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- jaygeeze, on 11/29/2008, -2/+21With Google being the go-to for a majority of the people who search and view data, these guys have a large influence on what we do (and don't) see.
- PaulOwen, on 11/30/2008, -0/+2It sounds to me as if these legal eagles are overemployed.
Is it really necessary to spend your working day viewing then getting 57 uploaded videos translated from Turkish to English so that you can decide if they violate laws in Turkey?
This work should be handed back to an outsourced legal agency on a retainer, never brought in house.
- PaulOwen, on 11/30/2008, -0/+2It sounds to me as if these legal eagles are overemployed.
- lust, on 11/29/2008, -1/+10Yahoo was in trouble by congress for policing Chinese Internet. With the rate Google is going, It looks like they will be next in Congress' firing squad.
- RonaldReaganGOP, on 11/29/2008, -7/+22Digg has "Gatekeepers" too MrBabyMan is one of them!
Digg and Top users influence what we do (and don't) see. - ninjagames, on 11/29/2008, -0/+12I think as long there is no porn, death threats, or murders on youtube it's fine.
- eminn3m, on 11/30/2008, -0/+15TPB needs to start their own search engine/video hosting site.
- whoreable, on 11/30/2008, -0/+3I dunno why, but I have always been partial to isohunt.
- eminn3m, on 11/30/2008, -0/+7I am to but TPB represents more than just a tracker. It fights for free speech and is incredibly vocal about protecting the liberties of it's users.
- whoreable, on 11/30/2008, -0/+3I dunno why, but I have always been partial to isohunt.
- s0m31john, on 11/30/2008, -0/+25I am the Keymaster. Are you the Gatekeeper?
- iJessicaRabbit, on 11/30/2008, -0/+4Yes. Actually I'm a friend of his, he asked me to meet him here.
- GhostM, on 11/30/2008, -0/+4No this is the airport, may I please see your passport.
- fuzzybeard, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1Zuuuuulllllllll...
- Roryking, on 11/30/2008, -11/+3I'll be the first to say it - Turkey sucks. I hope your ***** country either sinks in to the ocean or you have some sort of peaceful revolution and your current leaders (who probably ARE gay) are forced to work on pig farms to survive.
- ZincSaucier, on 11/30/2008, -0/+3why not turkey farms
- zaferk, on 11/30/2008, -0/+4you must be greek. enjoy having lost istanbul.
- mrjigglyfly, on 11/30/2008, -1/+1Looks like you were also the last to say it.
- ZincSaucier, on 11/30/2008, -0/+3the answer to the question in the description is NO. it's a lame question.
we have free speech because our forefathers thought the people should decide what is or isn't acceptable and deal with it by their own means.
google is not the government. google is a private company.
if you want to worry about free speech worry about the FCC - azureskies88, on 11/30/2008, -2/+16There is no right to free speech on YouTube, nor should there be. Google has every right to determine what does and what does not appear on their website, which is fully their private property. To even suggest there should be unregulated free speech on YouTube is ridiculous, and in itself would be a serious rights infringement.
- spyd3rweb, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1Why would you want to deny free speech if you yourself believe in free speech?
- azureskies88, on 11/30/2008, -0/+2People retain the right to deny free speech in the private realm for the same exact reasons they protect the right to free speech in the public realm: protection from the infringement of rights.
- spyd3rweb, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1Why would you want to deny free speech if you yourself believe in free speech?
- cheesejaguar, on 11/30/2008, -1/+11As far as I'm concerned, Google is a private company and can do whatever they want on their own website to restrict freedom of speech.
- fjpoblam, on 11/30/2008, -0/+0Except that, Google is far more than a "website"...it is also a *service* or *group* of services or actually as it has been called, the Google Operating System for "cloud computing". Much and many depend upon the ability of Google to search the world's information bases; Firefox comes with Google built-in, and other browsers have it built-in by default, with users required to remove it by some concerted and skilled effort. It is not *purely* a matter of choice to avoid Google use.
- miket, on 11/30/2008, -0/+0"It is not *purely* a matter of choice to avoid Google use."
Yeah, because its pretty damned difficult do click on the little dropdown and select Y instead. Hell even adding search engines is easy too!
- miket, on 11/30/2008, -0/+0"It is not *purely* a matter of choice to avoid Google use."
- fjpoblam, on 11/30/2008, -0/+0Except that, Google is far more than a "website"...it is also a *service* or *group* of services or actually as it has been called, the Google Operating System for "cloud computing". Much and many depend upon the ability of Google to search the world's information bases; Firefox comes with Google built-in, and other browsers have it built-in by default, with users required to remove it by some concerted and skilled effort. It is not *purely* a matter of choice to avoid Google use.
