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How One Spammer Got BILLIONS of Pages into Google in 3 Weeks
merged.ca — One Romanian company has taken spamming Google to new heights. Learn how they got over 7 billion spam-filled pages into Google in under 1 month.
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- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -8/+71The awesome thing is how Google ignores this problem and continues serving Adsense ads on the sites. Not only are they indexing this guy's billions of spam pages but they are paying him for it.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -3/+57everyone report them please:
http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html - Takteek, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Is everyone looking at the eiqz2q.org pages or something? They are all really slow for me.... Maybe we can kill the spammer with the digg effect. :)
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11He already suffers from his own DIGG effect. Ask any site with an Alexa ranking under 2,000... it is hundreds of pageviews every second and he is running them with PHP. I doubt his servers can keep up with the amount of traffic the billions of listings are generating. I seriously doubt he expected to be this successful.
- ajcannon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32shakamunya, you do realize that digg is a lamp site also, don't you? digg is well under 2000 on Alexa and it's doing just fine with php/mysql/apacha/linux
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I work for a site similar in traffic numbers that is also a LAMP site, so no doubt-- PHP can handle it if properly prepared. But if you look at the spike on Alexa for his domains, it looks like a cliff. I doubt he planned to be this successful. I think his "unique page generator" was worked too well; I don't think you'd want this kind of attention as an MFA spammer.
If you grow your hardware into this sort of traffic situation, no problem... but I'm sure his site is slow because he is succesful beyond imagination. It is tough to handle that sort of traffic with only a few days to plan. - apotropaic, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2digg is number 132 on alexa.
- Corvillus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes, Digg does use PHP, and a lot of sites that handle high loads do, but they typically aren't serving every single request with PHP (or at least not with a bunch of database queries). Usually, some sort of system to cache requests as static HTML is used to save CPU time. This spam site was obviously not really designed to scale well, just a half assed deal to get as many ad impressions as possible.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -3/+57everyone report them please:
- canespa, on 10/12/2007, -5/+47Totally amazing ... Google decides to deindex legitimate sites and index sites like this wtf?
- maldives, on 10/12/2007, -24/+12Spammers get priority in googles mind.
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17When you have a lot of ad inventory to sell I guess you can't turn down this many page views. I hope Adwords advertisers notice this sort of thing and turn off content-site delivery.
- Nitrodist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15"Spammers get priority in googles mind."
Google CFO: Fraud a big threat
http://digg.com/technology/Google_CFO:_Fraud_a_big_threat_
submitted by DanTekGeek 561 days ago
Apparently so.
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Mirror: http://www.duggmirror.com/technology/How_One_Spammer_Got_BILLIONS_of_Pages_into_Google_in_3_Weeks/
- Remadot, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Great link about Yahoo midset shakamunya. Its exactly what I need to disregard ads.
http://www.digg.com/technology/Google_targets_GPS_in-car_personalized_advertising
- Remadot, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Great link about Yahoo midset shakamunya. Its exactly what I need to disregard ads.
- msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32Great article. I almost want to do this myself.
- Lewie, on 10/12/2007, -21/+7Need help? :D
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -15/+19If there is enough interest, I'll write a script to mimic his site and release it for free. It would be fun to see how much crap we could stuff into Google at once.
- projectducky, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12Don't sit around on your hands and do nothing about this!
Report spam at http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html - ionut, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Who told you the company is Romanian?
Some WHOIS facts:
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=t1ps2see.com&type=domain
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=eiqz2q.org&type=domain- radu79, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Yeah, really.
We might be responsible for various CC fraud and other nasty things, but my countrymen ar not behind this :) - AlexApetrei, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4True that, Romanians got nothing on seo , be it spam or otherwise.
- canespa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10ITS ROMANIAN >>> ENJOY!!!!
Registration Service Provided By: INTERNET MEDIA SRL
Contact: 373.69105310
Domain Name: T1PS2SEE.COM
Registrant:
Tips 2 see SRL
Brausova Elena ()
Grenoblea 10
Iasi
,2983
RO
Tel. 40.98198289
Creation Date: 25-May-2006
Expiration Date: 25-May-2007
Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.t1ps2see.com
ns.t1ps2see.com
Administrative Contact:
Tips 2 see SRL
Brausova Elena ()
Grenoblea 10
Iasi
,2983
RO
Tel. 40.98198289
Technical Contact:
Tips 2 see SRL
Brausova Elena ()
Grenoblea 10
Iasi
,2983
RO
Tel. 40.98198289
Billing Contact:
Tips 2 see SRL
Brausova Elena ()
Grenoblea 10
Iasi
,2983
RO
Tel. 40.98198289
Status:ACTIVE
by these terms. - radu79, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1How exactly did you get that info?
