nomination was already secured by McCain... Staggered primaries are not fair.
- cassjewelry, on 03/20/2008, -0/+5He's OK personally, but I don't agree with his policies, and in a president, that's what is important- not whether I think he's the sort of person I'd have a beer with.
- dn11, on 03/20/2008, -0/+6 because he said one intelligent thing doesn't mean I would vote for him. I bet I could even find one thing Bush said I agree with if I looked hard enough.
- ChimpFlix, on 03/20/2008, -11/+2Mike will do or say anything to get press time these days.
- fotbr, on 03/20/2008, -1/+5Of course he will. He's a politician.
- mooseontheloose, on 03/20/2008, -18/+8Funny how quickly the Bamabots change their tune when their racist candidate shows his true colors. Weren't you all up in arms last week saying Clinton should withdraw from the race because of Ferraro's "racist" comments?
- fotbr, on 03/20/2008, -3/+9I don't remember seeing too many people calling for her to drop out of the race because of it. I saw a lot of people saying she needed to distance herself from Ferraro.
- dn11, on 03/20/2008, -2/+8what racist candidate? what true colors? do you even know what you're talking about? Nope.
- rz8472, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3Clinton took a week for those comments to foment, then stated that she "disagreed" with her, and did nothing to kick her off the campaign. To date she's never really rebuked those comments.
Obama took responsibility, reacted to Wright's comments, and took him off the religious committee the next day.
- chesbo, on 03/20/2008, -22/+11HOPE..CHANGE...HOPE...CHANGE. OBAMA IS A GOD. IT'S FINALLY HERE PEOPLE. YOU MUST WORSHIP OBAMA!! HOPE..CHANGE.
- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -13/+1ObamaBots: Fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap
- dn11, on 03/20/2008, -3/+8^ Bush destroying the world for corporate profit *CUMS*
- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -13/+1ObamaBots: Fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap
- czeman, on 03/20/2008, -11/+2He's just pissed cuz he lost.
- senjin, on 03/20/2008, -16/+4Those religious bastards all stick together.
- dfours, on 03/20/2008, -2/+0What's wrong with faith and loyalty?
- RainNIU, on 03/20/2008, -1/+3If that was true, we'd have peace in the middle east.
- hurricanewane, on 03/20/2008, -16/+2That's not the point. The point is he continues to listen to this nutjob and go back for more so he must believe or agree to what he says for the most part.
- caketank, on 03/20/2008, -0/+6Not everyone is such a simpleton.
- bjs3171, on 03/20/2008, -6/+21i'm sure every single sermon made my this pastor is an angry one about the plight of the black man. every single one, every week.
/sarcasm- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -8/+2Maybe you haven't heard everything that Wright said. It is just a sample of what he said I agree....they didn't want to take the time to release all of it.
YouTube - Best of Jeremiah Wright's Sermons Pt. 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=617eK2XIaLk
YouTube - Best of Jeremiah Wright's Sermons Pt. 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vaNBzU6iryo
YouTube - Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Clinton ain't never been called...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAYe7MT5BxM
- RepubOperative, on 03/20/2008, -8/+2Maybe you haven't heard everything that Wright said. It is just a sample of what he said I agree....they didn't want to take the time to release all of it.
- acroyear2, on 03/20/2008, -3/+21There's nothing strange about this at all. I defend all of them. This has been blown out of proportion because the dominant society in this nation is scared to death of others.
- NelsonR, on 03/20/2008, -9/+10Any intelligent person would acknowledge that the words and past personal deeds of Senator Obama are freshening. A shame the words spoken go over the head of those who desire no change, no hope but a continuation of the Fear parties use to promote their agenda. America will always have the idiots looking for any pretext to disavow this change and personally I say to you go live in a tree with the other monkeys that perpetuate the same old passe argument of division. When you heard Obama's friend remarks many said to themselves, now I have the dirt I was looking for. No you have the excuse you were looking for but you will not accept the truth. To bad you couldn't be judged upon the acts of any friends or mentors you might have!!
- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -4/+1Obama's words were neither new, particularly enlightening to what brought him to this point in his candidacy, or useful to anyone not already worshiping at his feet. I liked the speech - as it's core message has been said so many times before. It just overall came across to this observer as somone 'changing the subject' in the middle of explaining himself. He never got to the 'himself' part - only talked about distancing himself from the pastors views. You yourself use he word idiot in your text above - it's just another way of making other people sound bad to make yourself feel good. Division starts and STOPS with you. practice it. I believe Obama is trying to get that message across to everyone right - ? Including you.
