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Mac OSX 10.5.4 Realeased!!

macrumors.com — Apple has released Mac OS X 10.5.4 via the Mac OS X Software Update:The 10.5.4 Update is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Leopard and includes general operating system fixes that enhance the stability, compatibility and security of your Mac. For detailed information on this update, plea...

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  • Noriv, on 06/30/2008, -10/+102That was quick!
    • simplenation, on 06/30/2008, -15/+16and small (only 59 mb)
    • EdwardBella, on 06/30/2008, -13/+144That's what she said.
      • zirkle2007, on 06/30/2008, -35/+2I see what you did there.
      • simplenation, on 06/30/2008, -8/+69oh so you have a female friend that owns a mac too? cool
      • kaplanfx, on 07/01/2008, -14/+4@simplenation: no need to make up "female friends" to try and impress us. We too are diggers.
      • Giga, on 07/01/2008, -4/+10God these memes get annoying...
    • cliffr39, on 07/01/2008, -3/+1also a security update 004 today
    • diggsahole, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2I heard they had a major issue with the Adobe software and 10.5.3 where users could not save their files...I understand why they released 10.5.4 so quickly...
      • alexp2ad, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I never had any issue saving in Photoshop. :/
    • ColinZeal, on 07/01/2008, -11/+2I will single handily bury everyone who seems to be pro mac in this topic. GOD SPEED!
    • romanboy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1yeah, they couldn't save CS3 files to server file shares... it was a nightmare!
  • fiveohbaby, on 06/30/2008, -69/+4Digg this one:
    http://digg.com/apple/Mac_OS_X_10_5_4_Update_is_Fi ...
    Was the first to tell digg of the Mac OS X 10.5.4

    Be fair
  • fluidfoundation, on 06/30/2008, -21/+48you know, based on past experience, I'm gonna wait a few weeks. Don't need my wifi or external audio device problems I had before.
    • alliekins619, on 06/30/2008, -35/+16But I thought everything on a Mac "just works".
      • werries, on 07/01/2008, -14/+15oh you didn't get the memo?
        the motto is now "it just works...eventually!"
      • mateo60, on 07/01/2008, -5/+33I switched 3 years ago, and I've never had to reformat, never had a virus or spyware, and it runs as well as it did the day I bought it. For me, it just works. I can waste my workday on Digg without thinking about it. ; )
      • KillPenguin, on 07/01/2008, -5/+4Was it worth the extra $300+ dollars?

        Go ahead, bury me. It'll still be true.
      • TheSillyOne60, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3Yes.
      • elveis, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3Can't anyone come up with something original to say? There is always one Windoze fanboi in every single story about Macs that says "I thought Mac 'just works'." It's getting very old. At least think of something funny.

        For the record, I echo mateo60's comments. Except I've been on a Mac for over 10 years.
      • Lambrakis, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1I'll take a Mac over a Windows POS any day. But that doesn't mean Apple stuff is 100% good. And the reason people are bitching today? Because they've seen better. Because Apple quality used to mean something. Because once upon a time Apple didn't treat their customers like *****.
    • Nitesmoke, on 06/30/2008, -25/+11what happened to "it just works"?
      • ColinZeal, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3Weird, I´ve heard that too...
        :-P
      • notrub225, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1buried for being an obscure joke
      • GumdoMike, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3?> echo "it just works"
        it just works

        ?>
    • bathyscaaf, on 07/01/2008, -4/+24I have those bugs now -- when everyone was having problems with 10.5.2 and audio, I was fine. When I installed 10.5.3 I now have to turn airport off when using my DAW + firewire audio card.
      Very annoying.
      • fluidfoundation, on 07/01/2008, -1/+15Why dig him down? These are legit problems, and hopefully addressed on this patch.
      • blackjack75, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3Does running this command fix your slowness problem?
        sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0

        It did for me (running a first gen mbpro with an USR8054 wifi base station).
      • Lambrakis, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1I still can't use audio on 10.5.4. Cracks the speakers all the time. Not when playing audio - just when running ordinary software (from Apple). And this is a brand new box made for Leopard. Apple are teh suck.
    • bluemath, on 07/01/2008, -12/+2whiners
    • mpeters13, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Amen. I JUST got my Logitech Mic back in 10.5.3 after they took it away in 10.5.2. I think I'll wait for others to test the waters. :P
    • kjartan, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1yep...should have waited. the headphone output on my macbook is going bananas. sounds like a low-end cut off around 500hz, and a huge boost around 2-5khz with a bunch of digital noise.
      EDIT - i restarted a few times and it seems to be ok *for now*.
    • jmp478, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2My Xbox 360 camera doesn't work with leopard since the update :(
      • jmp478, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3Nevermind. I resetted my PRAM and it fixed everything.

