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AllOfMp3.com Launces allTunes Software

techcrunch.com — AllofMP3 has released a beta of its latest desktop music library and download tool allTunes. It is a windows desktop or smartphone interface to the AllOFMP3 library, allowing users to find and download high quality music easily.

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  • jeromeerome, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22Direct link if your not interested in the story: http://www.alltunes.com/en-index.shtml
  • iMactel, on 10/12/2007, -14/+16The title should be changed to "Launches" instead of Launces.
    • Shinglor, on 10/12/2007, -33/+5ZOMG!!!!!111one1cos(0), report the story as inaccurate! We can't have this kind of false information spreading through Digg, if it weren't for your informative post, who knows how many times I would have written "launces", thinking that it was correctly spelled.
  • Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9I have been using alltunes for a month or so now. :P I wish I was smart enough to submit it to digg first, haha.
    • DrGonzo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You and me both. Figured someone else would have already posted it, so why bother eh?
  • nathanmock, on 10/12/2007, -21/+18Might as well pirate your songs. The main reason why I buy songs is to support the artist, and I doubt any of this money actually goes to the artists themselves. What a shame.
    • frem001, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37the best way to support your favorite artist is to see them in concert, they earn more from touring.
    • rockforever, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25Buying CDs hardly supports the artist. It supports their lawyers, their record label, the RIAA, RIAA lawyers/lobbyists... etc...
    • frem001, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9It's legal in russia (and only through a loop hole in the law), not sure if it's still legal if you download music and you're in the US... anyone know?
    • zybch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13If you want to support your favourite artists, just send them a cheque!
      They get bugger all from the studios when you buy a CD, and even less when you download a track via iTunes etc.
    • seanalltogether, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10"It's legal in russia (and only through a loop hole in the law), not sure if it's still legal if you download music and you're in the US... anyone know?"

      Remember, its only illegal to download something IF its illegal to POSSESS it (ie: child porn). Possessing mp3's is not illegal. However, DISTRIBUTING mp3 that you dont own the copyright to is illegal in the USA, hence the lawsuits by the riaa.
    • seanalltogether, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13oh yeah ,and allofmp3 does support the artists

      "The Music Industry claims that Allofmp3 is illegal. Their opinion is that recorded music has three sets of rights. The songwriter has the copyright to the song, the artist his own rights in it, and the record label and producers a third set. Allofmp3 is paying the songwriters, via the collection agency ROMS, but they are acting without the permission of the other copyright holders."
    • cleverboy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Not all artists perform in public. There are many indpendant artists who would simply like to sell their music and get paid by fans who enjoy them. I understand why people don't want to hear this, but it'd be refreshing if they were just honest about it like "michaeldaley" in that other thread. michaeldaley: "I love allofmp3 and I don't care whether or not artists see money for their work. Expression should be a reward in itself." It's ridiculous that people jump on arguments and then forget to attach it to reason. --Like, the one that says pirating software actually helps "promote" the small developer by giving him a bigger marketshare. Yikes.
    • DrGonzo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Think about this conspiracy theory for a sec... What if AllofMP3 is being run by some in the music industry that either A- want to get in on the action on both sides, B- work out all of the bugs of how much is too much to charge & what is the most popular delivery method, or C- grab all of our email & IP addresses, PayPal & Credit Card info.

      Both the AllofMP3 site and the AllTunes program seem quite well polished. Leads us paranoid types to thinking that there's big money behind it all. Maybe the Russian mafia will turn out to be the least of our worries...
    • Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1AllOfMP3 is still illegal for Americans to use and the artist gets no money. So why the fanboyism with with this site?

      Oh, right, OGG format... *sigh*
  • jnorris441, on 10/12/2007, -17/+4Are they TRYING to get shut down?
    • kevogod, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16The service is legal in Russia and U.S. import laws make the songs downloaded from the service, legal in the U.S.

      Read http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3faq.htm
    • stark23x, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19They recently won a legal challenge. They are 100% legal in Russia.