- kalphegor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3What the WTF?
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:t1ps2see.com - ocram, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"How exactly did you get that info?"
Go to http://www.publicdomainregistry.com/whois/ and look up the domain t1ps2see.com - radu79, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Oh well, I guess I was wrong :/
- MihaiM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm working really hard to make money with AdSense from my sites. I keep expanding, I pay people for content, etc.
I hate to see someone doing this scam
- radu79, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Yeah, really.
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9You're right, my apologies to Romania. Alexa says it is from Argentina:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main?q=eiqz2q.org&url=eiqz2q.org- ralfyx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They are probably only hosting it there, it would be stupid to host it in Romania anyway. The registrant is from Romania.
- Anchoret, on 10/12/2007, -11/+9Search engines are broken. It's as simple as that. They are there to serve commercial interests and crooks, period -- and you can include the engine owners in whichever category you wish; I favor the latter.
I was doing experiments to prove this a few weeks ago, and discovered that it was almost impossible to get basic legitimate research results that didn't include a _minimum_ of 97% spam/e-tail.- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Have you tried Yahoo!'s Mindset search? It allows you to vary the results with a slider between Commercial and Informational webpages:
http://mindset.research.yahoo.com/search.php?p=shakespeare - shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9remadot:>>Great link about Yahoo midset shakamunya. Its exactly what I need to disregard ads.
As an affiliate marketer, I hate it.. but as a web user I think it is brilliant and I wonder why it hasn't caught on. - antihexe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Wow, That is really good.. I love it.
- dccunningham, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yes you are right. Search engines are there to make money through their ads. Always making their ad program better NOT the search results. Play with the people mind that they are doing something by making it a mess every other month on the listings. So people think they are doing something.
This is the exact reason why these guys claim to have started http://www.oozm.com. Its like Digg. Atleast the model is promissing.
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Have you tried Yahoo!'s Mindset search? It allows you to vary the results with a slider between Commercial and Informational webpages:
- ech0, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3this isn't fraud by the way. the users are targeted. so advertisers are happy. competing publishers are the ones who are cheated. google wins (they get money from this), advertisers win (so do they).
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8While not fraud, you must admit these sites are "Made For Adsense" which is against the T&C.
- Kickboy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5While it's true he managed to get alot of pages indexed, that doesn't mean those pages have a high search ranking. The likely hood that any of the pages on the site would show up in even the first 3 pages of a standard google search is close to zero. The only way you would notice the pages inside the index is if you do a whole-site search as the one shown in the article.
And, again, people need to stop targeting all search engine problems to Google. I am willing to bet a big sum of money that both Yahoo and MSN are also subject to this same problem. This is hardly unique to Google in any way.- ech0, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7wrong, actually yahoo and msn handle this issue better, take a look at the results yourself. stop riding the google bandwagon, hmmkthanks.
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Then why does he have Alexa rankings of under 2000 and under 7000 after only 3 weeks? TRAFFIC and lots of it. It doesn't matter if the phrases are obscure or he is on page 2, if you have enough of those rankings, you will have a lot of pageviews.
- mindlessxd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Wrong. http://www.google.com/search?q=war+on+terror+pro+cons
And warez sites have been using this sub-domain cheating method for years. - shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The subdomains haven't worked on Google in 2 or 3 years, though. Their recent infrastructure change to "BigDaddy" has brought the problem back in a big way to the Google index.
- nudiepix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yahoo has the same problem:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=site%3Aeiqz2q.org&fr=FP-tab-web-t400&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8
MSN isn't as bad:
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=site%3Aeiqz2q.org&Form=MSNH
- khag7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6so, somoene smart who would probably know: how much money is this guy making from this?
- NoMoreNicksLeft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11At a guess? Even with clickthrough rates of 1/10th percent, the guy would have to be raking it in. Especially with some of the high-paying keywords (supposedly lawyeresque keywords can be $20 each).
I would guess no less than thousands each day, maybe many many times that.
- NoMoreNicksLeft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11At a guess? Even with clickthrough rates of 1/10th percent, the guy would have to be raking it in. Especially with some of the high-paying keywords (supposedly lawyeresque keywords can be $20 each).
- dpower, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9This really sucks and makes me quite annoyed! No point getting mad at Google- what these people are doing to the internet should be a crime. I'm sick to death of these goddamn spam sites. BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14No point in getting mad at Google?