        And macs do "just work" like they say
    • smoger, on 07/01/2008, -7/+1but wait... macs "just work"... right? that's what the commercial said.
      • fluidfoundation, on 07/01/2008, -0/+6I think the commercial also says read all the other comments, because you look like an ass.
  • xoineg, on 06/30/2008, -20/+6now all i need is iPhone software 2.0 is June 30th.....Wasn't it supposed to come out at the end of june?
  • wwwluckyro, on 06/30/2008, -3/+25I was expecting this update to have changed all .Mac references to MobileMe. I wonder how will Apple do this later in July. A small update maybe?
    • modusop, on 06/30/2008, -1/+6It's probably similar to when iTunes added ringtones - we all d/led the update, and it got "turned on" a week later - just appeared without warning. When mobileme launches, it'll probably just automagically change.
      • Protoss, on 07/01/2008, -3/+9Something probably along the lines of:
        if(date=>July 11th) { .mac=mobileme }
        :P
      • mrsteveman1, on 07/01/2008, -1/+9You can test that pretty easy.....
      • celebi23, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Nah, there's no direct references to MobileMe anywhere in this update. Probably going to be a separate update before we hit July 11th
      • mrsteveman1, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Yea, its likely to just be a "mobileme" support package of some kind.
    • Lambrakis, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2They can do that online.
  • funnyboy88, on 06/30/2008, -20/+151RIP 10.5.3

    The end of an era. *sniff*
    • ShootTheCore, on 06/30/2008, -4/+70We hardly knew ye...
    • lecturethis, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2one for my homie.....*pours caffeinated bourbon*
  • joeycerone, on 06/30/2008, -10/+135What's new in this version:

    General
    Includes recent Apple security updates.
    Resolves an issue with saving and reopening Adobe Creative Suite 3 files on a remote server.
    Includes additional RAW image support for several cameras.
    Addresses an issue that may result in a partially installed X11 application.
    Improves L2TP VPN client reliability.

    AirPort
    Addresses AirPort reliability issues with 5GHz networks.
    Addresses AirPort issues that may result in slower performance in Logic Studio or MainStage.

    iCal
    Improves overall iCal reliability for meeting requests, cancellation notices, delegation, and syncing with iPhone.
    Resolves an issue that prevents deleting an iCal event without notifying the creator.
    Addresses an issue in which events in all calendars affect availability. A checkbox now enables information-only calendars to be transparent from free/busy lookups.
    Resolves a UI issue preventing delegated calendars from showing up as a separate window.
    Addresses an issue with copying and pasting attendees from one event to another.
    Resolves an issue in which iCal may not delete events after a specified time interval, even when set to do so in iCal preferences.
    Addresses an issue in which To Dos cannot be marked private.

    Safari
    Addresses a potential performance issue when loading secure web pages.
    Resolves issues that may be encountered when accessing secure web pages with client certificates that reside on a smart card.

    Spaces and Exposé
    Addresses an issue in which switching from a space with a Finder window keeps the Finder as the active application instead of the application residing in the destination space.
    Fixes an issue in which dragging an application from the list of application assignments in Spaces System Preferences does not assign the application to the desired space.
    Resolves an Exposé issue that may result in only a subset of windows being shown.
    • init100, on 06/30/2008, -0/+22"Addresses an issue in which switching from a space with a Finder window keeps the Finder as the active application instead of the application residing in the destination space."

      This was by far the most irritating bug in 10.5.3. I actually even took the time to report it to Apple. Nice to see that it's fixed.
      • kaplanfx, on 07/01/2008, -22/+3whoa, you actually use spaces?
      • freqk, on 07/01/2008, -1/+10@kaplanfx
        whoa, you don't?
        (I personally got used to multiple desktops in my linux days.)
      • StuTheMeatMan, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1What exactly was the problem? I'm not sure what it was but I want to know.
      • init100, on 07/01/2008, -0/+5@kaplanfx

        Yes, I use Spaces. I previously used Linux on my laptop at work, but when I got a new job six months ago, their standard development platform was Macs. And since I've been using Linux since 1999, I'm severely addicted to multiple desktops, and thus, Spaces are not optional for me, they are mandatory. And as a result, bugs in Spaces irritate me a lot.