- UnbiasedDigger, on 03/20/2008, -10/+1yes "strange days" indeed, since all republicans are racist and backwards...(insert sarcasm)
- kuppoppo, on 03/20/2008, -6/+0Am I the only one who sees an uncanny resemblance between Mike Huckabee and President Logan on 24?
- ElatusDeus, on 03/20/2008, -7/+1He's still crazy.
- Scheissen, on 03/20/2008, -11/+3Oh, how the tides have turned. Gobamaclones!
- RRJackson, on 03/20/2008, -14/+2The Republicans are terrified that Obama won't be the DNC nominee. I'll bet they were hoping Obama's ties to radical black nationalism and Islam wouldn't surface until after he had the nomination. Stuff like this was going to do their work for them:
http://digg.com/politics/Obama_s_Church_Reprints_H ... - Bkaufman, on 03/20/2008, -15/+3Continue living inside your cocoons, diggers....Polls released today show that Obama is going waaaay down with white working class people and independents. You are judged by your company, and keeping company with a man who spews hate speech on a regular basis shows an extreme lack of judgment. I'm glad to see that mainstream america agrees with me (even if Digg doesn't). If this were McCain, or even Hillary, who we've seen and known for many years to not be racist, maybe I could give this a pass. But Obama has been running a fluff Campaign, (see Carter, Jimmy: "I will not lie to you")...Obama has claimed to be a uniter, not a divider, but there are few people more divisive than the Reverend Wright. Digg me down, ObamaBots!
- dfours, on 03/20/2008, -0/+6You would distance yourself from a friend and teacher of many years out of fear that others would disagree with him and in turn judge you? I don't mean to pass judgement, but that seems shallow or disloyal.
- NelsonR, on 03/20/2008, -0/+0Rather than post obtain your GED, it will help you in the future.
- MaximusD, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2Wright is a Christian minister, and although some of his comments are terrible, there are many more about redemption, love, grace and charity. I've known of Wright's church for a long time and know for a fact that "hate speech" isn't spoken on an everyday basis. I even (barely) know a former white member who said her experience was extremely positive and never felt excluded or judged for her skin.
- Mikey9oo, on 03/20/2008, -3/+23I would never vote for him, but I always thought Huckabee was more level headed and real than McCain, Romney, or the likes.
This confirms it. - demonsnake69, on 03/20/2008, -3/+44People on Digg hate Huckabee because he's quite religious and automatically see him as an evil person. While I personally don't agree with Huckabee's politics, you have to be dumb to not realize that he's a genuinely good person.
- joshuasawyer, on 03/21/2008, -6/+3He has a lot of ideologies and religious views supposedly guided by religion that are very messed up. Like his views on a woman's place in society etc. "He believes that women should submit gracefully to the leadership of their husbands." He may be a nice guy in personalty, but that does not make him "genuinely good".
http://polizine.com/2008/01/31/5-reasons-to-be-ver ... Read!- Shawn4168, on 03/21/2008, -3/+5What's so messed up about that? Plenty of people believe that the husband should be the leader of the marriage, and that the wife should graciously submit to him. That's not to say that the wife should be a slave, or that the husband should dominate over her, it simply means that the wife should relinquish leadership to the husband. The same part of the Bible that Huck is getting that from says that husbands need to love and respect their wives.
Sure, it's offensive to ultra feminists, but the idea of a husband leading the marriage has worked for thousands of years...you really can't argue that.- centerblack, on 03/21/2008, -1/+2Define "leading the marriage"
- Shawn4168, on 03/21/2008, -3/+5What's so messed up about that? Plenty of people believe that the husband should be the leader of the marriage, and that the wife should graciously submit to him. That's not to say that the wife should be a slave, or that the husband should dominate over her, it simply means that the wife should relinquish leadership to the husband. The same part of the Bible that Huck is getting that from says that husbands need to love and respect their wives.
- joshuasawyer, on 03/21/2008, -6/+3He has a lot of ideologies and religious views supposedly guided by religion that are very messed up. Like his views on a woman's place in society etc. "He believes that women should submit gracefully to the leadership of their husbands." He may be a nice guy in personalty, but that does not make him "genuinely good".
- gsandha99, on 03/20/2008, -1/+23woww....You GO HUCK! i especially like the last paragraph about cutting some slack...that was all these idiots on fox news and cnn (Lou Dobbs) dont understand...that if your dad was pushed around and hated on and beat up in highschool...that maybe you would carry some of that baggage....
good job HUCK for speakin your mind...and being logical.....this time...lol I mean segregation ended in the 60's...thats only ***** 50 years ago man! thats like yesterday....and what, now you expect everything to be completely fair and equal and for people to forget what happened...the older generation forgives but doesnt forget!