      As for the program...it's a much nicer interface that the old Explorer utility.
  • frem001, on 10/12/2007, -18/+4I feel bad for artists who aren't getting their cut, however measily, from their record labels, well except for ***** artists like britnay and jessica slapper
  • abeg, on 10/12/2007, -9/+31sorry.. i hate to be a digg police but it been around for at least 2 months and even posted here on digg.. i know cause i was going to post but seen someone else posted

    http://digg.com/music/allTunes_-_The_new_way_to_shop_AllOfMp3.com
    http://digg.com/music/allTunes_-_AllOfMP3_s_Downloadable_Program_Store

    i like it its better then the all of mp3 explorer
    • diafel, on 10/12/2007, -13/+13Why is this comment downdigged? It's true. This story is old and a dupe.
    • Spartn119, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thanks for pointing this out. I thought this news was huge when I posted the original story, but after only getting 23 diggs I thought I had been proven wrong. Kind of annoying when this kind of thing happens.
    • tdiddy54, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ya know somtimes people just aren't digging for those kind of stories. Its wierd how sometimes a story wno't make it big. but a few weeks later it wil...
  • aThing, on 10/12/2007, -19/+1Yay patented formats!
    • Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Not sure I really get your meaning, but if you are referring to the using mp3 format, that isn't all they support. You can choose at purchase time whether you want your file as an mp3, ogg, flac, or some other file format. You can also choose from several bitrates. Of course the price goes up with the higher bitrates, but still, 3 bucks a CD is a good price.
    • LycoLoco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's better to be patented than to be DRMed. If you wanna avoid patented formats, your choices are limited. At least this way you can choose what you want without DRM.
  • bengringo, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3wow, I've got to say allofmp3.com has got some ball's on them for doing this. Then again they have been offering these song's for awhile, now its just easier to obtain them.
  • codyman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah concerts make the artists big money. I mean, the Rolling Stones (aka The Tomb Stones these days) just received $150 bucks from me last November and The Scorpions received 65 from me in July.
  • burnt1ce85, on 10/12/2007, -15/+1Att
  • dpkp, on 10/12/2007, -15/+8Just because you pay for it doesn't make it legal... AllofMP3.com is squarely in defiance of the Berne Convention, WTO, TRIPs, etc. You pay for bandwidth, which goes to the company, the artists get nothing.

    I commend the desire to pay artists, but this is not the way to do it.
    • dpkp, on 10/12/2007, -10/+8as my previous comment is getting a few -diggs, let me rephrase.

      Downloading copyrighted music from AllofMP3.com from within the US is a violation of US Copyright law, despite what some kids from germany (museekster) say, what the Russian agencies who benefit say, or those who believe they are paying artists directly seem to believe.

      Any US attorney who knows copyright law will tell you that this is copyright infringement under US law, the maximum penalty for which is $150,000 per track.

      I wish there were a cheap legal and comprehensive music download service. But it distresses me that the myth of AllofMP3 legality continues...
    • cleverboy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4@dpkp: It's a shame isn't it? Anyone who owns a copyright to their own independent music, having it go on AllofMp3.com likely means next to nothing positive for them, and means that they'll get lots of kids and other underinformed people recommending others to buy their album at sites like AllofMp3.com. This "bands get paid by concerts" tosh is a lame when people use it primarily as a salve for their "I'm screwing my favorite artist" wound. If a band sells music on their website, best you just buy it from their website. If "They Must Be Giants" loses a nickel of business to AllofMp3.com, you've done them no great service, when they've taken the trouble to have purchaseable mp3 tracks directly off their website. Someone needs to compile a watchlist of bands and labels "doing it right", so that people don't think AllTunes is any type of acceptable "response" to what they don't like about the RIAA. For artists, the AllofMp3.com paradigm is essentially buying your product/album, setting their own price, and telling you they'll pay you when they get around to it (maybe). Yipes. Seeing the long lines for getting music onto iTunes, you might be wondering where the line starts for artists trying to get on AllofMp3.com? It's over there, next to the gateway to Hell.
    • Cglass, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3Hi, I'm cleverboy and my paragraph goes all over the place and runs on and on and on and on and has some sarcasm or maybe not and doesn't make much sense but yea like I wanted to post to make sure that I sound cool in case someone cool I know checks this cool site but doesnt pay AllofMp3, sounds shady, yeh
    • cleverboy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3@Cglass: "my paragraph goes all over the place and runs on and on and on and on"
      Aw. Dude, I'm sorry you have A.D.D., I know its tough. Just take the *second* sentence and the *last* sentence from my post above, that should help you work it out. I have no trouble understanding why you wouldn't want to understand me, its all in my post. Responsibility is frightening to a lot of people.
    • xtracto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9No, you are wrong.

      allofmp3 is NOT illegal in Russia, they pay the fees they HAVE to pay to distribute the songs (that the fees are low is problem of the law but they are not breaking it).

