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Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) has officially been released!

releases.ubuntu.com — The beta and the wait is over. Ubuntu 7.04 has been released and is available for immediate download.

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  • sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -7/+99Wow man your quick they JUST put that stuff up!

    Grats to the Ubuntu Devs for what is in my opinion their greatest release.
    • sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -2/+204The site is getting hammered grab the torrent if you can:
      http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent

      Also don't bother downloading if you have the 20070415 daily (aka the Release Candidate) it is EXACTLY the same, I just verified MD5sums.
    • EbilPhish, on 10/12/2007, -4/+33Also there is a mirror up if you can't torrent: http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-iso/feisty/
    • JelloShotz, on 10/12/2007, -107/+30Actually its not quite officially released yet, there working on the announcement now, I wish my connection was faster...

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    • trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34mirror of just the torrent in case the servers go down completely.:
      http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
    • sirdaz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+59I have a slight giggle when my bittorrent wont download, the direct link wont download, the ubuntu homepage is down.. Just goes to show how many people were waiting for this release.

      I take my hat off and bow down to the ubuntu devs that have worked towards this release!

      Now give me my turn to download it :(
    • grexeo, on 10/12/2007, -60/+19This is NOT the final release of Feisty Fawn. Feisty Fawn has NOT been released yet - the files you see there are PRE-RELEASE. Check the dates and don't waste bandwidth. Most of the mirrors listed are painfully outdated and still contain the BETA.

      Join the official Ubuntu IRC channel (#ubuntu or #ubuntu-release-party on irc.freenode.net) for the countdown to the final release.
    • sirdaz, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24@grexeo
      This IS the release. Join #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net and they will tell you.
      It is released, just not officially announced as yet.
    • grexeo, on 10/12/2007, -33/+42I am 100% certain this is not the final release.

      1.) Todays date is the 19th. The date of the ISOs, including the ISO within the torrent is the 15th.

      2.) The md5 check sums of the ISOs match the releases from the 15th.

      3.) The title of the official Ubuntu IRC channel is: "No, Feisty isn't out yet. - Please do all your waiting in #ubuntu-release-party[...]'. The title of the #ubuntu-release-party is "FEISTY IS NOT OUT YET[...]"

      Anyone leeching/seeding the torrent is wasting their time and bandwidth. The torrent is going to be replaced with the final release.
    • pwill, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21*upgrades to 7.10 testing*
    • Superschill, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4@grexeo

      At the bottom of the page, all of the files along with their release dates can be found -- including several which were released TODAY, the 19th.
    • manitoba98xp, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10As of 7:52 AM EDT, their home page still says "Download 6.10. Countdown to 7.04: Read about the new features" So these appear to be prerelease files, not that they'll have changed much.
    • sirdaz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@grexeo

      Apologies, seems people are saying all different things at the moment, and you make sence there.
      Looks like the developers are having a meeting at 4pm GMT, so we are waiting a few hours yet for the announced release.
    • shetboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2man, i only logged in to bury the most annoying comment ever.

      Congrats to the Ubuntu team, I shall await the Kubuntu release ;)
    • KoZo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Just a (noobish) question: Is this still available as a live cd?
    • cowninja, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Here is a quick mirror:
      (ftp also works) http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.04/ maintained by http://www.ussg.iu.edu
    • YellowJKT, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2@KoZo: I would like to know this as well. Can't find it anywhere on the site. LiveCD anyone?
    • sirdaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31The ubuntu setup CD IS the liveCD :)
      Boot from the setup CD, and you can use it as you would a live CD. The actual setup is an app found on the desktop of the live cd.
    • imrumpf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19@sirdaz

      Actually it's called the DESKTOP CD. The Desktop CD allows you to boot up to a live envirnment and use Ubuntu. Should you wish to install it, just run the program from the desktop. The ALTERNATE CD is the text-only install version whereas the SERVER CD is....well....a server version :P

      SO far I am really liking it, you can see the huge speed improvements just from the Desktop CD alone, as it is way more responsive.

      One thing I noticed was that the menu before you boot the Desktop CD now has a new option about some sort of addon CD? What's up with that?
    • strabes, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6@KoZo: All ubuntu releases are live CDs.
    • ray901, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2@SuperiorMan

      Hey kont-kop, feel like a real man now? blocked......
    • YellowJKT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@imrumpf & strabes: Thanks guys. I didn't know that. Downloading it now :-)
    • tomee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This desktop CD thing is great. I just tested it, and I could connect to my WPA encrypted wireless LAN immediately! Unfortunately it crashed once, but I'll assume that it was my fault, or because it isn't really the final version, or something to do with running it from CD maybe.
    • wvdavis, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8@ followchrist - Way to go there Jesus Freak. You know Ctrl+V... Hey, try this key stroke... Alt+F4.
    • Culture20, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Internet2 mirror for all you USA edu folk (hey, fast for others too):
      http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.04/
      ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.04/
    • code_of_life, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7@followchrist is so scared, he created a new login just for this comment. lame.
    • elvenseven, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5RELEASED!

      Guys, is this the right one?

      ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso 697.9 MB-Apr 15 2007 11:52:12 PM

      @followchrist

      Damn, whats the f'n point man. It's a free software. Can't you just leave it alone.
    • jasz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2w00t! w00t! w00t!
      /me so happy

    • Bonzodog, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10@followchrist - Welcome to my blocklist, what are you, 6 yrs old?
      That is so immature.
    • strabes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@elvenseven: The .iso you should download depends on the type of computer you have.
    • koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It's now live on Ubuntu.com: http://www.ubuntu.com
    • loconet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yes it is final. According to the channel topic on #ubuntu-release-party on freenode, The april 15th images are final.
    • Bartboy919, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Like this massive downloading didnt happen when Tiger or Vista was Pitated and released on the web.
    • Phate8263, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The best things in life are free
    • rpgmaker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I can see Kevin and Alex talking about ubuntu in their next Diggnation episode for at last to post (The Michael Dell's one and the Feisty release).
    • sinembarg0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It is released. the topic for #ubuntu-release-party is now:

      the topic for #ubuntu-release-party is: Feisty is released - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2007-April/000102.html | Yes, the CD images dated 15th April are final | Please download using BitTorrent: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent | Upgrade instructions and mirrors on http://www.ubuntu.com/
  • cwcheang, on 10/12/2007, -5/+62Finally! I've been waiting all day! Woohooo!

    Ubuntu is amazing. For a lot of people it's what makes them try Linux. Whether you like Slackware, Gentoo, Fedora or whatever better you have to acknowlegde that when Linux really goes mainstream one day Ubuntu played a major role.

    Here's to another 6 months before another release which will no doubt set standards again! Cheers to all Ubuntu devs and testers and the Ubuntu community in general for an excellent distro.
    • erzz, on 10/12/2007, -27/+5Or another 6 months until yet another release that cant manage the basics.

      e.g. authenticated proxy settings dont stick unless you manually edit files (why even have the menu entry when it does nothing!), it can't manage a docking station switching between the differing resolutions of the laptop monitor and the external monitor, choose which samba shares it will and won't mount on a completely random basis... blah blah blah.....
    • erzz, on 10/12/2007, -24/+4yeah yeah digg me down ;) stating facts.... it aint a grown-up OS until it can manage things other OS's (including many linux distros) can do as a given.
  • Visceral, on 10/12/2007, -9/+26http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
    http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/
    http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/
    http://mirror.lupaworld.com/ubuntu/releases/7.04/
    http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/
    http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
    http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
  • zapa, on 10/12/2007, -18/+13This is nice. I got my laptop yesterday and I can't wait to install new ubuntu into it.
  • arduenn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+34w00t. The first Digg post of many this morning that actually links to the real thing. Good job!
  • Visceral, on 10/12/2007, -5/+42Kubuntu http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/
  • Philluminati, on 10/12/2007, -14/+4Woot!
  • uplinks, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5Ubuntu Rocks
  • inukki, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4Ubuntu has saved my need to be diagnosed bekas it keeps me sane! it has been released into the wild!!! it's alive!!!
  • xfile087, on 10/12/2007, -16/+4quality release!
  • pHr34kY, on 10/12/2007, -20/+6I'm on the Torrent! Go Ubuntu!

    I would've posted this first if my 6.10 machine didn't lock up twice while trying to submit it... but that's Nvidia's fault. Looknig forward to 7.04 because I know it doesn't lock up.
    • pHr34kY, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Also, the main server is chocked. Check your country's mirror.

      The Australian mirror is up, and I'm pulling it down at over 1 megabyte per second:
      http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/7.04/
    • inukki, on 10/12/2007, -15/+1My connection is 1 MB per minute or so, Officially, it is 256Kb per sec. How bad is it?
    • pHr34kY, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10...and I have it. Time to seed it :)
    • aussieNickuss, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Thanks pHr34kY.

      Mine tops out at 153kB/s but thats cuz I'm only on 1.5Mb ADSL. I was putting up with 25kB from the US site but I'm to impatient.
    • pHr34kY, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4If you had cable you'd have it running by now.

      I just installed from scratch, posting from the machine right now! Seems to work well so far :)

      For the record, mine topped at 1.14MB/sec. Which is strange considering the mirror usually tops out at 350kb/s.

      Also, the aussie mirror is hosted by OptusNet if you didn't know already.
  • Thorandor, on 10/12/2007, -7/+49Sweet stuff!!

    And look at that, as opposed to WinXp ubuntu actually DID detect my inbuilt wireless card of my laptop - without problems, and without any hassle whatsoever....oh, and without reboots ;)
    • lilrabbit129, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17thats good to hear. Thats always been the biggest annoyance for me when it came to linux and laptops.
    • XGremlinX, on 10/12/2007, -13/+11Come on.. Windows XP was released in Oct 2001. Ubuntu 7.04 was released today. Is it so *wow* that Ubuntu ships with your drivers and XP doesn't?
      Anyway, congrats Ubuntu team, nice release :)
    • strebormj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"And look at that, as opposed to WinXp ubuntu actually DID detect my inbuilt wireless card of my laptop - without problems, and without any hassle whatsoever....oh, and without reboots ;)"

      Same here, although it also did in K/ubuntu 6.06.
  • saturn5, on 10/12/2007, -61/+5And it's just as boring and visually unappealing as all previous releases!
  • coolsva, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10There is absolutely no point in downloading this from either ubuntu or any other mirrors. All servers are getting hammered and you would get very low speed or get disconnected in middle. Even the tracker is getting unreliable, rejecting connections or plain down. DHT works great, so torrent is the only way to go.