- whoreable, on 11/30/2008, -3/+5Free speech is an American idea. The internet is world wide. We shouldn't criticize what other cultures think is inappropriate no matter how retarded it is.
- soomprimal, on 11/30/2008, -0/+7Sure we can criticize it- that's what free speech is for! As long as our rights aren't being violated, tolerance is the key.
- whoreable, on 11/30/2008, -1/+1The point is, you can't apply American laws and ideas to the internet and expect the rest of the world to accept it.
- soomprimal, on 11/30/2008, -0/+7Sure we can criticize it- that's what free speech is for! As long as our rights aren't being violated, tolerance is the key.
- podgey22, on 11/30/2008, -1/+3Can they limit free speech? No.
Google services are owned and maintained by a company. You live on their services by their rules. A freedom of speech does not carry into private places. You have no rights to make them accept certain content.
Anything is game though. If you can find an ISP (again non-public companies) to host your brand of hate, you can show anyone who wants to watch. And if you can't, well, thanks for playing. Here's what you could have won... - shadowspawn, on 11/30/2008, -2/+4Free speech on youtube? That's like copyright on torrent networks.
They just don't go together, and we know this. You go to youtube to watch someone get their balls punched out on a 10 second skateboard clip. You go to a torrent site to get anything worth watching that *isn't* someone getting their balls punched out on a 10 second skateboard clip.
Well, you can watch a ron paul vid or a daily show clip that doesn't have "buffering...." forever within a few minutes on youtube before viacom knocks it off, anyhow.
People do NOT upload to youtube anymore unless its stenographic video crap or tweens who discovered their parent's video stuff nowadays. Youtube jumped the shark some time ago. The stockholders just haven't watched the clip on youtube realizing this yet. - Snooker1985, on 11/30/2008, -0/+2sure they can negotiate with Turkey.. but they can't remove those goddamn rickroll videos...
- silfiriel, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1Nicole Wong is hot!
- silfiriel, on 11/30/2008, -1/+2BTW if they haven't, they should remove the videos about Ataturk, he is like a national symbol even more then a flag or a national anthem, and considering that Greeks made those videos who are always in some kind of a dispute with their neighbours it's obvious that it's actually hate/political speech plus insulting/racist, discriminating and war inflaming.
- Myztry, on 11/30/2008, -1/+4"Google refused, arguing that one nation’s government shouldn’t be able to set the limits of speech for Internet users worldwide."
One countries patent registry can determine intellectual ownership, so why not? The United States represents 4.46% of the global population.
Far behind China's 19.84% and India's 16.96%, let alone 'the rest of world' which represents 95.54% of the overall population.
It's wrong that the United States should determine anything for the other 95.54% of people.- downneck, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1the united states' patent registry determines ownership for intellectual property IN THE UNITED STATES. you still have to patent ideas in other countries in order to have your intellectual property protected in that country.
ugh, learn how the law works before you make idiotic statements like that- Myztry, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1Leveraged agreements (Trade agreements, etc) are overlaying US law over that of other countries.
It is not as simple as equivalent laws existing.
We are all being slowly assimilated by the powerful minority of the New World Order.
- Myztry, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1Leveraged agreements (Trade agreements, etc) are overlaying US law over that of other countries.
- downneck, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1the united states' patent registry determines ownership for intellectual property IN THE UNITED STATES. you still have to patent ideas in other countries in order to have your intellectual property protected in that country.
- UIS4821, on 11/30/2008, -1/+2People from Turkey are moody aren't they?
- fjpoblam, on 11/30/2008, -1/+0I agree with Tommy Smothers: "The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen."
- saltyjustice, on 11/30/2008, -0/+2buried for babyman spam
- Darkyuubi, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1Good but long read.
Don't be evil. Its hard work sometimes. - defaultaccount, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1I'm sure if Google was up to it, they could take down those repressive governments. Easy.
- HappyMonk, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1the internet belongs to the people of this world not to a select few.
- 666isMONEY, on 12/01/2008, -0/+0Absolutely disgusted with flickr 4 deleting my account
13 ***** (sic) outlaw discussing the forensics & logistics of the Holocaust
Thought criminals
Drink ur flouride and die
Welcome The Brave New World
Hope ur kids don't curse U
"First they came" 4 the Holocaust deniers - cr8nkenstein, on 12/01/2008, -2/+1Buried for the creepy ass BabyMan...
- downneck, on 12/01/2008, -0/+1ITA and ITT: peoply grossly misinterpreting the idea of free speech
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