      And also from
      http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00000602----000-.html
      -----
      Importation, for the PRIVATE USE OF THE IMPORTER and not for distribution, by any person with respect to no more than one copy or phonorecord of any one work at any one time, or by any person arriving from outside the United States with respect to copies or phonorecords forming part of such person’s personal baggage.
      ----
      In a case where the copies or phonorecords were lawfully made, the United States Customs Service has no authority to prevent their importation
      ---

      So, you see, the phone record was "produced" under the law in Russia and you import it when you download it (as they are sending *you* the bytes).

      Anyways, I have talked to a lawyer and friend of mine and told me it is legal at least for Mexico =o).

      And IIRC the illegal thing of the p2p networks is not the downloading side BUT the distribution, you should check the information of the RIAA lawsuits (the actual information not the press reviews).
    • dpkp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This is not importation of "copies or phonorecords" - two terms of legal art, both defined here:

      http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00000101----000-.html

      They both require what copyright lawyers refer to as "fixation in a tangible medium" ala an actual CD, tape, record, book, DVD, etc. They do not include digital transmissions. Legally speaking, the copy/phonorecord is created when that signal becomes an MP3 on your harddrive, at which point you are in violation of 17 USC 106, and subject to civil and perhaps even criminal liability.

      This might be importation, on the other hand, if AllofMP3 burned a copy of the CD you ordered and sent it to you in the mail. But as it turns out, the "loophole" in Russian law only allows them to "broadcast" not to create new copies, which would mean they'd certainly be violating Russian law by burning CDs for you.

      Again, I wish this weren't the case, but it is, and ignorance of the law can be very dangerous.
  • mtrip, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2Are you really going to trust your Credit Card number to some company in Russia?
    • form3hide, on 10/12/2007, -13/+4mtrip, I'm certainly not going to trust some company in Russia with my credit card number.

      That's why you use PayPal with their service -- well, atleast for the old allofmp3 explorer.
    • AngryShroom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9they havent taken paypal in years
    • w0rd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've been told that they do if you request it via email. It goes through another site that processes their money.
    • aspirinetu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3why not? or even better: why should i trust in an US based one?
  • thidranki, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3Wow. they're selling CDs for just over a dollar. Does anybody know if this service is legit, and how good the quality is? (Is there a DRM?)
    • Agraek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Allofmp3 does not use any protection on their songs. You basically are just paying for the bandwidth cost. The site is definately legal in Russia, and here, it's quasi-legal.
    • justinbaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6you can get quality as high as you want
    • jhowe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10You can get most different formats / bitrates. There's no drm either.
    • Mads, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"quasi-legal"

      lol...is that legal?
  • wastern, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12They have been to court and won. As the law stands now it is legal. This took place over a year ago. Some money does go to the artist, not much, as you don't pay much, but there is still some.

    They use a small loophole in Russian law, they aren't the only one using it, they are just the most well known. The loophole hasn't been closed so they can remain open.

    as was said before, if you want to support the band, go to concerts, buy merchandise, or just donate to them if that is somehow possible
    • PurpleMeteor, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2It is legal... in Russia. And russian laws do not apply outside Russia the same way US laws do not apply in China, sorry.
    • wastern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3there is now law or ruling in america against it. ignorance under the law. its legal enough until someone decided to do something about it

      personally i think the RIAA's tactics are more illegal then any actions taken by ones they are trying to prosecute

      you pay, artists get money. that seems to be what everyone wants. artists don't see a dime either way, its just big business that has been bending everyone over the table for years and stealing your money that will lose a few cents.

      i haven't used the site, but have been watching it for 3 years. while its shady as all hell i think you could argue its legality if need be
  • jhowe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wow, finally... It looks like their going to be releasing a version for winmobile and Java in April. This makes me excited with me being a Linux user.
    • osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2It makes me sad to be an English user.

      Grammar Protection Citation: Improper usage of "their."

      Should be: they're
  • mpeters13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is been publically available for about a week now. Has anyone tried it out??? It's a FAR better upgrade compared to the All of MP3 explorer progrum they were offering befoor.
  • kotatsu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Yeah this is old, I've been using it for a while.