PS. im not black...nor white.....im brown...so yea - RRJackson, on 03/20/2008, -10/+1Obama headed to Gitmo?
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll163/mcouncil_ ... - Ryalnos, on 03/20/2008, -2/+7Indeed, demonsnake69. It seems a particular issue with fools in politics that they equate people who hold opposing political views as being 'evil' rather than wrong. Perhaps because it makes them feel they are then justified in hating them rather than just being at disagreement with them.
In this particular case, when one of these politicians who holds opposing viewpoints (Huckabee) does something honorable (defend Obama), they are instantly accused of trying to get themselves television time, or some other ulterior motive. Right when this started McCain was on with Hannity while he and other conservative pundits were picking up on the Wright story. McCain basically waved off Hannity's attempt to draw some criticism about Wright.
Anyway, it is more worthwhile to focus on arguments that support your case instead of attacking your opponents. - mal1964, on 03/20/2008, -6/+1Anyone seen my Flip-flops?
- robthom, on 03/20/2008, -5/+7Obama has never said anything racist.
McCain has, and its arguable that Hillary has taken a racist stance on occasion ("mabey he can be my vice president").
Obama's mother and the family who raised him are white! How can he hate white people?- JointVenture, on 03/20/2008, -7/+6Ooops , I think you ***** up. Never?
From 'Dreams of My Father',
"I CEASED TO ADVERISE MY MOTHER'S RACE AT THE AGE OF12 OR 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"
From Dreams of My Father, " I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER'S RACE".
From 'Dreams of my Father', "The emotion between the races could never be pure..... the THE OTHER RACE (WHITE) WOULD ALWAYS REMAIN JUST THAT: MENACING, ALIEN AND APART"
From Dreams Of My Father, "never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. IT WAS INTO MY FATHER'S IMAGE , THE BLACK MAN, THE SON OF AFRICA, THAT I'D PACKED ALL THE ATTRIBUTES I SOUGHT IN MYSELF.- WasabiBomb, on 03/20/2008, -2/+7Those are the most racially controversial remarks you can find? Seriously?
- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -6/+1He forgot to tell you to take off the rose-colored glasses. See when you're not filtering comments through Obamavision - you can see things a little more clearly. There are more comments that I wonder why he didn't choose to include. His 'rage against the white man' was pretty deep seeded at a young age - and he talked about not wanting to participate with 'white' people well into his 20's. Then he met Jeremiah Wright - who mentored him into adulthood. So - I understand what JointVenture is getting at. Obama is being disingenuous when he talks about unity. Hillary Clinton offered that olive branch weeks back and he scoffed. HE was running for president.
- sulthernao, on 03/21/2008, -2/+3Looks like your a spammer so I'll repeat myself again. This book is based about his teenage years, when he was trying to find his identity. Also it looks like some of your quotes are egregiously out of context.
- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -4/+2Out of context ? Speaking about race and his disdain for those that did not fit his ideal is not out of context. JointVenture quoted ... Quoted ... Obama. : ) Egregious ? riiiight. This particular memoir went far beyond his teenage years - through college and out into the adult world as an organizer in Chicago. Not a childs recollection.
Let me add a few I found illuminating of the character flaws still awash in the fog supporter euphoria.
These are Obama's mental ruminations from 'Dreams of my Father'
We were always playing on the white man's court . . . by the white man's rules," he writes. "If the principal, or the coach, or a teacher . . . wanted to spit in your face, he could, because he had the power and you didn't. . . . The only thing you could choose was withdrawal into a smaller and smaller coil of rage.
"And the final irony: should you refuse this defeat and lash out at your captors . . . they would have a name for that too. Paranoid. Militant."
"Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though," he says.