    Got to love bittorrent (uTorrent) with DHT, absolute resilience and fault tolerence even under heavy loads
    • krinn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12LOL, I just tried to download the torrent and the official tracker is dead...
    • aussieNickuss, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2I tried the torrent and couldn't get over 500B/s. The direct ISO file linked on that page is coming in at 25-30kB/s. Slow compared to my normal download speed but certainly better than the torrent. Its an over nighter but I'm going to bed soon anyways.
    • coolsva, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Bittorrent by nature will start at a very low speed, gradually increasing as you start uploading more. I started with less than 10kbps on my 1.5M/512K DSL and increased to the pipe max (1.5Mbps) in less than 5 minutes. Downloaded the whole 700MB ISO image in less than 1 hour and am seeding now at full 512K speed.
      of course, the tracker is down, but thats what the DHT is designed to solve
    • BigManOnCampus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2 I'm getting 600KBps+ from sishgupta's mirror right now.
      Not that torrents are a bad thing, I just can't torrent from the subnet I'm on right now.
    • MaLaCoiD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Using FlashGet, http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-iso/feisty/ http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.04/ and http://ftp.citylink.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/feisty/ just gave me the .iso at 1.5 Mbps from my U of UT connection.
  • timmytheraw, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/feisty/
    http://ftp.citylink.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/feisty/
    http://ftp.chg.ru/pub/Linux/ubuntu/releases/feisty/
    http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/feisty/
  • timmytheraw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31If you are using linux already, and the torrent isn't working for you, do "wget -c url" without the quotes in a terminal window to do a direct, fault tolerant download. You would be surprised how many people are unaware of the -c switch which resumes downloads when your connection fails.

    Wget is also avail. for windows. Skip the bloatware download managers and use wget.
    • bilangew, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I agree completly. Putting windows ports of those programs (wget, g[un]zip, tar, etc) in the Windows %PATH% is a nice trick. Heck, I even put Putty in the %PATH% :)
    • Pow3rbook, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Thanks for the tip. I acually went from 48kb/s on firefox to 440kb/s with wget!
    • Kickersny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm also getting reasonable speeds (350K/sec, on a 100mbit line :-/) thanks to wget but I with bittorrent was up--I'd like to use my line speed to help others get it as well.

      Congratulations, Canonical. You have an amazing team.
    • kazoolist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Unfortunately, in my experience, a lot of the HTTP server mirrors don't work with wget -c flag.
    • wyattearp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1does anyone else find it annoying that 'wget' is consider malware by any commercial virus scanner?
    • coollettuce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1use downloadthemall for firefox and get 1mb/s
  • Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=3975

    seed your hearts out
    • Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2edit: ah this is build 18042007 but added today. don't think the link points you to the *final* release. nm. someone confirm?
  • coollettuce, on 10/12/2007, -13/+14I know this is off topic but I need digg's help.

    Well I'd love to install Ubuntu on my PC but when I boot it says the timer won't start or something and it says I should try noapic option. I've tried that and it still didn't work. I burned the ISO again and re-downloaded. Well I wish someone could help me. I'm really desperate. I wanna make to switch to Linux.

    I'll probably get dugg down but it's worth a try.
    • melissawm, on 10/12/2007, -7/+34ever heard of ubuntuforums.org?
    • ralph123, on 10/12/2007, -3/+33Well, I don't think digg is really meant for tech support (or good at it).

      Head on over to ubuntuforums.org and ask there. And try to be as specific in the description of your problem as possible, as it will make helping you a lot easier.

      Good luck!
    • ordminute, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Make a post in the Ubuntu forums. You might also like to try the Ubuntu-Alternate ISO in the meantime though. It is designed for situations like this - especially with little RAM - and may help.
    • mudfly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I just want to add that it could be something in your BIOS. I have an Asus board that worked perfect with Edgy, but changes to upstart and the kernel prevented installation from working correct under Feisty, even with the alternative cd. I had to upgrade to a beta bios from Asus. I am not saying this is your issue, but its worth looking into.
    • qhifed, on 10/12/2007, -13/+0I don't know why you're so desperate to use something that isn't working for you.