    Decent bit of software, although not a patch on iTMS. (aside from the obvious pricing advantage and lack of DRM)
  • WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Need a Mac version here... Won't anyone think of the Mac users? Some of us still think the iTMS sucks ass...
    • brenthals, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I hear ya, I love Allofmp3, but release a Mac version already.
  • zaxxon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Your credit card details are safe. Payment is processed by Chronopay in Holland (Visa/Mastercard certified) so the number does not go to the Russians. I have never had a problem in over a year of using it. If you think about it, its not in AllOfMP3's interests to allow card fraud, they would be out of business in no time once word got out.
    • kendawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4very good point. i still have a balance left in my account that's running out (i used paypal), but i was afraid to add any more money now because i can only use a credit card. you're right in that if they were into the fraud stuff, the stories would be ALL OVER.
    • danko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Plus, they take Xrost -- one-time use credit card purchased via Paypal.

      No need to dangle your CC# anywhere else.
  • cenz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Alltunes software is also available for some mobile devices:
    Nokia 6600/6620/6630/6670/6680/6681/6682/7610/N70/N90
    Sony Ericsson P900/P910
    Motorola A1000
    Java and WinMobile version will be released in April!

    This means downloading music for their internet music store straight to your mobile phone for very low prices when compared to the cost of cellphone ring tones!
    http://alltunes.com/en-mobile.shtml
  • aurrea, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31. Alltunes is about 2 months old so NO digg.

    2. You can download from allofmp3.com from the US and its legal. (for private use an non distribution). You are importing a product that is legal in Russia and since the sale has been made in Russia via Xrost, etc. then you are in the clear.
  • section31, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Reported Old News, I suggest everyone else do the same.
  • solarchaos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Can anybody point to some resources that make it easy to code the flashy UI that alltunes has? Not the webpage, but the actual application - screenshot here:

    http://elephantstaircase.com/tempimages/alltunesscreen.JPG

    looking for c/c++/c# libraries/resources.... Thanks.
  • StanrickKubley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does this service allow you to download without truncated filenames and meta data (like Allofmp3)?
  • VipeNess, on 10/12/2007, -16/+1THEY ***** RIP MONEY OFF!!! DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO THEM... THE TAKE MONEY FROM YOUR ACCOUNTS!!! IVE HAD MY BANK VERIFY THEY ARE A RUSSIAN BASED WEBSITE...LOST 3,000 FROM THIS COMPANY!! DO NOT ADVERTISE THIS *****!!!
  • poptjaart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Never had a problem with my cards and i have been using them for over two years. My point of view is a bit different... I will buy from them as CD's are 50% more expensive here in South Africa compared to the US. Secondly due to the idiots running the music industry in this country there is no online alternative.


  • RobotCitizen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Goddammit people! The first rule of AllofMP3 is nobody talks about AllofMP3!
    • wastern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5that's the second rule.
    • w0rd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If this is your first night at digg, you have to digg.
  • Marshy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1whats the ***** point, its illegal. if you are going to pirate music, do it the free way, not by handing your credit card over to the russian mafia...
    • kotatsu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Link please to proof about this mafia connection you mentioned.
    • drewh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The point is convenience. I'd rather go to allofmp3 and pay $10 every now and then rather than searching through dying torrents for what I want in the file type/bitrate I need it in.
  • comradevik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i've been using allTunes for 3 weeks now. its so much better then the previous "allofmp3 explorer"

  • RubberbandLN6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Honestly the moral value just does not match up with the economic value of using allofmp3. If I were to buy 30 songs through Itunes or any other legal service, it would cost me $30. On the other hand, if I were to buy 30 songs using allofmp3, it would cost me about $3 or so. To me, my wallet is more important than my ethical sympathy for the artists.
    • Asystole, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ethics isn't even a problem here, at least to me. By buying from iTunes or a similar service (hell, even by buying CDs) you're not supporting the artists at all, you're supporting the corrupt record executives.
    • redivider, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It's really sad that it's come to this. I've been in a band for 11 years now... our latest album is on a non-RIAA independent label. Our music is available worldwide on all the major digital music stores. When people buy our CDs or download our music through these services, we *do* make money. Quite a bit actually. And there are a lot of other artists in our situation.

      All this misinformation about how no artists ever make money from CD sales is ***** and is just an excuse to make people feel better about downloading music for free. There are other ways of supporting artists... merchandise, concerts, donations, etc, but for certain artists, buy a CD is still the best way to go. Newer artists can't afford to tour or start their own merchandise company without making some money first. You can always support the band that comes from your hometown, but in this day and age you can become a fna of a new band from thousands of miles away, with no hope of being able to ever see them live because everyone wants to get their music for free.