        @StuTheMeatMan

        The problem was that when you left a space where Finder was in the foreground, Finder stayed in the foreground in the new space, even if I left it with another application in the foreground. Thus, when switching to such a space, you always had to click in the application window before trying to type into it, as the input would otherwise be lost.

        When switching between spaces with normal applications (i.e. not Finder) in the foreground, everything worked as expected, i.e. the application that had focus when you left the space got focus when you returned to it.
    • Schwab, on 07/01/2008, -6/+3Yeah that, and destroying all my serials.
    • confoundedjoe, on 07/01/2008, -11/+2how does an update that adds nothing new and only fixes problems yield a top ten posting? you would never see this with anything else.

      OMG! Apple fixed some ***** they messed up on before!
      • newbill123, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4The problems fixed include security issues; applying stable security patches quickly is a good idea on any OS.
      • SupaNeo, on 07/01/2008, -4/+2He does have a point. The update is pretty much security patches and bug fixes. In other words, Apple merely fixed problems with OSX. Although this is a great thing for any OS vendor to do, it's hard Digg Top Ten worthy.

        Think of it this way, if Microsoft released 30 security updates and bug fixes for Windows Vista, would Microsoft be praised for this? Would they be ridiculed because there was such a large amount of bugs and holes in Vista? Would it even be a Digg news article?

        Oh well, food for thought.
      • sleepwalkers, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4@SupaNeo: Have you seen what else is in the Digg top ten? It doesn't take much to be worthy of it.
      • coldfusion1970, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Its important for a lot of people who run Mac OS X.
        I'm sure Vista SP1 made the front page ...
      • confoundedjoe, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1service packs are a little bigger of a deal than a bi-monthly security update...
    • Nickdotnet, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3should have included:

      Blackberry:
      Causes your blackberry device to no longer communicate with sync services rendering the device a useless waste of money.
    • Fairly, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Yeah and security-wise they just ignore all the vulns they know about. Nobody wants to hack them. WTG, Apple.
  • joeconway, on 06/30/2008, -14/+6nothing major then, sigh.
  • vault, on 06/30/2008, -7/+155released
  • ELLIS1128, on 06/30/2008, -16/+76This really isn't big news at all, these come every other month.
    • Phatt138, on 07/01/2008, -1/+9This one solves an issue involving Creative Suite 3 that has put many creative users (and us IT folks who keep them going) in danger of corrupted files. I know I'm practically giddy over this.
      • parallax7d, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2i read there were MANY issues with this issue, this patch may or may not fix all of them. CS3 will have bugs caused by Mac OS for a while.
    • sarchosis, on 07/01/2008, -7/+12Except they don't.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os_x_leopard#Version_ ...
      • confoundedjoe, on 07/01/2008, -0/+9lets do math!!!!

        10.5 in Oct 07
        10.5.4 in June 08
        8 months
        4 updates=
        one ever 2 months...
      • chiefs10, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1probably just blindly searched for a wiki article and pasted it without reading....or he didn't carry the one
    • fatb0y42, on 07/01/2008, -3/+2remember.. we're on digg
    • fcukthisgame, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1xkcd comes out more than once a week and diggers seem to think that's big news...
  • zirkle2007, on 06/30/2008, -19/+12Safari seems snappier.
    • aussieNickuss, on 06/30/2008, -10/+8I think that's your imagination.
      • COBRAcg, on 07/01/2008, -2/+6no one of the updates was supposed to make safari faster surfing secure web pages
  • trollick, on 06/30/2008, -43/+13I'll stick with OS X 10.5.3. OS X 10.5.4 is such a resource hog and it is nothing more than OS X 10.5.3 plus eye candy. There is no reason to switch.
    • Daniel591992, on 06/30/2008, -3/+7Sarcasm?
    • nightowl313, on 06/30/2008, -3/+11"Mom! Can I PLZ feed the trolls? Please?"

      "Not until you've eaten your veggies."

    • PainToad, on 06/30/2008, -3/+5Umm wtf!! There's no new 'eye candy'
    • soopafly, on 06/30/2008, -2/+6huh?
    • wafla, on 07/01/2008, -3/+8Not trolling... it's art. Pure art.
    • 4LeggedtriPod, on 07/01/2008, -7/+4It's not a new OS you moron. It's an update for the current one.
    • notrub225, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1Dude, just get the skin for OS9 to make it look like OS10. You can find it on bittorrent!
  • kenplaysviola, on 06/30/2008, -9/+3Every time a new update comes out (10.5.x), I have to remove my Mac from Active Directory, and then rejoin Active Directory. Does anyone else have this problem?
    • johndavidjack, on 07/01/2008, -3/+2You didn't really lay out the problem at all. It could be any number of things. With all of Active Directories' SIDs, IDs, etc, I am betting maybe there is a change with some of your machine's LDAP attributes, etc. Since M$ doesn't like to follow the RFC standards for kerberos and ldap, you never know what's going on underneath the hood.