Why not? Google lets ***** like this proliferate, but shuts out honest sites. Sites like this only exist because Google is okay with them.
Google hasn't been true to it's motto in years.
- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14No point in getting mad at Google?
- Chongo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1So can someone estimate how much money this would of made them?
- ech0, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2a *****
- ylikone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0$0 ... you really think google is going to be sending them any checks?
- tek1024, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6There's a discussion about this at the DigitalPoint Forums, too, a friend pointed out to me earlier today:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=97090- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Thanks, that was the original source. I was going to post that to DIGG originally but the URL is banned so I blogged it.
- theqball, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think it's funny that they guy at digital point forums used to be one himself. He would change the page names of every page on his site every month, and point all of the traffic looking for those pages at his amazon affiliate link. I wonder if he is just researching how to do it himself.
- vvaduva, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Ahh...I am so proud to be a Romanian! :)
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5Sorry, see above-- it turned out to be Argentinian!
- MihaiM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm not proud at all...
- Wackos, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4Rumor has it, Google sucks. Oh, wait..it's not a rumor. It's a fact!!!!
- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Rumor also has it that your grammar sucks.
- Twelve-60, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3idiot.
- Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2moron
- FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I bet these guys aren't limiting themselves to spamming. I'm sure there is plenty of click fraud going on as well.
- ech0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10why would they do click fraud when they are getting legit users?
- FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Greed.
- ogletree, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3This is very easy to do. You just buy some site that has lots of backlinks stick a ton of pages on it with adsense. It gets indexed you make a bunch of money and within a month or 2 you get banned and keep making money in MSN and Yahoo.
- bigdaddyforums, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well it leads to Dating adverts which are pretty good CPC, so this guy is probably making a good couple of hundred k per day. Check the alexa rankings, he's reaching like 800million people :P
- RoboPimp3000, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1That's not 800 million, that's 800 PER million. In other words, for every million net users at any given time, 800 are on that site.
- anchorman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6In addition to spamming google, they also got a news post on the front page of one of the most popular technology news sites, digg.com. So now they got plenty of exposure too!
- mookieXL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Exposure to kind of users that never click spam links. At least i hope so.
- bigdaddyforums, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Pretty sure it's these guys that are responsible:
http://spamhuntress.com/wiki/Evgheni_Tariuc
Check the whois info on the domain that everything redirect to.- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Good catch; starnet.md appears all over the whois info of these current domains.
- bobinator, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0It seems that the only effective way to get the results that you want would be to use a hand-picked search engine such as http://www.dmoz.org/.
- derosion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you're searching for a service, sure, DMOZ all the way. What if you're searching for "date formatting" +php, for example?
- jasco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13my friend does this, he make about $600 - $1000 a day on adsense. So there is def motive for this, I've been tempted to try myself
- ylikone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Does google actually PAY him without getting the least bit suspicious? I thought google was very strict with watching their payouts? Many of these sites probably get lots of hits and accumulate huge check amounts from google, but does google actually pay?
- rfontaine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You are wasting your time reporting this guy. Googsy caused the problem by unleashing adsense to the masses.
Someone needs to come up with a search engine that gives a penalty to sites that use adsense. I have heard several people say they are miffed by all the made-for-adsense rubbish they have to wade through when doing a search for just about anything. - harley999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have been running into these lame sites all day searching for dog breed information, do a search for: dalmation bull terrier mix http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dalmation+bull+terrier+mix fake site redirects to one of those bastards.
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Excellent example of one of their sites ranking #1 for a feasible, common keyphrase. I'm surprised they only had 1 ranking in the top 10; most others they have multiples.
- canespa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I'm starting to suspect that these guys are hitting billions and billions of pages. Here's a complete list of their sites involved. If each site has 1 billion pages .. do the math! man o man!!