      The incompatibility should serve as a warning
    • Invid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just like Vista wouldn't install for me without a BIOS update? Better to be silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth...
    • truck87bp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Go download Burn4Free , it has a 'burn iso' option in the upper bar....worked great for me.
  • Murphious, on 10/12/2007, -18/+4So what are the main new features?
    • JoeFasanella, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18where have u been?
    • Murphious, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2Haha, Under a rock apparently.. I've heard about wireless connectivity. The Beryl mumbo-jumbo isn't until 7.10 is it?
    • inukki, on 10/12/2007, -14/+1i've been on DIGG, waiting for the angel of announcement tell me that it is ready
  • ssam, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15PowerPC and PS3 ISO are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/feisty/release/
    • just1n021, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Gr8! PS3 version of ISO!
      Question though, is the install on PS3 as complicated as it was previously, where one had to install Fedora first? Or is it strait Ubuntu install now?
    • just1n021, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Here are the help notes on how to install it on PS3!!
      https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
    • shmatt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4this is what makes digg great, I just search for 'powerpc' and there's my link.
      thanks ssam
  • CluelessTroll, on 10/12/2007, -16/+11SEED!!!!!!!
  • sonicvanajr, on 10/12/2007, -59/+9Great... the fleet of wanna-be Linux Gurus continues to grow.

    No offense to any Ubuntu users, I even used it myself for awhile, but after using Gentoo for the past six months there are a couple things I have learned.
    First off Ubuntu doesn't really teach you that much about Linux. Most things can be done via the GUI, which granted is very nice for beginners, and helps people who might be scared of Linux ease into it, but you can't really get a good grasp on Linux until you've sat in terminal for an hour trying to get something to work, and after reading uptine man pages finally figure it out.
    Secondly, as I stated Ubuntu is very GUI oriented, which makes people dependent on the GUI so when a problem comes along and they are required to do some more "under the hood" work on their box, well most of them are forced to make a new topic on the Ubuntu Forums pleading for help. However, some of them actually search the forums to see if anyone has had their problem, and I applaud those select few.

    Again, I don't HATE Ubuntu, I just think that nobody should use it for a period of over four or fives months. Unless you're one of those people that simply can't be bothered with learning the inner workings of Linux, then it's perfect for you, but don't expect to become any type of guru from using it.
    • thesquirrelwood, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Well you don't *have* to do things in the gui. You can configure everything without the GUI just like every other distro. If you want to learn to configure things without a GUI then just don't use the GUI. But it's nice that the option to configure things in a GUI is there for those who want it.
    • brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+64I don't think the purpose of Ubuntu was to TEACH people about Linux. It's purpose was to make a distribution so that normal people could USE Linux.
    • Simon80, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23It's not like Ubuntu prevents someone from learning about how things work, it just doesn't require you to learn about them before doing something productive. This can be a bad thing when it comes to things like security, but you're basically arguing that Ubuntu is too easy to use, and I disagree. Gentoo is basically the opposite, forcing the user to learn how to configure a package before it will function correctly, and it's a huge pain to have to go through that without seeing anything useful in between.
    • sgen, on 10/12/2007, -4/+47[...]"First off Ubuntu doesn't really teach you that much about Linux."[...]

      They don't want to learn that much about linux. They just want to run free software.

      [...]"Secondly, as I stated Ubuntu is very GUI oriented, which makes people dependent on the GUI so when a problem comes along and they are required to do some more "under the hood" work on their box"[...]

      They don't want problems to come along. They don't want to work under the hood. They just want to run free software.
    • ijustlost, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Yes, you're right that Ubuntu is very gui orientated, and doesn't require you to do much in the terminal, and I think that's exacty what they set out to achieve, and what's needed for your average user moving over from windowze to something better.
      I like Ubuntu because I'm a pretty busy person, and it generally works without lots of time fiddling in the command line, unlike other distros which seem to take much longer to config properly. But I also like the fact that in Ubunutu you still have the command line flexibility.

      And a good grasp of unix after an hour fiddling in the terminal? Make that 100+ hours!
    • ralph123, on 10/12/2007, -4/+50As someone who has used gentoo for several years, there's one think I really can't stand.

      Pompous idiots who think they are leet or a guru or whatever just because they use gentoo.
      Using gentoo is not hard if you have half a brain and it will only give you a very limited knowledge of linux. Yes, you are probably forced to learn some things because you are simply expected to do them yourself in gentoo, but so what?

      Neither gentoo nor ubuntu will teach you linux (and after all, they are operating systems, not learning tools), if you really want to learn something, you'll still have to learn it yourself.
    • yoasif, on 10/12/2007, -2/+39What's wrong with being a Linux distro that anyone can use? Linux doesn't have to be "hard" -- look at Mac OS X, easy *nix. Stop with the elitism, it looks bad.
    • c0ldfusi0n, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I'm gonna have to disagree with you, sonic. Actually, i do agree that Ubuntu is GUI-oriented and good for beginners, but it's what the Linux world has been lacking for the past few years: an easy solution for people who want to migrate from Windows. And that is what the Linux community needs in order to gain some commercial credibility on the desktop market.
    • timmytheraw, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20@sonicvanajr

      I'm not really disagreeing with you on any particular point. And I am not trying to start a flame war or anything. Just some of my own points that relate to yours.

      How many people had no idea what Linux was until they heard/tried Ubuntu? Ubuntu does help get the word out that there are alternatives to Windows, and helps shine a brighter light on open source in general. (As all distros do, some better than others)
      Even if a linux fan boy doesn't like Ubuntu for personal use, it should still be respected to a certain degree if for no other reason than it helps get the word out on open source.