Illegal drug use, rage against someone based on the color of their skin ... Nope -this is not the man I want to vote for either. What runs through your mind ? These thought do not have a home in mine. - 1timeuser, on 03/21/2008, -2/+2Take a chill pill
People do things, often stupid things when they are young. If you think any of the other candidates didnt at some point in time use illegal drugs or make a generalization about an entire peoples before... you've got a few screws loose. EVERYONE DOES! It's important to learn from these mistakes as you mature and grow.- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -2/+2Reading the posts above it does sound like the two of us are angry doesn't it. : ) Except - those hateful words are not ours. They are the rants of your choice for president of the highest office in the land. I believe strongly in personal responsibility and accountability. Obama hasn't addressed any of this during his election. He managed to distance himself from hatespeek - and then again, really didn't at all in the final analysis of his last speech. He lost a tremendous opportunity to explain himself and just flubbed it. It was uncharacteristic of his normal speaking style - but his digg supporters didn't miss a beat. I sometimes get the impression that if he read the back of a catchup bottle while standing on stage people would still cheer. : )
Despite your feelings that everyone out there lives with drug use and a racist heart - I am here to say that everyone doesn't - and everyone hasn't in their lives. The blanket of 'everyone screws up when they're young' may work well for the majority of apologists - but NOT when it comes to who holds the highest office in the land. Cast your vote as you see fit. I'm proud to vote right beside you - for my own candidate of choice. But my hope is that with enough exposure and revelation - people will see the side Obama's pretty words and well cadanced speech hide in time for the remaining delegates to learn the true positives and negatives about both candidates before they cast their own personal votes in the primaries and caucuses to come. - 1timeuser, on 03/21/2008, -2/+2For some reason I cant reply directly to your posts.
Just because people have used drugs does not make them addicts and just because people have said stupid things about other people doesn't make them racists. In my opinion its better to do those things and learn from those mistakes then to have never done them at all. Those people that claim not to have made at least one of these mistakes are either liars or loose cannons.
It would be kick ass if Jesus or Buddha ran for president, unfortunately they aren't. We'll have to deal with mere mortals who make mistakes for now. - runCMD, on 03/22/2008, -0/+21timeuser - yeah that happens to me sometimes - must be a bug in digg. The issue for me isn't that I don't think Obama is a bad person for having tried the things ( that I have not ) or held contempt for people based on the color of their skin ( which I have not ) ( and I am really not a liar or a lose canon : ) but that after growing up having done those things - he spends 20 years with a spiritual mentor like Jeremiah Wright and then wants to be my president. My choice in that role would not be a man with that type of experience. If Hillary and Obama were both playing on a level playground - the choice would be harder for me to make. But given what I've seen, read, heard - my personal choice is clear. From the Obama support evident on Digg - you are not alone in your support for your candidate. In the real world - people like me are still lining up to vote for Hillary. So this is a good contest and could be a great debate - if Digg Obama supporters in general weren't so nasty in their attacks against Hillary Clinton.
- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -2/+2Reading the posts above it does sound like the two of us are angry doesn't it. : ) Except - those hateful words are not ours. They are the rants of your choice for president of the highest office in the land. I believe strongly in personal responsibility and accountability. Obama hasn't addressed any of this during his election. He managed to distance himself from hatespeek - and then again, really didn't at all in the final analysis of his last speech. He lost a tremendous opportunity to explain himself and just flubbed it. It was uncharacteristic of his normal speaking style - but his digg supporters didn't miss a beat. I sometimes get the impression that if he read the back of a catchup bottle while standing on stage people would still cheer. : )
- JointVenture, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2Spammer? Im not a Huffington post poster.
- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -4/+2Out of context ? Speaking about race and his disdain for those that did not fit his ideal is not out of context. JointVenture quoted ... Quoted ... Obama. : ) Egregious ? riiiight. This particular memoir went far beyond his teenage years - through college and out into the adult world as an organizer in Chicago. Not a childs recollection.
- WasabiBomb, on 03/20/2008, -2/+7Those are the most racially controversial remarks you can find? Seriously?
- pakakapa, on 03/20/2008, -2/+3"mabey he can be my vice president"
How's that racist? She'd have said the same about anyone else.- Nth3nSum, on 03/21/2008, -3/+3Apparently there are those who think that Hillary losing to Obama by ~150 delegates and implying that Obama could take the "back seat" anyway is rascist. It's more likely she's stubbornly refusing to admit that what Bill promised her isn't coming true. She's gonna crack when she loses, mark my words she's gonna go off and be bitter. Poor Bill is gonna have to live with this defeated, scorned woman. Haha, he'll get what's coming to him.
- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -3/+3losing by 150 does not a mandate make : ) They must unite or the dems lose. Hillary offered the way ... so far Obama has refused in favor of his own selfish quest for the presidency.