      You'd probably have to take a number of packet captures and read the logs on the AD DC and your mac to really diagnose the actual problem.

      I am not a mac guy, so I really don't know what to tell you. Use google I guess...
      • kenplaysviola, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2That's the problem - I don't know what the problem is. Was wondering if someone else knew. I did read on some forums that other people were experiencing this, but I haven't found the real underlying problem. It's not a big deal since it's only one machine. Now imagine if I was administering 100+ Mac's... ouch!
  • batmanz, on 06/30/2008, -31/+10Yaaaaaay! Who cares!??!??
    • bjornski, on 07/01/2008, -6/+5Mac users?

      I don't use one, but I still read them anyway, because ALL technology interests me.
    • usingpond, on 07/01/2008, -3/+1How did you get here then? Accidental mouse click? Kill yourself.
  • BlackJackJester, on 06/30/2008, -35/+18Um, congratulations? I can't believe there is this cocksucking fest over an OS patch.
    • phibit, on 07/01/2008, -8/+8It's what they do best. OMG 10.5.4.01 just came out ... Okay now grab each other's dicks!
    • usingpond, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2Where is the cocksucking? People are discussing it; if anything most people are bitching. Either way, why do you give a *****.
  • xiphy, on 06/30/2008, -14/+2booooooooooooooooodsooo sdlhk!
  • seldon452, on 06/30/2008, -41/+85Even though I know a lot of you don't care,

    Today is my birthday and I for a present I got a new MacBook. I also have a PC for gaming but I am really happy with my mac! This patch will only make it better!
    • modusop, on 06/30/2008, -3/+18You'll learn to apply the updates with nervous excitement - excitement for fixes and changes, nervousness for what may not work any longer...
      • KyleGoetz, on 07/01/2008, -2/+2Ya know, I've had my MBP for a year now, and no update has done anything to my system. Granted, I'm running Tiger, but still...what are these problems with updates people speak of?
      • alexp2ad, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3I know one guy who's been screwed over by updates, but I've personally never had any problems on desktop or laptop.
    • VyRuZ, on 06/30/2008, -1/+65Happy birthday.

      Digg's a tough crowd. :)
    • wafla, on 07/01/2008, -6/+52Some of us are immortal, and never have birthdays or get presents.
      You insensitive clod.
      • ShellShock11, on 07/01/2008, -1/+10You would still have a birthday if you were immortal *****.
      • KyleGoetz, on 07/01/2008, -0/+11Being immortal means you have no DEATH date. You'd still have a date of BIRTH.
    • delhokie, on 07/01/2008, -3/+9Happy Birthday and welcome to the community! With a new mac, the update will probably be fine... I got my first imac 18 months ago and have applied each update and never had a problem. (knock on wood)
      • sherbertbones, on 07/01/2008, -6/+9HAHAHAHA community, sweet jesus...it's a computer for Christ's sake.
      • Buzzpatrol, on 07/01/2008, -2/+1I for one hope that you and your iMac live happily ever after. Remember, cover your dong what you ***** that USB dong!
    • stacyelizabeth, on 07/01/2008, -0/+9Happy Birthday. :3

      I use my PC for gaming, and I use my MacBook for school, I like it.
    • X9001, on 07/01/2008, -0/+21You know what I got for my birthday?
      ...
      ...
      ...
      ...
      ...
      ...
      Yelled at
    • sfacets, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2Happy birthday, and congratulations!
    • birdly, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2Sheeze, nice present.......Happy birthday, no doubt!
    • mrBitch, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2@wafla RE : "Some of us are immortal, and never have birthdays or get presents. You insensitive clod."

      Actually, as a fellow immortal, I have learned that it's important to celebrate the birthdays of our less fortunate, shorter life-span, fellow humans.
      (and, WTF? why don't you have birthdays? I do... )

      Any way, Happy Birthday!
    • electroandy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1happy birthday!
    • tama00, on 07/01/2008, -3/+1everyone who dugg this guy down is just jealous cause his family can afford to get him a mac and your family couldnt afford to get you one. Even if you wanted one, you still couldnt afford it.