      Ubuntu does have a lot of GUI administration stuff that other distros lack (lack by default, I'm sure they can be added) This may be seen as lame to experienced Linux users, but the fact remains that you can still do everything in a terminal window in Ubuntu that you can do in any other distro. I have used Ubuntu for over a year (prior to that Red Hat/Fedora) and rarely use the helpful GUI admin stuff (besides the networking, that's just handy).


      Ubuntu has a large enough following that you can go to Google and type "Ubuntu" followed by whatever problem you are having, and you will probably find your answer. These answers are *usually* console commands, so over time new-to-linux Ubuntu users will, in many cases, learn a whole lot about the 'under the hood' stuff. Or at least that there is a hood and stuff is under that hood. They can then choose to take a closer look, or not.



      How many Windows users give up (and ask someone to fix it for them) the second they can't fix something or their program is operating slightly different than usual? That's just how people operate when they aren't tech junkies. There is nothing wrong with that. Not everyone has to have great computer skills. Maybe some have other talents in life. So, it really doesn't matter if there are some Linux (Ubuntu) users out there that don't know how to compile from source, or use Vi/Emacs/whatever.


      As a side note, any experienced Linux user will tell you that all distros are basically the same. Maybe you download RPM instead of Deb files or one distro comes with KDE by default instead of Gnome. It's all basically the same stuff with a different skin.


      What it all comes down to is what operating system gets the job done the quickest and easiest *for the individual*. Who really cares if they use Windows/OSX/Linux/BeOS/etc? It's just a tool. I'll never understand OS zealots. Not that sonicvanajr is a zealot. He had a rational opinion and should be dugg up for it even if you dont agree with him. It's just that there are a lot of digg users that think their OS is the best and everyone should use it because they like it.
    • Marthinus, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1@sonic
      Maybe you should step away from the bong and take a breath of fresh air for a change.
    • kaniz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13You know, I want to USE my computer when I get in from work, not dig through text files trying to make things work.
      I used to run Linux back in high school for a few years, like 6 years ago. I ran Slackware, and at that time in my life - I was more than happy to spend hours slugging away at the console making things work. Hell, with the exception of surfing the net, pretty much everything I did was text based - editing, IRC, ftp, etc. I was all for 'getting l33t g33k cred'

      Now, that I'm older and wiser, I realize : Hey, I'd much rather be able to click on a GUI config setting to get things working, and have a system that is pretty much good to go 'out of the box' - I dont have the time or patience for other distros anymore.
    • GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@timmytheraw

      I disagree that all Linux distros are essentially the same. There is an increasingly large set of tools that a distro has to be built to use from the get go, adding them later would require huge recompiles. The obvious one (and Ubuntu's major weakness in not having it) is SELinux. You can't easily hack SELinux onto a distro, it has to be built with it in mind. There are also other things like using hardened compile options. This has to be done ex ante, it can't be added later without a recompile. Also it isn't easy to alter the linking system later on.

      Despite this the interfaces for all Linux distros are very similar but technically there are some serious differences between some of them. The tasks are performed the same way but there are some architectural issues beneath everything that either make a system more secure or perform better.
    • ray901, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@sonicvanajr

      We all bow down to your imagined superiority. Everyone, quick, stop using Ubuntu, switch to gentoo so you too can claim superiority over others. Sonic, YOU are the reason why windows and Osx users think linux users are a bunch of stuck up tossers, and in your case they would be right.
    • BigManOnCampus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You're a strange person sonicvanajr... to quote from you:

      "but you can't really get a good grasp on Linux until you've sat in terminal for an hour trying to get something to work, "

      Really? And I thought the purpose of computers for most people on the planet was to accomplish tasks for them in such a way that they aren't spending hours at a terminal prompt trying to get one function to work. I didn't realize that the only possible use of computers was to teach the world the nitty-gritty of operating system function by forcing them to learn things they don't want to under the guise of somehow making it all easier. Huh, I guess I had it all backwards...

      Understand that I prefer command line for changing anything. So you're not talking to an idiot, just someone who recognizes the rest of the worlds desire for an OS that doesn't hassle them with command-line-option-speak for hours or even days before achieving a small success.
    • killercow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Dude, don't get your pants into a knot.

      I used to use gentoo, i build webapplications and the underlying linux clusters as my job.

      I'm still using ubuntu on all of my desktops in my company, you know why?

      Because i can skip being a sysadmin for my system (like you would be when using windows or gentoo) and just expect everything to work.

      I'l build my clusters with debian and gentoo, but come-one, you haven't gained any points by using gentoo there son. We'd love to see you be productive in the linux community, and yes using gentoo teaches you some parts of the inner workings of linux, but it clearny doesn't teach you how to spread the word.