- hippieslaugh, on 03/22/2008, -2/+2Actually, I think you have that backwards. Obama is still winning, and has been for some time, despite the lack of a "mandate"
- runCMD, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2You are right hippie - You can win the nomination without a mandate. But you won't win the presidency - but hey, at least you get the nomination. I don't think that's good enough. I hope for better from both dem candidates. So far, only Hillary has offered that olive branch. If Obama was truly the man of unity - he would have accepted that and in turn made the same commitment. Instead we get his real motivation. It's him or nuttin.
- hippieslaugh, on 03/22/2008, -1/+2Right now the democratic party is split. Neither Hillary nor Obama will receive a "mandate."
I am interested in this olive branch you think that Hillary Clinton has extended. Can you give me more information on that? I have seen no evidence of a peace offering. - valimar77, on 03/25/2008, -0/+2runCMD you seem like a rational person capable of expressing yourself. A far cry from many Obama haters here. I concede to you that Clinton has indeed offered Obama a place as her vice president. But you and I know that it is only a ruse. There is no way she would ever expect him to accept, especially when he is the front runner. It's easy to offer such positions under those circumstances much the same as if you were offering a vegan a juicy steak. it's polite but you know that your steak is quite safe from the vegan's acceptance.
However such political techniques does not bar the fact that she is staying in the race at the cost of the democratic party. Her continual and divisive barbs are only giving the Republicans more fuel for their fire. Your spin on that topic not withstanding, it is Senator Clinton who seeks the presidency at any cost. Being a fighter is laudable but only when the cause you fight for is just. If one person's happiness comes at the price of an entire nation than no court in the whole of America would validate that claim. Clearly the Clinton camp will stop at nothing to ensure their seat of power. When a fighter becomes lost in their own murky needs and greed than that fighter becomes nothing more than a bully.
Obama is not perfect , he is not sacrosanct but he does want to do what is right for the nation, not what is right for himself.
If you disagree with my opinion then that is your prerogative. I adjure you however to seek clarity in this matter before you end up with illusions instead of solutions.
- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -3/+3losing by 150 does not a mandate make : ) They must unite or the dems lose. Hillary offered the way ... so far Obama has refused in favor of his own selfish quest for the presidency.
- Nth3nSum, on 03/21/2008, -3/+3Apparently there are those who think that Hillary losing to Obama by ~150 delegates and implying that Obama could take the "back seat" anyway is rascist. It's more likely she's stubbornly refusing to admit that what Bill promised her isn't coming true. She's gonna crack when she loses, mark my words she's gonna go off and be bitter. Poor Bill is gonna have to live with this defeated, scorned woman. Haha, he'll get what's coming to him.
- JointVenture, on 03/20/2008, -7/+6Ooops , I think you ***** up. Never?
- kfed2, on 03/20/2008, -7/+1Is Obama a racist: http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_My_grandmo ...
Maybe Obama was lying about his grandma, and is not racist after all:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Washington_Post_ ...- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -5/+2Why do you think Obama chose to preface the introduction of his grandmother story with the word 'white' These are my black friends, this is my white grandmother, these are my jewish classmates ... c'mon. Stop dividing by color.
- stretch611, on 03/21/2008, -2/+2Maybe because people did not know his grandmother was white. Or maybe to identify which grandmother. Just because someone identifies another person by race does not mean that they divide people into racial groups. When you treat people differently because of their race is when you have a problem.
- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -4/+1: ) - and who else would he have been talking about ? Look up at the blue sky, down at the green grass. This is my white grandmother. It was a poor choice of words IMHO - but then, I'm not a fan.
- stretch611, on 03/21/2008, -2/+2Maybe because people did not know his grandmother was white. Or maybe to identify which grandmother. Just because someone identifies another person by race does not mean that they divide people into racial groups. When you treat people differently because of their race is when you have a problem.
- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -5/+2Why do you think Obama chose to preface the introduction of his grandmother story with the word 'white' These are my black friends, this is my white grandmother, these are my jewish classmates ... c'mon. Stop dividing by color.
- YojimboJango, on 03/20/2008, -5/+12Really no one's calling the headline into question?
The first two quotes were:
HUCKABEE: Not defending his statements.
HUCKABEE: I mean, those were outrageous statements, and nobody can defend the content of them.
His third quote was him saying that many in the older black generation were mistreated and when they get riled up they say things in the heat of the moment. He's urging people to see his statements in their correct context. Then the headline goes and proclaims MIKE HUCKABEE Defends Obama, & Rev. Wright! Didn't he just say that he wasn't defending Wright? Twice?
I think it's more than a little ironic that he was trying to make was that we have to see things in context.- jdigg06, on 03/20/2008, -1/+2well said. people need to read the article and not just jump on the bandwagon.