    • Buzzpatrol, on 07/01/2008, -4/+1Happy TROLL Birthday, do you get sex from your mom when you reach the Digg.com frontpage?
    • 1nhuman, on 07/01/2008, -0/+5Damn, today is my birthday too. But I didn't get any presents.

      Still I'm typing this on my one month old Macbook Pro which I bought myself. Who needs birthdays or love or friendship or any of that sissy crap.

      :(
    • smoger, on 07/01/2008, -2/+1happy birthday.. i hope you're as happy with that macbook a year from now. i know i wasn't after a year.(and still not)
  • scy1192, on 06/30/2008, -13/+4yay?
  • Warehouse3000, on 06/30/2008, -13/+8i really wish this update had some exciting changes...
  • dagamer34, on 06/30/2008, -9/+3Still waiting for the combo update. And no new mobileMe icons either. I guess they are on a time bomb or something? Or an installer will need to be run in OS X.
  • PainToad, on 06/30/2008, -15/+6Dam still working on getting 10.5.3 fully working on my Dell hackBook :P
    • smmakira, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2When you do get 10.5.3 working, you can just use software updater on hackintosh with vanilla kernel to update to 10.5.4. Check insanelymac.com if you don't believe me.
      • PainToad, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3But I'm not using vanilla kernel, need speedstep :)
      • Eric8p, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3just buy a mac... they're better than dells :P
      • infernal6, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2that'd take all the fun out of it!! (I say that while hypocritical typing this message on my beautiful little macbook :))
  • OGla, on 06/30/2008, -9/+2It's delicious!
  • skeletorcares, on 06/30/2008, -13/+27consider a period instead of '!!'
  • NathanCH, on 06/30/2008, -11/+6This update is critical for MobileMe.
  • PhogHawk, on 06/30/2008, -8/+25But does it fix Starcraft?
    • GRAVEWiSH, on 07/01/2008, -8/+2i have no problems with starcraft and 10.5.3
    • fumblr, on 07/01/2008, -7/+1You still play Starcraft? You know they do make other games for the Mac right? Lol.
      • hartley, on 07/01/2008, -1/+6I still play Mario 1-3. Does that mean I need to get a Wii to play Mario Galaxy?
        Good games are good games, and as far as PC RTS games go, StarCraft is the best there ever has been so far.
      • sarchosis, on 07/01/2008, -0/+5You clearly don't play Starcraft.
      • jman583, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2I just played Starcraft 30 minuets ago because it kicks ass (and I played it on my Vista machine).
    • orph3us, on 07/01/2008, -0/+5what was not working for you? It worked fine for me on 10.5.2
    • Louis11, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3No, but it will blend.
    • zonk3r, on 07/01/2008, -0/+8Apparently (from MacNN) the 256 color mode needed to play Starcraft is deprecated on the drivers for the 8800 and 8600 video cards. Unless a new version of is released that runs in "thousands of colors" mode or Apple decides to revert the deprecation it will still be broken. I'd complain to both parties by posting bug reports and see who does what first.
      • orph3us, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1you could always start in safe mode. If I'm not mistaken that loads a vesa driver. That or do what everyone below suggests... wine/virtual machine....
    • blackjack75, on 07/01/2008, -2/+2Given the requirements for stracraft you could easily run it in VMWare on a Win2k virtual machine.
      • freqk, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2thought about it, not worth havng a whole windows virtual environment just for starcraft.
        hmmm, crossover games just occured to me.
      • vagarach, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Even the most simple of 2D games results in 100% cpu usage in parallels, so I hope VMWare is better in this regard. Word runs fine, just like any other app, but try a game, and I end up with the typical temps at full throttle.

        Even Worms 2 (which ran well on some of the very first pentiums ever released) abuses a dual core 2.2Ghz cpu. Pathetic, regardless of the virtualisation used.
      • SohailKhanifar, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I was able to run two different instances of Diablo 2 a couple months ago no problem. (One on VMware, one on regular os x)
    • auricomnet, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3GOD DAM IT ARE SERIOUS??!?!?! THIS IS FREAKING RIDICULOUS I bet Blizzard isn't pushing apple as much to allow tension to build up for SC2.
    • ColinZeal, on 07/01/2008, -5/+1Starcraft doesn´t work on a MAC after 10 years?
      • KMartSheriff, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Media Access Control address?
      • usingpond, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1You can't read after 10 years?