      With more linux installs happening around the globe, the hardware and game vendors won't ignore linux anymore, that is something you can't possibly hope to solve from the CLI.
    • jdhore1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I Run Debian, Gentoo, Ubuntu Feisty (since like Herd 4) and OS X...basically i've SERIOUSLY noticed that Ubuntu is just Debian with some nice themes slapped on, a few easy to use configuration tools and an easier installer...but Debian is faster, more stable and lighter (resources and HD space wise). Ubuntu's great for what it is, a easy to use linux distro for anybody (i use it cuz sometimes i like to be a lazy bastard), but it's nothing more, it's not the be all, end all distro of linux.
    • sonicvanajr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3To those who are basically bashing me and viewing me as some Linux purist who hates all Ubuntu users, you vastly misinterpreted my comment.

      I know many Ubuntu users, some in person and some online, that have the mentality that they are "ZOMG 1337 H4X0R" because they use Ubuntu, and I constantly get in debates with them that with Ubuntu they are grossly masking their ability to learn the inner workings of Linux.

      Stating that the only way to learn Linux was to "sit in terminal for hours" was somewhat stupid of me, but the point I was trying to get across was that a GUI isn't going to show you what is really going on behind the scenes in Linux, granted neither are RC scripts, but they're closer. I'm not trying to act above any Ubuntu users either by stating that I use Gentoo, hell if I really wanted to be a hardcore Linux user I'd use LFS, but even I like some things simplified for me, and Gentoo does do that despite common folklore.

      It merely pisses me off when people act leet because they're using what I view as the "newbies" Linux. I personally love Ubuntu because it brings people over from the wicked world of Windows, but I wouldn't recommend it to someone who desires to get down and dirty with Linux, sure Ubuntu offers the ability to do so, but it was built around the "Linux for human beings" philosophy. Implying that people shouldn't have to get down and dirty, which is great, and attracts newcomers.

      Linux is based around community, we don't (or at least shouldn't) have distro cults. So any addition to the community is a positive addition. Bar non.

      I hope my intentions are much more understood now.

      I apologize to those inflamed.
    • sanguinemoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Way is everybody rushing in to attack Sonic? I understand just wanting something at home that works and that not everybody even wants to be an admin or guru. But he was accused of elitism. In his post, he did not claim to be elite. Somebody said "Pompous idiots who think they are leet or a guru or whatever just because they use gentoo." I didn't see his post as pompous nor leet. On Digg, people are extremely quick to bury any comment they see that they think is against Ubuntu and flame the commentor, seemingly without even bothering to see what he's really trying to say and this is done to the extent that it really smacks of fanboyism.

      He didn't say Ubuntu was bad, but what he seems to be saying is that as a distro to learn on its not the best. And he's probably right. The answer to "I can't get such and such application to install" is "Get Automatix2" instead of learning to read debugging messages and fix it, just for example. And this is probably ok for the casual user. And if all you want to be is a casual user, fine. Good that you're not with Windows anymore. But there is not reason to gang up on somebody that makes the slightest criticism of your distro. Somebody said "Stop with the elitism, it looks bad." How to do you think this flamefest looks? Like Ubuntu users are open minded, willing to listen to criticism and tolerant of differences of opinion?
    • IgniFerrorque, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Having used Gentoo for a number of years, I can't really argue with you that it teaches you how to use linux better. The manual Gentoo install is basically an imposed tutorial on all the basic aspects of a linux system. By comparison, Ubuntu just dumps you with GUIs and when GUIs fail, you don't know what to do because it didn't teach you how things worked at all. Also, Gentoo has excellent documentation and excellent user support compared to Ubuntu.

      Yet, Ubuntu is not to be berated, and there is a reason to its popularity. First, it's structured around the user experience. When things work, they work smoothly and easily. The QA level is just incomparable.

      Next, ease and speed of install. Gentoo is fun, but when you just want something to work now, you don't want to wait 2 hours for a package to compile.

      And then there's the fact that it's pretty much impossible to only update security fixes on a gentoo box. You will have to upgrade software, causing long compile times and potential breakage. This kind of automatically excludes Gentoo from a corporate environment where support time = money. By comparison, Ubuntu has a Long term support release.

      Overall, you can't argue that Ubuntu is just more polished and that it just nurtures and cuddles the user much more than Gentoo. Yet, if you have some (lots of) time to spend, Gentoo just feels better (for me) and it's an instructive experience anyway.
    • sanguinemoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I haven't used Gentoo, but having used Ubuntu and now on Debian Etch, the ease of use is the same. In fact, I'd say the netinstaller for Debian is easier than and less of a pain than Ubuntu's installer. Ubuntu's tauted ease of use is largely a myth. There's features such as installing codecs on demand in this release, but I don't see the point. You just install the codecs from the restricted repositories and you're done anyway. Get ready to digg me down, but the reason Ubuntu is so popular is the hype.
  • thesquirrelwood, on 10/12/2007, -16/+3buried as inaccurate. The release has not been made until it is officially announced. They could just be testing still...
    • grexeo, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3Correct, this is the pre-release version - hence the date of the files. Although the date of the torrent shows the 19th, it contains the pre-release version. Wait for the final release in a few hours and save your bandwidth.
  • pendetim, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24I have been running the beta reeases for about 3 weeks on my laptop. This is my first 'nix operating system so it is very new to me. I had no troubles at all except for taming my ALPS mousepad to keep it from random clicking. Eventually Google lead me to a GUI for the touchpad.