- pingwax, on 03/20/2008, -1/+8Some of Wright's comments were outrageous and Huckabee wasn't defending those comments. Huckabee was defending Wright when he said that a person might say something in the heat of passion that they might not have said had they really thought about it first.
Huckabee didn't defend specific specific inflammatory statements made by Wright; he did defend the man for being an imperfect person. - jarrodandlaura, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3"Didn't he just say that he wasn't defending Wright? Twice?"
No. He said that he wasn't defending Wright's *comments*, twice... and then he went on to defend the man by reminding (or informing) Joe that (1) Pastors often get caught up in the moment, and (2) you gotta cut a little slack for people like Wright and others, who for years have been on the receiving end of unfair treatment.
- MentalHazard, on 03/20/2008, -0/+0As it turns out people think that anybody who doesn't have the same ideas as they do is evil, like what Ryalnos says except more generally applicable.
- NelsonR, on 03/20/2008, -4/+2Whether you are for Hillary or Obama having Iraqi John would be much worse. Eight more years of Bush/Iraqi John is unfathomable. If he is elected though many laughs ahead so maybe it wouldn't be all bad for the humor of it all. Lieberman could be our supreme foreign adviser and send our troops to the Israeli front. Now that's the type of leadership of late I'm used to. Maybe even Bush could protect the Gaza border with his two daughters who also never served in time of conflict. But alas how can we put in harms way our upper crust?
- JointVenture, on 03/20/2008, -6/+2Apples and Oranges, nothing to see here.
Nice try though! - teddtech, on 03/20/2008, -18/+18Wow, such hypocrites... You guys were just raking Hillary over the coals for the comments made by Ferraro as if Hillary said them herself. Now the same thing happens to Obama, but this time its different. Incredible, just incredible. Diggers underwhelm me.
Story Dugg so people can see how hypocritical Obama supporters are...- stonewaljacksn, on 03/20/2008, -13/+5WELL DONE!! Let the Obamatards hypocrisy be shown now so it doesnt bite the Dems in the ass against McCain.
- LogitechG15, on 03/20/2008, -6/+5Welcome to Digg, where herd mentality runs rampant. Whatever happened to Ron Paul? I guess the herd left him after they realized he had no chance.
- Nth3nSum, on 03/21/2008, -3/+4Shh, or you'll bring them back in this forum too.
- LogitechG15, on 03/20/2008, -6/+5Welcome to Digg, where herd mentality runs rampant. Whatever happened to Ron Paul? I guess the herd left him after they realized he had no chance.
- runCMD, on 03/21/2008, -8/+2Well - enjoy it whilte you can - My one digg vote will keep it afloat until they swarm in tonight to condemn. : ) my thoughts exactly.
- Berkana, on 03/21/2008, -4/+9Hillary didn't distance herself from the statements the way Obama did; Hillary's remarks showed that she seemed to tolerate the remarks for their usefulness against her opponent.
- ZenMojo, on 03/21/2008, -6/+6Two completely different things. Hillary was attacked for not condemning the statements. Obama condemned Reverend Wright's statements LAST YEAR.
- stretch611, on 03/21/2008, -3/+6In addition to what Berkana said, Ferraro was also major part of Hillary's campaign.
- sulthernao, on 03/21/2008, -4/+6Wright was not speaking as a Obama supporter, but as a Preacher. Ferraro was talking as a official member of the Clinton campaign, which by itself would be ok. The problem is that Hillary did not act on "denouncing and rejecting" her statements. Obama, by the way, has consistently denounced the inflammatory comments made by Wright.
- stockjones, on 03/21/2008, -2/+3Actually teddtech has a good point about a lot of Digg. Its like herd mentality sometimes.
For example, I remember when every one was praising Ron Paul like it was an internet Religion. If I asked someone, "When if Ron Paul doesn't make it", they'd say: Well then Im voting for Barrack Obama. How can you go from voting for a very Libertarian almost isolationist candidate (Paul) to a very Liberal candidate (Obama)? That tells me most of you just vote based on popular perception and nothing more. Also I guess its just hip to bash on HIllary Clinton.
- stonewaljacksn, on 03/20/2008, -13/+5WELL DONE!! Let the Obamatards hypocrisy be shown now so it doesnt bite the Dems in the ass against McCain.
- virtualmyles, on 03/20/2008, -4/+1John McCain is only a "naturalized" citizen.
http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/legal-natura ...- Rippleeffect, on 03/20/2008, -0/+1no one really seems to care much.
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