        It doesn't work on certain nVidia cards because they don't support 256 color mode. Kill yourself.
    • drakethegreat, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Well the campaign editor still requires Classic to even run and it doesn't even load right for me :(
  • 0ldmankdude, on 06/30/2008, -13/+5this is not news...
    • Me1000, on 07/01/2008, -2/+3This qualifies more as news than xkcd does.
  • killbert24, on 06/30/2008, -18/+20Wow it was realeased. I love when things are realeased to the public.
    By the way what does realeased mean?
    • davepascoe, on 07/01/2008, -4/+6it's a perfectly cromulent word for when something simultaneously "realises its potential" and is "released to the public"
    • BossKey, on 07/01/2008, -0/+8It's the opposite of fakeased (vaporware).
    • Lambrakis, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1It means it's been aleased again.
  • waterdrop, on 06/30/2008, -18/+1Damn, already? I still haven't even upgraded my Hack Pro to 10.5.3 yet. Oh well, 10.5.2 runs amazingly smooth on my Hackintosh. It's faster then any real Mac out there.
    • stevenyenzer, on 07/01/2008, -6/+2Awesome!
    • colincornaby, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4Probably not as fast as my real Mac Pro, unless you have magic fairy dust that you sprinkled on your computer that makes your processor that's identical to the ones real Macs use go faster.
  • edwardtls, on 07/01/2008, -8/+6this still did not fix the D2 and Starcraft issue.. :
    http://digg.com/gaming_news/StarCraft_and_Diablo_2 ...

    ed
  • jkr801, on 07/01/2008, -13/+11it didnt fix diablo 2 so ***** 10.5.4
  • acatzr800, on 07/01/2008, -18/+39Service Pack 4
  • speedyrev, on 07/01/2008, -10/+3OSX users get it automatically, all others don't care.
    • Me1000, on 07/01/2008, -4/+1not if you have automatic updates turned off!
  • Dermah, on 07/01/2008, -11/+13The news in this article does not warrent the amount of exclamation marks it has in the title.
    • Lambrakis, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Fanboys suck on exclamation marks and other pointy objects.
  • Kanaka, on 07/01/2008, -9/+44...and Airport still drops connections...yay!
    • Me1000, on 07/01/2008, -2/+9new firmware for your extreme was released too
    • AvidPreatorian, on 07/01/2008, -3/+5ive had absolutely no problems with airport. always been fast and on 24/7. u must have lots of signals disrupting it, try the feature which boosts the signal. it works for my friends.
      • johnpaul191, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3mine works 100%..... i know 2 people using them with no problems either. maybe you have something interfering with the signal?
    • ted510, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2It actually fixed my Airport connection!
  • marcushe, on 07/01/2008, -6/+18My G5 Airport still dropping every hour or so...
    • delhokie, on 07/01/2008, -4/+2Using WPA security? I've always had problems unless using WEP...
      • EBorg, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I switched from WPA/TKIP to WPA/AES and my dropping problems went away.
  • cyberpunkdreams, on 07/01/2008, -32/+5"enhance the stability... and security of your Mac"

    WTF? I thought Macs were meant to be 100% stable and secure anyway? :p
    • Me1000, on 07/01/2008, -2/+17please at least try to be original...
    • cyberpunkdreams, on 07/01/2008, -7/+1I do apologise, 'twas a momentary lapse.
  • XSVfan, on 07/01/2008, -31/+10Wait I thought Macs just worked?
  • TGMD, on 07/01/2008, -22/+9How the ***** is this news? It's a ***** security update?
  • Ansem, on 07/01/2008, -16/+9And Diablo and Starcraft still don't work...
  • Ansem, on 07/01/2008, -19/+5And Diablo and Starcraft still don't work...
  • robzthird, on 07/01/2008, -18/+39Idiots, we get the joke, Macs aren't as stable as they're advertised to be. You're not funny or original.
    • Amiga501, on 07/01/2008, -25/+6"You're not funny or original."

      A situation you're intimately familiar with.
    • sherbertbones, on 07/01/2008, -12/+5They just don't work
      • robzthird, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3They do, mostly. But the statements "It Just Works" are incorrect.
    • unitedatheism, on 07/01/2008, -3/+2So why do you keep saying this?
  • Peintros, on 07/01/2008, -2/+9That was quick!!! Installation went well and my airport issue seems to be resolved :)
  • micklerlop, on 07/01/2008, -5/+7Fixed nothing for me .... *sigh*
    • johnpaul191, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1then it could be patching security holes..... it does *something* or Apple wouldn't waste time with it. It also may be fixing drivers for apps/hardware you don't use. unfortunately Apple has gotten incredibly vague about what these updates do.