1. 05s9.info 0 listings 0 listings
2. 16jk.info 0 listings 0 listings
3. 1er6.info 0 listings 0 listings
4. 207f.info 0 listings 0 listings
5. 2cxa.info 0 listings 0 listings
6. 37rs4.info 0 listings 0 listings
7. 7r31.info 0 listings 0 listings
8. d7n0s.info 0 listings 0 listings
9. eiqz2q.org 0 listings 0 listings
10. ffd7.info 0 listings 0 listings
11. gsw0.info 0 listings 0 listings
12. h13lu.info 0 listings 0 listings
13. hdtl0k.org 0 listings 0 listings
14. ivmcqo.org 0 listings 0 listings
15. j153.info 0 listings 0 listings
16. mcl17.info 0 listings 0 listings
17. mik8.info 0 listings 0 listings
18. mro196.org 0 listings 0 listings
19. n774.info 0 listings 0 listings
20. odyzfe.org 0 listings 0 listings
21. rfni70.org 0 listings 0 listings
22. s358v.info 0 listings 0 listings
1. cmmdrs.org 0 listings 0 listings
2. etlz8o.org 0 listings 0 listings
3. h1ban1.info 0 listings 0 listings
4. jkthy0.org 0 listings 0 listings
5. ovu22c.org 0 listings 0 listings
6. qge6f7.org 0 listings 0 listings
7. rbynh6.org 0 listings 0 listings
8. t1ps2see.org 0 listings 0 listings
9. tuup2s.org 0 listings 0 listings
10. wxfuu3.org 0 listings 0 listings
11. ywt8g1.org 0 listings 0 listings
12. cgq7wm.org 0 listings 0 listings
13. geku8h.org 0 listings 0 listings
14. viwhha.org 0 listings 0 listings
15. wmy1om.org 0 listings 0 listings
16. wwn8hg.org 0 listings 0 listings
17. azz5pq.org 0 listings 0 listings - techlh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7and who cares about getting banned? simply copy everything to another domain and start over.
- nudiepix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Where are the Adsense ads, btw, I clicked the top couple results and don't see any...
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7He has changed the site since this was posted. Most of the domains now seem to be redirecting to the main t1ps2see.com.
This is getting even better.... so now when you get redirected to that domain, you get a list of generic looking results. Click on any of the results and you're redirected to yet more crappy sites, this time showing Yahoo! Publisher Network ads instead of Adsense! He is milking both of them.
- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7He has changed the site since this was posted. Most of the domains now seem to be redirecting to the main t1ps2see.com.
- hackaroxp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7OMG! Look at the graphic. http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=3m&size=medium&compare_sites=&y=r&url=eiqz2q.org#top
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11It's a bit sad how Google never seem to update their web search engine and algorithms, at least given the search results you get nowadays. From being rare, their results seem to get increasingly saturated with spam and link farms, so whatever much/little Google is doing now to counter it, spammers keep getting further ahead. I think it has got to the level they need to start taking care of these things for real by improving their algorithms or trying to come up with other more innovative counters, instead of developing new services sometimes not even search related.
- jkrebs1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I was going to post a comment, but you nailed it right there bro.
- trialofmiles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Jugalator, you're right and you're wrong.
You're wrong because Google is always updating their search algorithm to combat spam. Their last update was code named Big Daddy. You can read about it at Matt Cutts blog (he works for Google) http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/bigdaddy/
But even though you're wrong about them never updating their search algorithm, at the same time you're right because in the end they haven't even come close to stopping spammers.
- hackaroxp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Google is not anymore a search engine!! Get it?
- ChuckRoastHere, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's the search engine of search engines
- Avalontor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@ChuckRoastHere - actually meta search engines like Metacrawler or Dogpile are search engines of search engines not Google.
- topten, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Crying will do you no good at all.Get busy and make your own sites rather than crying when someone kicks your collective butts!
- kalphegor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I wish Google put a limit for indexed web pages.
For example:
PageRank 1: 100 indexed pages
PageRank 3: 1,000 indexed pages
PageRank 5: 5,000 indexed pages
PageRank 7: 10,000 indexed pages
PageRank 8: 100,000 indexed pages
PageRank 9-10: only for trusted domains - wlloydda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5WTF? Everything I search for on Google comes up with 4-5 of his sites on the first page!
Google has to ban his ass quick or there won't be any eyeballs let alone clicks.
People are searching for information, NOT ads.- ylikone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What are you looking up? What search words? I can't get them to come up at all!
- modpancake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I am also getting hits for just about anything I search for...
"search carrot" - he's the number one result, and the ninth.
"green beans trash" - he's third down.
"utensils hogwash" - he's eighth down.
Out of the five random searches I performed, he showed up in these three. Wow. - shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Try anything involving food or a recipe...
"best roast pork sirloin"
"steak cooking perfectly"
"pizza sauce recipe" (go a page or two down, he has them all)
http://www.google.com/search?q=pizza%20sauce%20recipe&start=30
- Wackos, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1The reason they have so many pages indexed is because they are sub-domains and Google looks at each of them as a different web page.
- goggleBOX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Google needs to treat subdomains as possiable spam. Very few domains have more than 100 sub domains. Besides free hosting what sites need more than 100 sub domains? reply with examples guys. Those that do, didn't suddenly have 10,000 over night. Also flags should start waving when EVERY sub domain has adsense on it.