    I had tried a copy of Vista ( that must be the word for "fat slow pig" in some foreign language) for 3 days on a new HDD , became very frustrated, then went to Feisty Fawn 7.04.11->12->14->15.

    The developers have done an outstanding job making the front end easy for a n00b like my self to use and manage.

    Hats off to the team!!!

  • clesch, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2geez, this is slow.

    *sets up 100 mbit seedbox*
  • steve23063, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4I can't believe how many retarded people are on digg. Look at the dates people.

    "ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso 15-Apr-2007"
  • LeapFrog, on 10/12/2007, -13/+5Geez, this is a daily build from the 15th.

    Buried.
    • grexeo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16A quote from the Ubuntu IRC channel: "digg always ejaculates prematurely"

      It's pointless seeding the torrent; it's going to be replaced when the final release is out shortly.
  • yoasif, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6This is not out... I love Ubuntu, but dugg down as inaccurate.
  • mooseblaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6(repeat)
  • mooseblaster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Another UK mirror: http://mirror.termisoc.org/releases.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/

    And yes, this is the final release, not a beta or a daily build. Check your facts, people.
    • grexeo, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4Or you could try checking facts yourself.

      The date today is the 19th. The date of those ISOs, including the ISO within the torrent is the 15th. Hence this is the pre-release candidate and not the final release.
    • yoasif, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5As of a second ago, in the official ubuntu-release-party irc channel -- "FEISTY IS NOT OUT YET".

      Check your "facts", please.
    • mooseblaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Yes, but the 15th was when the final release CD was run through the CRC and install checks. Thus, the isos ARE the final release isos.

      But if you wish to be pedantic, then the final releases have been seeded to the mirrors but the front page has not officially announced it.
    • Ac1d, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Awesome thanks, over 10 times the speed I was getting before :)
  • gtluke, on 10/12/2007, -5/+00 seeds on the torrent? wtf
    • noseeme, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I see one, which is likely being hosted by ubuntu.com
  • noseeme, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6Yep, it's official. This is really it.
    It's been a good six months with Edgy (completely problem free), but I'm ready for a change. :)
  • ijustlost, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9ubuntu.com dugg?
    • astrogirl2100, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's been down since I got up this morning, Central European Time. However http://torrent.ubuntu.com is up and there is a library for the official release, but the torrent is not there yet.
    • trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Don't flatter yourselves, Ubuntu.com got all this traffic on their own, they have easily survived being dugg before, and they were down long before they were dugg.
  • zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6The hardcore *nix zealots must be getting really mad that Ubuntu is helping to open the door to those less technically oriented. I can imagine they are all throwing up their arms and responding by racing off to go and use the most obscure alternative distribution that they can find in order to be able to scream old favourites like RTFM and Noob^H^H^H^H at a whole new bunch of users.
    • iggdawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm a BSD guy and have been for a long time now, and I think Ubuntu is doing a great job of opening people to open source. Honestly I don't think mine is a rare opinion... afaik there aren't many "hardcore *nix zealots" that look down on unix-like OSs becoming common. Personally I still have BSD for my server and network devices and have no intention of changing that, but I prefer Ubuntu on my desktop devices and I'm quite happy with it.
    • zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm with you there, as I run my server on FreeBSD. Once you use ports it's hard to go back to package managers! Anyway, I still rub shoulders with these tech snobs they are out there, just the rooms they hang out and socialise in are getting darker and more isolated.
  • kcgirlgeek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Well, this is it. This release is what I've been waiting for to try Ubuntu. Now I just need to try to find a blank CD somewhere in my home (not easy with a 17 year old mp3 junkie in the house, but hey...there's got to be one SOME where). I'm such a Linux n00b though, I'm still a bit scared, but it's a fear I need to conquer to get away from MS. The OS is the only thing left on my machine that's still Microshaft, so it's time for a change.

    So then, I just need to burn the .iso onto the disc, check the MD5sums, boot it up and I'm good to go for a trial run, right? Sorry...but you all know a LOT more about this than this 43 year old momma here does! :D

    Wow...I'm very excited!
    • Flipsen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9There's no need to "choose one over the other", many of us run dual boot, that's windows and linux side by side on the same machine (you pick what you want during booting).

      The installer should be able to guide you through that if you want, but do some research on hard drive partitioning to make sure you'll be alright.
    • bocanegra, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Don't risk your precious blank CD. Wait for the official release just to be sure.
    • strebormj, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1"So then, I just need to burn the .iso onto the disc, check the MD5sums, boot it up and I'm good to go for a trial run, right? Sorry...but you all know a LOT more about this than this 43 year old momma here does! :D"

      Yep. Tried it last night. My only issue, ironically, is with using either Firefox 1.5.x (downloadable from Mozilla.org) or 2.0.3 (available via the "Add/remove programs" item on the main menu to post to Digg.com. I tried it last night and with both versions (but not Konqueror, the native web browser), the CPU on my laptop would peg and the entire desktop would become unresponsive. I suspect that there's something amiss with the flash plug-in. I have been using FF 1.5.x on (K)ubuntu version 6.06 for almost a year without any problems like this, and I haven't seen it on FF 1.5.x on XP either.