  • robzthird, on 07/01/2008, -6/+5Any problems with anybody's install yet? Answers appreciated.
    • boogieman77, on 07/01/2008, -2/+2Pro apps seem a little snappier. Final Cut ... Adobe stuff like that.
    • andreaaas, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1well, iTunes says my jailbroken 1.1.4 iPhone has to be restored. It happened after the update, although iTunes is not even supposed to be affected. Does anyone know how I go about and do that? Do I need to do the ziPhone thing again? :(
      • boogieman77, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Is it a 8 or 16 gig? If so just do it and jailbreak it again if it is a 32 sorry man I cannot even get mine jailbroken again.
      • andreaaas, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1it's a 16 gb. does 32 gb even exist?
      • boogieman77, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1My mistake. Sorry about that. Read it too fast while trying too do to many things at once.
      • notrub225, on 07/01/2008, -0/+0you probably corrupted the registry
  • mitch37, on 07/01/2008, -13/+8Seriously, its just a bug fix.

    I dont care..
  • Rhendal, on 07/01/2008, -8/+9I still can't play Starcraft or Diablo II. I guess nostalgia will have to stay on my XP machine...
    • clockdist, on 07/01/2008, -3/+6Mac *is* an XP machine.
      • kentifer, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1Maybe he's awaiting an update for an older mac.
      • Rhendal, on 07/01/2008, -3/+2I shouldn't have to load XP on a macbook when I have a PC with it already on it, especially just to play some legacy games that should run on the newer system anyway.
    • BIGBEN363, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1just download the carbon installer from Blizzard's website. Starcraft works for me just fine.
      • Rhendal, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Doesn't work. Looking around on the internet, in the 10.5.3 update, they updated the drivers for the new Macbooks which took away 256 colors as an option for the displays; leaving only millions of colors as an option. Since Diablo II and Starcraft only run in 256 colors, you cannot run the games without them immediately crashing. According to Blizzard there's no workaround other than installing Windows XP on the system; but I didn't buy a Mac to run XP on it since I deal with that every day at work and have a PC that runs XP at home.
  • metalpres, on 07/01/2008, -16/+70I dont use windows or os x, so maybe someone can enlighten me why everytime Apple releases an update for os x that includes security patches and stability updates everyone says "YAY!!! OMG A NEW VERSION!!" but everytime microsoft does incremental updates like their "patch tuesdays" its more like "here we go again.... windows sucks, look at all the bugs they had to fix" Looks an awful lot like apple is doing the exact same thing. And for any non-linux users, linux has tons and tons of updates all the time too and very few complain about that either.
    • ThaDRD, on 07/01/2008, -6/+21I wish I could digg you 50 times as I was thinking the same thing.
    • rezist, on 07/01/2008, -12/+5because bsd is superior overall than vista... it's simple, windows is a OS that should be overhauled completely. By the way bsd is also superior to linux... not too hard to research and find the proof.
      • felderado, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1I think that's a matter of opinion. BSD might be superior in some areas, but not in all.
      • dixta, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2As a server OS or workstation or firewall, FreeBSD *rocks*.

        As a web/media desktop, it sucks IMHO.

        Go for an OS X desktop and BSD server/remote workstation. Unbeatable :-)
      • unitedatheism, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Your opinion is totally based on what you think, not on what you know...
        Like another zillion internet kids which think that just because nobody uses it, it's underground, and so it's cooler, superior and so on..
        Well, let's face it, I'm sorry to call you names, but you're an idiot.
        Not trying to offend you, but quit being like this.
      • rezist, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1united atheism...bsd isn't "underground" it is os x. also if you all can't be bothered to check any benchmarks between os x (bsd) and windows and linux to see WTF I'm referring to than why respond?
    • xero9, on 07/01/2008, -10/+2Wow, you and ThaDRD must be new to the interwebs. This question is posted in every Apple article on Digg that has to do with updates for OS X
      • bsonline, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1No, it's posted in every Apple article on Digg where the fanboys come out to applaud the little bits of mud that fall off of Steve Jobs' boots.
        Seriously, how can the perfectly secure absolutely flawless system be uproved upon? Surely they only change the version numbers, right?
        This is just in fairness. Fanboys pour out in waves to bitch about non-apple stuff - we're just asking the one question you can't answer.
      • NotaFanboy87, on 07/01/2008, -0/+0bsonline,