- ChrisGranger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sites that give each user his or her own subdomain aren't all that uncommon... With deviantART as an example, username.deviantart.com, there are roughly a million subdomains.
- AshyRaccoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1LiveJournal also gives each user a subdomain of their username.
- diggmanic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Google has allowed them to be included in the index for advertising purpose. The more people click on that site the more Google makes.
- goggleBOX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I don't think Google want to sell ads like this. I already turn off listing of my ads on adsense when I'm using adwords, why would Google want to reenforce this type of reaction? People clicking these ads will still click ads on other sites if these spam sites didn't exsist. It's not as if everyone goes "wow a spam site, better spend a couple of hours clicking advertising links!". They click the ads cause they are looking for informaiton better found without spammers. If Google gets rid of spamers, search is better, more people use search, more income for Google.
- randomracoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Do you think they googled "How to spam google" to find the script?
- Shipley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4well that tears it, every category on my blog is getting a subdomain now. I'm not making 5 billion, but if I can make a dozen or so and make enough to cover my internet bill, I'll be a happy jackass.
- Percept, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Having millions/billions of these subdomains is the whole point why it's working. Your 12 subdomains have to compete with the rest of the net because you'll use common keywords for them. This guy is targetting millions/billions of keyPHRASES which are much easyer to rank for because there can't be a 'better' webpage for each of these keyphrases..
- astral16, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"cream puff recipe" i jumped to the 17th page there he was. ive lost hope in google
- AdamLasnik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hey there,
I'm on the Search Quality Team at Google. We're aware of the situation that's been discussed here.
In particular, I wanted to note a couple of things:
1) Our engineers recently noticed that our site: queries (number of results listed for a search) were showing bizarre results. This has turned out to be tied to a bad data push, and we're fixing this right now.
2) I am *NOT* on the AdSense team, but I'd hope common sense would suggest to fellow Digg'ers that a click on an AdSense ad does not necessarily result in a charge to an advertiser and a credit to a publisher.- trialofmiles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If anyone's wondering what AdamLasnik's talking about with the "site: queries" comment, it has to do with complaints many webmasters have made that Google has been dropping legitimate pages from their index after their last big update.
- AdamLasnik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Not quite, Trialofmiles. Sorry I wasn't clearer. It's about the estimation we give for number of results. e.g., "Results 1 - 100 of about 2,970,000,000 for [search phrase]".
In the case being discussed above, the number in "about [x billion]" is currently incorrect. We haven't indexed anywhere close to as many pages of these sites as is currently suggested. It's a significant results estimation error, thankfully limited in scope but clearly pretty stark when it appears.
(ack, and sorry for not posting this under the proper thread!)- Percept, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Billions might be a bit much but it has to be an incredible amount cause these pages are turning up on a lot of less targeted keyphrases. So please don't say it's just a calculation error because that will hurt more then the spamming itself.
- maddd, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0Bad digg.
The citations say nothing other that Google has indexed a very large site. This is a distortion of BigDaddy - which was an algo update, the most obvious change being that more trust is placed in sub domains of trusted (established) domains, not in sub domains purely because they are sub domains.
I believe this digg is possibly the worst exploitation I have ever seen on digg. This is just a bad manipulation of diggers to digg a spam site. DUMBASSES...- shakamunya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What the hell are you talking about, a bad DIGG? This guy had way more traffic than he could handle already and DIGG isn't linking to his sites. He already shows up in millions of search results; he is not gaining anything from being on DIGG. This is exposing a problem with BigDaddy, not helping the spammer.
- infinium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Google Groups thread on this issue. Some interesting data not on here.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.search-engines/browse_frm/thread/905f2f310b04bafa/e3189e1d6c6bfcdc#e3189e1d6c6bfcdc - JimW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That's quite something!
It is good that Adam and his team is now fixing this but I wonder if there will be any algo change to prevent this, I hope so. Is Matt Cutts still on vacation? :) - zyko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2adsense is working out exactly as google planned -- thousands of people writing content or putting up websites (good or bad) for free or very little money. all so google can milk it for advertising revenue. google has way more leverage for payouts when dealing with desperate people wanting a little extra cash versus a real legit website that can negotiate higher payouts. so spam is better for google because they get a bigger cut.
- Infernostr1ke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The sites appear to have been de-indexed - they aren't coming up when I search now anyway.
- findinforums, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1that's cool. google deindexed some of the sites, but he'll just make more. Besides he says there were only 10K pages, so may be it was just a bug in site: query
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