    • ComputerGuru, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I recommend using the freeware EasyBCD to dual-boot Ubuntu and Windows: http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
      It let's you set up a one-click dual-boot system with no hacking, no coding, no mess, no headache :-)
    • ray901, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1...
  • digitallysick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8if your in feisty beta cant you just apt-get update/upgrade?
    • xfile087, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10You certainly can!
    • ikehack, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I believe you do a 'dist-upgrade'? I'm not sure / remember, because I never used it, and never will. But try 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
    • digitallysick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

      tells me 0 new updates avail, so maybe i'm already running it? *scratches head*
    • ikehack, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Like I said, i dont know if there's a repository you have to add in /etc/apt/sources.list because I've never used it. Check the Ubuntu Forums, and find a detailed way on how to do it. Might also want to try

      sudo aptitude update
      sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
    • chucklechops, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0dist-upgrade won't do anything unless you edit sources.lst to point to the fiesty repos. You need to type:

      gksu "update-manager -c"

      ..and hit the big upgrade button at the top.

      This is the 'official' upgrade method according to the sticky on ubuntuforums. Don't know how that differs from editing sources.lst manually but I have a nice friendly window saying 'Upgrading Ubuntu to version 7.04' and a progress bar to watch so that's a bonus.
    • neuropsychguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading"

      There's the upgrading guide.
  • kcgirlgeek, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2ACK! Now I have to wait for the OFFICIAL release! Further torture in the name of getting away from Microshaft. Meh....torture that I'm thinking will be well worth it. Okay then...back to my coffee. Will SOMEONE please let us know when this IS the official release?
    • GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Even if it's not official it is close to it and an update would bring it up to full officialdom when the packages are committed to the repository (they probably already are). The main benefit of waiting for the official release is so you have less downloading to do on future installs or if there is a serious issue with the earlier builds.

      I'd probably wait for the official release if this is your first time using it though.
  • Khaine, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Sweet!

    Can't wait to try it out
  • dot_mkd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1ftp://ftp.rrzn.uni-hannover.de/pub/mirror/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.04
  • SimonUK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Xubuntu 7.04

    http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/
  • Lodarage, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2You can find the torrents of the DVD versions here:

    Ubuntu 7.04 DVD:
    http://torrent.ubuntu.com/dvd/20070418/

    Kubuntu 7.04 DVD:
    http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/release/dvd/

  • veza, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_manually_update_Ubuntu

    sudo aptitude update
    sudo aptitude upgrade
    sudo aptitude dist-upgrade

    :)
    • bonez05, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Do you need to edit your sources.list to say feisty instead of edgy?
    • Blazeix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm pretty sure that link is just for updating your current version. They aren't going to automatically switch all people from Edgy to Feisty.
  • inkubux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been running Feisty since herd5 and I msut say it's really stable. I would have liked a graphical change though but hey what else can we say i free, it rocks and it's stable.
  • di0rz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1download the torrent from:
    http://honeynova.ath.cx/details.php?hash=7310e97af8bfa6cab53d5fee7a2cff5e2fe516c8
  • hdwow, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1This is not official yet. Please don't download the isos until the release is officially announed, otherwise the site will be hammered, and the mirrors will be unable to copy the files across.

    I repeat: downloading the isos now will slow the release process down for everyone, and cost Canonical real money in bandwidth.

    This is a community project, so please do what's best for the community.
  • jacko1990, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Just give me an Ubuntu Ultimate Edition of the final release and I will be happy. There's so much less work involved.
  • di0rz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1http://honeynova.ath.cx/details.php?hash=bb7030455764854463492cd464416811a1883e17
  • lezard, on 10/12/2007, -16/+2No, thanks, I've got my Mandriva 2007.1 and Ubuntu doesn't offer any things compared to it. I will keep my good mature wizards and my great KDE :)
    • ray901, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3good for you
    • GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I find Mandriva to be weak these days. It used to be decent but has been surpassed by a few distros in recent times. The basic install is still nice but it's a PITA to upgrade beyond that.
    • MrHighTech, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I personally left Mandriva because I hated urpmi. apt-get did the trick for me.
  • mostapha, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7This is a good day for human kind.
  • rdjurovich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10As taken from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411201&page=256#2552

    "These are the isos for the final release. The timestamps from April 15th just tell us, that the release-candidate-isos (which have not been release "officially", like Herd 1-5) have proven okay and are now used as finals. The torrents are from today."

    So I'm guessing the file I just downloaded is the final version. :D
    • rdjurovich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5From an Ubuntu development team member, the question I asked:
      "the files that are up, will they be the same files that will be up once the 7.04 release is officially announced, because I just downloaded the ISO's, and am not sure if i should start burning CD's for my friends.".
      the response:
      "it is likely at this point, but it would not be advisable to commit money in the form of CD-Rs to it until the announcement goes out"
      Hope that helps. :D
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