        The big difference between mac updates and PC updates is that mac updates don't cause problems as much as PC updates and sometimes they even add new features. Mac users are excited because they feel like they're getting free stuff. The reason that the updates work so well is because Apple KNOWS exactly what hardware the software will be installed on, and that the software is based on BSD, which is (from what I hear) a MUCH easier system to update than Windows. To address your concern about 'the one question we can't answer,' even the most impenetrable walls must be maintained. This is system maintenance, not system reconstruction like Microsoft. Whereas Apple patches potential security risks and adds new features, Microsoft tends to resolve exploited security holes in order to maintain the feature set they already have. BOTTOM LINE: Mac users get more out of their $129 OS in 4 months than Microsoft users get from their $400 OS in over a year.
    • ploke, on 07/01/2008, -3/+9OS X has better advertising, and people really like using it. I think that is why people respond so much better to its improvements (patches).
      • metalpres, on 07/01/2008, -3/+2I would not call dishonest advertising better, I guess from an advertisers point of view it is because if you can say anything you want about your product without it being true it makes for one really fine looking product. From a consumers point of view its very poor advertising though and over time will lead to customers hating your product the same way everyone hates vista
    • agitpropre, on 07/01/2008, -5/+4Because there are never enough opportunities to say "windows sucks".
    • smrekar, on 07/01/2008, -3/+4because os x gets faster w/ updates and xp gets slower. i don't know how vista behaves.
    • reformation, on 07/01/2008, -1/+11Most mac users are either ex-Windows users, or are forced to use Windows at work.
      The same is not true for Windows users who have no experience of using a mac.

      I switched about 3 years ago, and immediately wondered why I had wasted so much time and money on 'cheaper' Windows machines in the past. I can honestly say that each time a new OS X update appears it feels reassuring, and that nothing has ever 'broken'. With windows it had the opposite effect, along with the dreaded rounds of rebooting and restarting required after each update.
      • KoMashka, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I think the same way like you! Every word!

        I use Mac at home and I still have to use Windows at my work - every time it is stress to me %) And every time I come back home i think why I did not buy Mac few year ago %)
      • unitedatheism, on 07/01/2008, -7/+2Most of the Windows users had to use a Mac for a fairly reasonable time and decided that they're better with Windows.
        Most Mac users bought a Mac 'cuz "It just work" (and the 4 SPs also just make it even more working! there were not bugs in fact, just some cool updates, right?) or looks cool and they rather stick with a ***** OS than to admit they've did something stupid.
        You can bury me down as much as you want, still you cannot hide from the truth.
      • tuffguy, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1@ unitedatheism:
        The truth that you do not know proper grammar or verb tenses?

        Well then, I guess I've did something stupid but I still like my Mac 'cuz "it just work."
      • delmar14, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1Every mac user I know is a former windows user. Great effing point.
      • smoger, on 07/01/2008, -2/+3i got a macbook a year and a half ago and im wondering why i'm using a much more expensive(no quotes, because it's *literally* expensive) machine with questionable batteries(already on my second), wi-fi that either works or doesn't based on what version im running(hopefully 10.5.4 sets it back to "works"), and a completely busted trackpad button... i mean seriously.. it's 2008,.. you're only giving me *1* ***** button, and you can't even make that one last more than 18 months? the pentium2 compaq laptop that i have running at home(24/7) from circa 1997 at least has 2 fully functional trackpad buttons! ..i'm just sayin..
    • jasonh1234, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2Proactive vs reactive. 'nuff said.
    • aronnyc, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1When something goes wrong with Windows, people blame Windows. When something goes wrong with a Mac, they blame Windows (if it's a Windows product), or technology in general. I was at the Apple forum a while back when someone said that their laptop failed to boot up, but THANK GOD Apple's Time Machine had everything backed up. They go on to say how wonder Apple is. That's all great, but it shouldn't have failed in the first place.

      I'm speaking as an Apple user, by the way, and I agree with you. Apple has its problems, too.

      (For example, look at this guy's blog: http://ondrejka.blogspot.com/2008/06/two-macs-died ... And he says it without irony.
  • digitallysick, on 07/01/2008, -11/+16Works fine on my hackintosh, i was able to upgrade directly through the software update. Expose' seems better and doesn't give me random hang ups.
    • smrekar, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4apple's legal team is getting creative.
      nice try!
    • samby, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1ya im dubious too. usually it leads to a kernel panic. more details???
  • transform100, on 07/01/2008, -13/+8I'm going to be honest who gives a *****? there just bug fixes!
  • hugsy182, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1I, like seldon452 above me, also got a MacBook today! I'm extremely happy with it so far, and am downloading the update as I type :)
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