      You would be correct in saying that there are a lot of artists who make little to nothing from CD sales. Most of them are on major labels who pay low royalty rates and spend millions in marketing and radio promotion and then force the artist to pay back everything, only using the amount they get from royalties. Needless to say the only way to make money in this situation is to either sell millions of albums or somehow convince the label to not spend millions of dollars up front.

      This is obviously a bad position to be in, and I can understand why people don't want to give their money to RIAA-affiliated labels. But there are a lot of artists who are in a much better situation but are being hurt by the fact that everyone seems to think that buying CDs is pointless in every case.

      Before you decide to buy from allofMP3 or download stuff for free, do a little homework and make sure you're not screwing over an artist who you would be supporting by actually paying for the music.

    • ozydingo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.riaaradar.com/ I believe is a good tool for doing this. I don't really know the accuracy of their listings, but it's probably at least a good starting point and a quick check to see if you'd be supporting the RIAA or affiliates when purchasing an album.
  • caudron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I read comments saying essentially, "Sure it's legal in Russia, but it's not legal or only quasi-legal in the US".

    I want to clarify something. It is 100% legal in the US. We have no extant law that directly covers these sorts of sales and no case law that addresses the issue. Until either Congress changes extant laws to directly address the AllOfMP3 business model or until a judge somewhere in the US decided to extend an existing law to cover said business model, it is most certainly quite legal.

    Look at it differently. They aren't hiding. This isn't some hax0r super-secret. It's an open business actively soliciting for American customers. The RIAA knows about them, and has even looked into the business model for a way to attack it. They've complained to the US government and to the Russian government. But ask yourself why the RIAA hasn't sued 1 single AllOfMP3 customer or AllOfMP3 themselves. Why? Because THEY DO NOT HAVE AN ANGLE OF ATTACK.

    Quasi legal? Illegal? Both those would be an RIAA wet dream. No, the reality is that until the laws are changed, it's perfectly legal and if the RIAA were to attack the company, they'd end up both losing and drawing attention to the company to boot. Those are two things they do not want.

    Tom Caudron
    http://tom.digitalelite.com
  • dylan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been using allTunes for a few weeks now and I love it. It's faster than actually browsing the AllOfMP3 website itself as the entire catalogue is downloaded to your computer so searches are lightning fast. It also find my downloads with the program are a lot faster than through my browser. Great software.

    As for the people saying why would you use this service, I do so because I know I can download music at the quality I can select myself and I know it is high quality and real, unlike the fakes and poor quality encodings you can see on P2P nowadays.
  • topnotchnet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4https://www.greendotonline.com/AcctMgmt/Content/Common/AddFunds/RetailLocator.aspx?siteid=mymccard

    if your really concerned about credit card purchases head to walgreens,cvs,rite aid they sell prepaid credit cards for that sort of thing

    & lol "gateway to hell"
    if theres hell below we all gonna go and i doubt it will be for downloading music
    it'll be for being living the american way - selfish, corrupt, & greedy

    • aspirinetu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2best comment so far
      specially the burning in hell part
  • verres, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4since this is a reason of debate for so many people, here we go again:

    1.) AllOfMp3 is legal in Russia - they are "exploiting" a glitch in the local copyright law - a passage from a long time ago that specifies a fixed amount of cash (laughably low by western standards) has to be paid for "public grammophone playing", and they got the idea that what they do is similar in concept through in a Russian court.

    2.) In Russia, a new, legal, shop-bought music cd costs 2-3 Euros (Convert that to the currency of your choice, I can't be arsed), so for Russians, they are not all that cheap, but for everyone living in the west, it's only a tiny percentage of what one would pay here.

    3.) I've been a customer with AllOfMp3 for over a year now, filled my account with about 70 Euros via credit card, and never had even a hint of a problem - all payments were processed in seconds, appeared clearly on my bill, and there was never a "mystery amount" on my cc statement anywhere.

    About the only downside I can find is that many songs are not ID3-tagged correctly.
  • Midnightrambler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Is this new? I've been using their alltunes progam for a few weeks.
  • spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For those interested, I spent $5 at AllofMP3 a couple of years ago and got a lot of bang for my buck. I got 3.5 albums plus some singles for those few dollars, plus it let me choose from a wide variety of formats and bitrates. The directories were poorly organized but I still found all kinds of great stuff. I was very happy with my AllofMP3 experience. And no DRM!
  • pseudojd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2they take paypal through xrost.com.
  • BritOverseas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is it just me or is it "Down for maintenace" anyway.

    Has been for 2 days now....
  • V1ncent, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I do believe there has been several reports that a random # of customers have had non-approved charges appear from sites like allofmp3.com and that some digging by people such as reported by Patrick Norton on DL.TV they do not pay into that fund to support artists by making the payments they're supposed to.
  • MichaelDaley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2When did this story become about the RIAA or Red Scare credit card scams? I have been using the new alltunes program all day and it is a significant improvement over the already great allofmp3 software. These guys have great programmers, reminds me of the Russians in my computer graphics class in high school who made a 3dsMax model of a tank which was so detailed it included nuts and bolts.

    As much as I hate to deviate from the alltunes topic, the third party credit card company used by Allofmp3 isn't even based in Russia, it's in the Netherlands and uses every level of security. All of this stolen credit card BS is just left over mistrust generated by years of anti-soviet union media and cold war mentalities.
  • djdeth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Alltunes is old news.
  • Vorex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1this has been out for months, kthx!
  • geekee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1allofmp3.com is not quasi-legal it's illegal in most countries and unethical. They sell copies of songs without the consent of the copyright holder. And claiming going to concerts clears your conscience is no excuse either. You think a software company could run if you only paid the programmers? That's the basic attitude of people here. Just pay the artists and let everyone else in the music industry starve.
  • MrNolan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Does anyone else have the problem with only getting minute and a half previews of songs even after being logged in?

    I've read that people are able to get full previews of entire albums. (Just at a low bit rate) I’m logged into my account and have money in my balance but still only get 90 seconds of any song. Is this the case for anyone else?
    • nilclop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, I just figured out why this happens. To be able to listen to the full preview your account must have had $50 total added to it (you don't need to keep that much money in it, but the money you have added to it in the past must equal at least $50).

      Hope this helps.
    • MrNolan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thanks. I never would have figured that one out. I haven't used the site quite that much yet but I'm getting close. At least now I know I have that to look forward to at $50. (As long as I can overlook the fact that it's a feature that I had access to and they took it away from me.)
    • nilclop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hear ya man, I never had a problem with it, but some friends of mine did. Allofmp3 never really announced that they would be taking away the full preview for most users, and the only way I found out they did it was be emailing the company and asking. In my opinion though, the full preview is worth just putting 50 bucks in your account (as long as you know you'll use it eventually).
  • nuxx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1actually, I love AllOfMP3. unfortunately, since I don't have a credit card, I can't use it anymore...ah well...back to OpenFT and Torrent sites...
  • b0b0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1So, what is the difference between this and Allofmp3 Explorer? Is this just a relaunch with a more competitive name?
  • dpkp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This is simply untrue. It is admittedly very hard for the RIAA or other copyright holders to enforce their rights, but that doesn't mean that those rights don't exist. There may be a strong argument that this service is legal in Russia (although I think its clearly a violation of the Berne Convention and other international treaties), but those of us in the United States are bound by US law, not Russian law. And downloading an infringing work is most certainly illegal here.

    First, it is true that no one in the US has been sued (yet), but it is naive to think that this is because it is a legal activity. Its much more likely that the RIAA has no way of figuring out who is using AllofMP3.com without persuading an ISP to spy on its users. I doubt many ISPs would agree to this. Nonetheless, not being able to find who to prosecute and not being allowed to prosecute are two totally different things.

    Second, the importation argument simply misunderstands copyright law, and more specifically what constitutes a "copy or phonorecord." These are tangible objects, CD's, records, books - lawyers call this "fixed in a tangible medium." Downloading is not importation of a fixed work. Rather, it is the creation of a copy of a work on your harddrive. This is quite simply copyright infringement.

    Moreover, the "loophole" that allows Russian companies to run this business is based on the right to "broadcast" which does not include distribution of tangible copies or phonorecords. The importation is more akin to asking AllOfMP3.com to burn you a CD and mail it to you. But under the Russian "loophole," they are not allowed to.
  • tdamore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wasn't there something on the front page like 2 or 3 days ago about these russian mp3 sites just being a way to collect credit card numbers?
  • tdamore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Here it is:

    http://www.digg.com/music/Russian_MP3_download_sites_..._not_so_cheap_after_all_
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